[25H] Lord Rhyolith: Questions

[LimitedEdition]

Need some help for 25m heroic Lord Rhyolith

Our setup are as follows
2 tanks
6 melee on legs
6 AOE-er on fragments (Fragments are tanked on slime if possible)
6 Single-DPS on spark
5 healers

1. Some attempts obsidium armor fused to around 30+ but in some 10+.

How do people usually managed the slime? Is there someone slowing/stunning it

How many stack is a acceptable amount or what stack does your guild usually gets

2. When the 3rd spark dies, the boss is usually around 57-60% mark, is this acceptable ?
3. When the boss is superheated, we are usually ~29%, is our burn too slow (Lust usually at 4:10)
4. The transition into p2, how do you guy does the CD. The 1st stomp usually wipe us

thanks for everyone help

[madmessias]

Need some help for 25m heroic Lord Rhyolith

Our setup are as follows
2 tanks
6 melee on legs
6 AOE-er on fragments (Fragments are tanked on slime if possible)
6 Single-DPS on spark
5 healers

1. Some attempts obsidium armor fused to around 30+ but in some 10+.

How do people usually managed the slime? Is there someone slowing/stunning it

How many stack is a acceptable amount or what stack does your guild usually gets

2. When the 3rd spark dies, the boss is usually around 57-60% mark, is this acceptable ?
3. When the boss is superheated, we are usually ~29%, is our burn too slow (Lust usually at 4:10)
4. The transition into p2, how do you guy does the CD. The 1st stomp usually wipe us

thanks for everyone help

Link your WoL and i'll try helping

[Malm]

We use 5 people to aoe the fragments, which is atleast 1 to many, but rather safe than sorry, so you can gain 1 dps on the legs that way.

But the biggest problem in your assignments is that you're using 6 dps on the spark. We only use 1 mage and let the tank rotate cooldowns on higer stacks. You have to remember you don't have to kill the spark as fast as possible, you only need to kill it before a new spark appears, and the longer it's alive the more damage it will take.

So by cutting 1 dps from fragments and 5 dps from the spar to the legs you should have more than sufficient dps to push him to P2 way before superheated even becomes a problem

[Dezmoulis]

To Malm
I d like to see a parse from a 25 man where the mage takes down all 3 sparks by himself, cause we have 3 ppl 2 arc mages and 1 random ranged and they usually dies at :
1st spark-8 stacks
2nd spark - 9 to 11 stacks
same for 3rd

Thus i hardly think tank with cds can last more than 13 stacks
The way u describe it, it appears that your tank with cd rotations can survive like 17-20+ stacks.
If this can be done, i d love to know how

(we use 3 + 3 ppl on each leg + 3 ppl as the steering team)

[Deleted]

You will really need to add 6th, or even 7th healer on progression, especially if you struggle to get boss to P2 without Superheated stacks.
Best CD usage is spirit link+1-2 dmg reduction CDs on each stomp.
2nd phase is shitload of AoE and you will need 6 healers bursting 45-60k HPS for those 40 sec of P2.
You also should consider using BL at like 4:30, to help healers top raid before first stomp in P2.

[LimitedEdition]

How about slimes. Our slime stack seems pretty random like 10+ to 30+ range. How do you all generally manage them

[Emerzion]

How about slimes. Our slime stack seems pretty random like 10+ to 30+ range. How do you all generally manage them

Ignore them completely, incidental AoE will kill some off but you shouldn't make an effort to kill them.

You need to push p2 BEFORE superheated starts otherwise it's almost always going to be a wipe due to superheated + stomp doing insane damage.

[LimitedEdition]

We have been ignoring slime, just trying to kill them with fragment aoe.

But sometimes it stacks to 30+ which will enables us not being able to push p2.

[Emerzion]

We have been ignoring slime, just trying to kill them with fragment aoe.

But sometimes it stacks to 30+ which will enables us not being able to push p2.

We had 32 fuse last week on our kill, they aren't the reason you aren't pushing p2 fast enough. You should designate more damage to the legs throughout the fight.

