1. #16661
    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    I think SSB just drains way more power than any SSJ form.

    it might be about better Ki control but it burns a ton of energy, not to mention SSB Vegito > Kefla.
    Well she was also being absolutely wasteful of energy on her little high...instead of focused attacks she was just throwing energy balls or beams in every which direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excellion View Post
    Well she was also being absolutely wasteful of energy on her little high...instead of focused attacks she was just throwing energy balls or beams in every which direction.
    last resort attack I guess.

    my guess is that they defused because of...something but not because the Potara broke.

    you can take off your Potara but you will still be fused.

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    It honestly felt like it was for dramatic effect....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skorpionss View Post
    Nobody cares about the manga as it is completely filler since it isn't made by Toriyama.
    wait seriously? My bad then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiase View Post
    wait seriously? My bad then.
    Eeeeh, that's not exactly true. A lot of people care about the manga and compare it with the anime. The manga itself isn't drawn by Toriyama, but Toriyama does work on the actual story of Super in terms of broad strokes and characters. Other writers and artists work on the story as well to expand it and fill in the details. He's not as involved as he was in his original manga where he did pretty much everything, but he's still involved.

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    plus, Toyotaro and Toei outright change his script to fit their story, like Vegito shouldn't have happen against Zamasu according to Akira's OG script.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    plus, Toyotaro and Toei outright change his script to fit their story., like Vegito shouldn't have happen against Zamasu according to Akira's OG script.
    Editors often make changes for the better. Naruto and Tokyo ghoul would have gone different directions had it not been for the editors input.

    But I’m curious, what was the original script like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiase View Post
    Editors often make changes for the better. Naruto and Tokyo ghoul would have gone different directions had it not been for the editors input.

    But I’m curious, what was the original script like?
    we will never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiase View Post
    Editors often make changes for the better. Naruto and Tokyo ghoul would have gone different directions had it not been for the editors input.

    But I’m curious, what was the original script like?
    that I would also like to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    plus, Toyotaro and Toei outright change his script to fit their story, like Vegito shouldn't have happen against Zamasu according to Akira's OG script.
    where is that information from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rarhyx View Post
    where is that information from?
    Herms twitter.

    recent interview stated that Vegito wasn't supposed to appear and Zamasu wasn't supposed to be that strong.

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    Perhaps, but Toriyama is still more involved in the Anime than in the manga so I consider it a step above when it comes to contradictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    Herms twitter.

    recent interview stated that Vegito wasn't supposed to appear and Zamasu wasn't supposed to be that strong.
    I don't think saying 'wasn't supposed to' is the right way to put that - it makes it sound like Toriyama wanted it one way and was overruled or ignored.

    All we heard was Toriyama's original script did not include Vegito - Vegito showing up was an idea suggested by someone else. But it's not like Vegito was forced in against Toriyama's explicit wishes - he works together with others to develop the story. He has a lot of say in what happens, and isn't shy about putting his foot down for some elements.

    In the original manga, Androids #16-18 and Cell didn't exist, until Toriyama's editor encouraged him to create new villains that looked cooler than #19 and 20. And Cell didn't transform until he was encouraged to create new forms for him. He's not opposed to taking suggestions from others.

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    idk if this has been linked yet, but I loved it.

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    all this talk about vegito, but i never actually liked him.

    gogeta's much cooler. he had more of vegeta's seriousness than vegito.(that's one of the things that GT did wrong imo, making gogeta so silly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rarhyx View Post
    that I would also like to know

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    where is that information from?
    I hope i'm not breaking any rules here

    http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v01/c000/1.html

    This was the pilot to naruto and I am very certain it was changed after the input/feedback from his editor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    all this talk about vegito, but i never actually liked him.

    gogeta's much cooler. he had more of vegeta's seriousness than vegito.(that's one of the things that GT did wrong imo, making gogeta so silly)
    I actually think it is the other way round... Vegito ( Vegeta the lead characteristic) and Gogeta ( Goku the lead characteristic), you can even hear it in their voices. But that is just the way I always looked at it, no proof what so ever.

    Loved the episode, think they handled the first lady ssj's just fine. Also that kai of uni 6 loosing it and Beerus reaction was just lol!! Goku genuinely looked surprised that his attacks isnt more imactful.

    What I cant seem to understand is the fact that so many people could follow the movements of Goku and Kefla during their fight (even Goku vs Jiren). It doesnt make sense at all, they should be way too fast for the lower class fighters to follow, heck I would go so far as to say Vegeta and Toppo should have to really focus on the fight so they dont lose track of the fighters. They could not even follow Gohans movements vs Cell juniors (yes a long time ago) or even vs Cell himself. I could swear that Toppo didnt even follow Goku the first time he attacked Jiren in UI form, but now the people already eliminated follow them.

    Makes sense for the GoD and their angels to follow the movements but not for the rest (Also Zeno and Priest should not have a problem).

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    I think Vegito was so much less serious is because it was a less serious situation. Vegito was so much stronger than Buu it didn't really matter, he could let loose and have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoKs View Post
    I actually think it is the other way round... Vegito ( Vegeta the lead characteristic) and Gogeta ( Goku the lead characteristic), you can even hear it in their voices. But that is just the way I always looked at it, no proof what so ever.
    well, gogeta only ever showed up in movies and games. in the movie about janemba, he's pretty deadly serious about the fight if i'm remembering correctly. then in all the games he's been in, he speaks more aggressively and seriously the whole time while vegito has that wackier tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoKs View Post
    What I cant seem to understand is the fact that so many people could follow the movements of Goku and Kefla during their fight (even Goku vs Jiren). It doesnt make sense at all, they should be way too fast for the lower class fighters to follow, heck I would go so far as to say Vegeta and Toppo should have to really focus on the fight so they dont lose track of the fighters. They could not even follow Gohans movements vs Cell juniors (yes a long time ago) or even vs Cell himself. I could swear that Toppo didnt even follow Goku the first time he attacked Jiren in UI form, but now the people already eliminated follow them.
    plot.

    that's my headcanon.

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