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    Helter Skelter format perhaps?

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    I'm aloso getting strange scale factors in SimC 420-8.

    Standard buffs, excpet DI and FM.

    10k iterrations:
    DPS:32685

    Int:4.148
    Hit:3.3812
    Crit:1.4798
    Haste:2.0614
    Mastery:1.3186

    50k iterrations:
    DPS:32747

    Int:4.2699
    Hit:3.3418
    Crit:1.3340
    Haste:1.8295
    Mastery:1.5425

    Standard buffs, excpet DI, FM and 5% crit on target(no warlock or fire mage in raid setup;/)

    10k iterrations:
    DPS:31389

    Int:4.2503
    Hit:3.1753
    Crit:1.2919
    Haste:2.0043
    Mastery:1.1135

    50k iterrations:
    DPS:31378

    Int:4.2903
    Hit:3.0963
    Crit:1.1001
    Haste:2.0613
    Mastery:1.6619


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    Try putting it to 25k iterations, 1k and 10k aren't fully reliable in terms of stat weights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swizzle View Post
    Helter Skelter format perhaps?
    Unfortunately not :< I can't find any reason why it'd put haste that high. 25k and 50k iterations, 450 and 500 sec length. I'm boggled :<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llyth View Post
    Unfortunately not :< I can't find any reason why it'd put haste that high. 25k and 50k iterations, 450 and 500 sec length. I'm boggled :<
    Do you by chance have the legendary but do not have VPLC AND are not at the soft-cap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swizzle View Post
    Do you by chance have the legendary but do not have VPLC AND are not at the soft-cap?
    I got VPLC and the soft cap, but only at the 391 staff. I did another one right now with these stats:
    # gear_stamina=6866
    # gear_intellect=6071
    # gear_spirit=21
    # gear_spell_power=2633
    # gear_hit_rating=1734
    # gear_crit_rating=682
    # gear_haste_rating=1772
    # gear_mastery_rating=1623

    and got these values:
    Int: 4.5151
    SP: 2.5448
    Hit: 3.7443
    Crit: 1.5583
    Haste : 2.1081
    Mastery: 1.6706

    when I lowered my haste by 20 points to go below haste softcap, the values only changed minimally. What am I missing!?

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    I should probably ask what race and professions you're running in this set-up? I think alliance toons would value Haste more since they don't have Time is Money or Berserking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swizzle View Post
    I should probably ask what race and professions you're running in this set-up? I think alliance toons would value Haste more since they don't have Time is Money or Berserking.
    I'm an orc because we're the master race, rolling tailoring/enchanting.

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    Hmmm, well these are the stats I have with a BiS build at/slightly above the soft-cap.

    Hit: 4.5218
    Crit: 2.1780
    Haste: 1.5664
    Mastery: 2.4437

    That's as a Troll with H VPLC, DTR, and Tailoring/Jewelcrafting. I guess...want to toss me your armory so I can run it through on my end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swizzle View Post
    Hmmm, well these are the stats I have with a BiS build at/slightly above the soft-cap.

    Hit: 4.5218
    Crit: 2.1780
    Haste: 1.5664
    Mastery: 2.4437

    That's as a Troll with H VPLC, DTR, and Tailoring/Jewelcrafting. I guess...want to toss me your armory so I can run it through on my end?
    should be in your inbox, I also reforged to be below haste softcap now, but am still getting the same results :<

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    I'm starting to think it's because you're an Orc and not a Troll. The sim I ran had you at 257 AB while my Troll sim, with only 115 more Haste than your toon, got out 297 AB. Best I can figure is that it's trying to maximize the sheer number of AB you can put out so it wants to get more Haste rolling. That's the best I can figure.

    To note, I had Haste at 1.91, Mastery at 1.61, and Crit at 1.47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swizzle View Post
    I'm starting to think it's because you're an Orc and not a Troll. The sim I ran had you at 257 AB while my Troll sim, with only 115 more Haste than your toon, got out 297 AB. Best I can figure is that it's trying to maximize the sheer number of AB you can put out so it wants to get more Haste rolling. That's the best I can figure.

    To note, I had Haste at 1.91, Mastery at 1.61, and Crit at 1.47.
    I guess that would explain it. It's a shame I can't stand the looks of a troll. While I don't do bad by any means, it'd be cool to minmax for those extra deeps ^^

    Thanks for your time Swizz, at least I got some piece of mind that I wasn't doing something horribly wrong when simming :P

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    Did 2 25k iteration sims on myself with 420-9 and they're nearly identical. Problem solved, I think.

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