[LimitedEdition]

i cant post link yet

WoL here(Just add worldoflogs url infront)
reports/rt-0l9sdiax79as5xso/

[Kinmaul]

The buff the sparks get that increase their damage done also increases their damage taken, 10% per stack. Thus if you have your ranged switch immediately you are actually losing out on boss dps time. You are better holding off dps until 8 stacks and having your tank run cd's, then blow up the spark in half the time.

1st spark: Burn immediately because the armor stacks on the legs will still be high, and there really isn't much else going on. This also allows the tank/healers to save their cd's for the next two sparks.
2nd spark: Ignore until 8 stacks and then kill.
3rd spark: Ignore until 8 stacks and then kill.
4th spark: Untouched. Once Rhyo goes into p2 the spark will despawn so any damage done to it is a waste.

Another thing to remember is that running over inactive volcanos will give him 2 stacks of a 5% damage buff, so 10% per inactive, and these fall off one at a time every ~15 seconds. Hitting one or two isn't the end of the world, but if your driver is terrible and plowing them over with no regard Rhyo's stomps can become quite brutal even in p1.

[Herecius]

Ignore them completely, incidental AoE will kill some off but you shouldn't make an effort to kill them.

You need to push p2 BEFORE superheated starts otherwise it's almost always going to be a wipe due to superheated + stomp doing insane damage.

If you've got a good boomkin, no reason to ignore the slimes. He can go nuts with multidotting and basically obliterate them.

[madmessias]

i cant post link yet

WoL here(Just add worldoflogs url infront)
reports/rt-0l9sdiax79as5xso/

You weren't using knockbacks enough, and all paladins should glyph holy wrath and use it, you seem to have people dpsiong the obsidians WAY to much
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...pes&boss=52558 .. i mean people are using arcane blast on them? Imo you shouldn't even bother dotting them, will def. earn you some dps.
As can be seen here http://raidbots.com/comparebot/4e772...6d00048a#buffs
some people aren't using their dps cooldowns (or defensive cooldowns) properly, not using them enoguh etc, but a mainthing you have to do to push dps is USE POTS, only 13people are using dps pots, should be all dpsers and the tanks, also remember to prepot, really need that extra dps to push him before superheated.

Your dps should increase alot, esp by people using pots and dpsing the obsidians.. Also, as you can see theres healers slacking on manapots, which is kinda lame. Imo you should get one more healer to survive the stomps in the last phase.

[Porcell]

If you've got a good boomkin, no reason to ignore the slimes. He can go nuts with multidotting and basically obliterate them.

He can go nuts multidotting and get huge DPS numbers on recount, but it really doesn't help you kill the boss. This fight is all about getting your damage into the right targets at the right time. Slimes should be knocked back and get incidental AoE from killing Fragments, but that's it. If your boomkin is blowing GCDs on dotting up slimes, those are GCDs that he should be spending on damaging Legs or Fragments or Sparks.

[Herecius]

He can go nuts multidotting and get huge DPS numbers on recount, but it really doesn't help you kill the boss. This fight is all about getting your damage into the right targets at the right time. Slimes should be knocked back and get incidental AoE from killing Fragments, but that's it. If your boomkin is blowing GCDs on dotting up slimes, those are GCDs that he should be spending on damaging Legs or Fragments or Sparks.

The point is that a good boomkin can keep up damage on the legs, the sparks, and the slimes at the same time.

[madmessias]

The point is that a good boomkin can keep up damage on the legs, the sparks, and the slimes at the same time.

Sure, but if they handle it properly theres no need imo, its like multidotting on shannox heroic.

[LimitedEdition]

We managed to get to phase 2 yesterday but the 1st stomp usually kill us, even if we survive, we cant make the 2nd stomp

We run 5 heals

Our CD is as followed
Just before P2: Tranq + Hymn
1st stomp: Barrier + AM
After 1st stomp: Tranq + Spirit link
2nd stomp: Barrier + AM
After 2nd stomp: Tranq

1. How are our CD ? is it not enough?
2. How are people dealing with laser beams, do you guys soak it and aoe heal OR spread out and avoid it ?

WoL
reports/rt-2pvwg7ifl06uqmep/dashboard/?enc=wipes&boss=52558