Ragnaros 25H Phase 3 - 1 Meteor

[TyrianFC]

Thought it was obvious enough (/sarcasm)

Just wanted to share stuff we actually used together with some example numbers, didn't want to sell it as our very own special tactic. (@proVoke)

Thanks for the tips. We just saw Legs tonight and still debating whether to try and force a 1-meteor p3 (with hero) or a more comfortable 2-meteor (and hero in p4).

Do you have any public logs, Noctan? (Edit: Here they are http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/113340/ )

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Well outside of the fact that people floundered about and we ended up having 7 people die over the course of the fight, and we didn't actually kill the meteor in the first patch bc people didn't switch to it (not to mention the second patch was on the other side of the map) it was a lot easier. We only moved to like the 3rd or 4th frost patch when the boss died, and dreadflame was basically nonexistent.

Must feel nice to not have the dreadflame-overwhelming pressure lol, thanks for the info

[Noctan]

Thanks for the tips. We just saw Legs tonight and still debating whether to try and force a 1-meteor p3 (with hero) or a more comfortable 2-meteor (and hero in p4).

Do you have any public logs, Noctan? (Edit: Here they are http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/113340/ )

Yeah right, for the pre nerfed 1 Meteor attempts watch the logs from monday (5.9).

This is Phase 3 dps from our this weeks post nerf kill:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=8821&e=8885

[nadrii]

For reference, phase three burn dps for our single meteor push this week is here:

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-qy...=13316&e=13409

To compare, here is vodka's phase three burn also with a single meteor (I wish I had a legendary):

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/xkedz...=14041&e=14130

[TyrianFC]

Thanks for the logs. They're great to look through, especially when we're talking about Phase specifics such as pushing 1 meteor. Saves a lot of time trying to search through logs when you want to know something very specific.

One of the great things about H Rag IMO is, although most people probably see vids before they start trying him, it becomes obvious immediately that "just do it how XXX guild does" is a terrible idea. The first pressing issue is finding out what specifically what will work for you. Our very first phase 2 attempt, of course, was to 'do what paragon does'. You can imagine how well that went. :P And right away we had to figure something else out that'll actually work for us.

I'll throw this out there too: There's a bunch of vids where guilds (2 meteor strat) freeze both Meteors in the same Breadth. P4 effectively becomes similar to a 1 meteor strat in that you get all meteors out of the way in the same timeframe.

However, this takes very precise control and timing. When guilds were learning this phase, did you specifically try to push doing this? It looks to be a pretty individual choice between guilds as to whether to do this. Similar to the choice to really push for a 1-meteor P3 (with hero) or not.

If you had a 2-meteor strat and tried to double-freeze meteors, or opted not to, what were the leading factors in your decision?

[stormborn]

For reference, phase three burn dps for our single meteor push this week is here:

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-qy...=13316&e=13409

To compare, here is vodka's phase three burn also with a single meteor (I wish I had a legendary):

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/xkedz...=14041&e=14130

It's hilarious how we got 1 meteor when we used heroism when no one was even ready for it. herpderp. (lol)

[Deleted]

For reference, phase three burn dps for our single meteor push this week is here:

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-qy...=13316&e=13409

To compare, here is vodka's phase three burn also with a single meteor (I wish I had a legendary):

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/xkedz...=14041&e=14130

Cheers for the logs, will bring it to the table.

[Harry Botter]

Nice waste of power infusion then
But yeah, all common knowledge tips, the waiting for other abilities before pushing into phase you can even see in the paragon video, when they wait for the hammer to cast then dps just before the cast, getting an extra 1% or so off.
Personally we didn't not try to push for 1 meteor, instead saved heroism for phase 4 after both meteors had died. Since the dps requirements dropped so much in phase 3, was pretty comfortable without the heroism. Next to no dreadflame around at the time of the kill as well, was pretty nice.

Way to be a total jerk. This may not be common knowledge to a single player or a raid as a whole who are just starting on Heroic Ragnaros. Some people make me so sick when they cant just let someone give tips out and not say shit like "oh you wasted this and oh thats common knowledge".

But i do thank Noctan for the tips.

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Some Tricks we used to pull off 1 Meteor pre nerf in 10man (hope they can help):

- dmg stop at 40,6% and wait for the next world in flames to pop up , then during the world in flames push ragnaros under 40% (he will finnish his world in flames before he starts the transition), by using this strategy we managed to push rag to 36% before he submerged.
- let your healers kick the 1 Meteor
- Tanks can use the firelands reputation trinkets (mastery + agi/str use) or let them wear as much dps gear as possible (our tanks did around 22k dps in p3)
- healing priests can go disc for extra dps in p3 (our disc. priest did about 10k dps + power infusion)
- as already stated demonology warlocks just rock in p3 (trinkets of choice: moonwell chalice + sorrowsong/necromantik focus/dmc)

+ some luck that ragnaros casts engulfing BEFORE he spawns the 2nd meteor. At least we couldn't get one meteor without these extra 10s

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Bringing this back up top, would like some WoL parses from people that have made this with 1 meteor (25man).
Thanks

[Gnomerterp]

They're not letting me link websites in this forum yet heh - but our latest kill was 1 meteor 25 man. Public logs. US-Windrunner and guild is Temerity.

He did cast WiF before the second meteor though, so that helped.

[cleotaurus]

The mechanic seems a bit weird on whether or not he drops a second meteor. It seems you dont have to push him to 8% before that timer is up but rather something like 11%. If he isn't below that % when the timer is up he drops the meteor immediately right before world in flames, but if you push him below that before the timer is up, he doesn't seem to drop it at all even if your still in p3 for like 5-10 seconds after.

[Aleysia]

Phase 4 technically starts at 10%, so if you push him past that before the 2nd meteor spawns, you're safe. I've heard there's apparently a few seconds of RP starting at the bottom of the stairs leading up to Rag's platform after he passes the 10% mark. I'm not sure what Blizzard was thinking since no one working on H Rag is going to run over to watch that. >_>

[Dracodraco]

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-or1uxlcalmnlofda/
Try 2, 4 and the kill = 1 meteor.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-6mdqtyfaxdqg7dir/
Try 1, 3, 5, 7 = 1 meteor.
Hope this can help you with whatever you need - you can also go back to our earlier weeks, been killing him for 3 weeks now with one meteor spawn.

[TyrianFC]

The mechanic seems a bit weird on whether or not he drops a second meteor. It seems you dont have to push him to 8% before that timer is up but rather something like 11%. If he isn't below that % when the timer is up he drops the meteor immediately right before world in flames, but if you push him below that before the timer is up, he doesn't seem to drop it at all even if your still in p3 for like 5-10 seconds after.

Yeah, we noticed this on the night leading up to our first kill.

Ragnaros would be at ~11% as the Second Meteor cast was coming off cooldown, but he would always cast World in Flames first, allowing us to get him to 8% and skip the second meteor completely.

[Deleted]

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-or1uxlcalmnlofda/
Try 2, 4 and the kill = 1 meteor.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-6mdqtyfaxdqg7dir/
Try 1, 3, 5, 7 = 1 meteor.
Hope this can help you with whatever you need - you can also go back to our earlier weeks, been killing him for 3 weeks now with one meteor spawn.

Cheers bro