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    Quote Originally Posted by eErike View Post
    I am glad to see that my calculations where correct, was a bit worried there for a while, I almost fell asleep while I did it so i guess it's time for bed!
    They where very correct! Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wablakin View Post
    Rage comic requested, handle it!
    That'd be spam, so let's not. Okay?-- <3 Kel
    Where's the comic link? It pertains to the thread somewhat.

    Btw, I'm bad at Simcraft. Not sure how to change stats/items properly, other than raw edits.
    Could anyone tell me if with this char
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...argur/advanced
    should I change DMC or NF with VPLC. We usually have 1 lock that's DI-ing me in 25 mans.
    (I don't have VPLC yet)

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Moshic View Post
    Where's the comic link? It pertains to the thread somewhat.

    Btw, I'm bad at Simcraft. Not sure how to change stats/items properly, other than raw edits.
    Could anyone tell me if with this char
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...argur/advanced
    should I change DMC or NF with VPLC. We usually have 1 lock that's DI-ing me in 25 mans.
    (I don't have VPLC yet)
    You get DI, so your seccond VT cap is somewhere around 2100 haste rating, so you won't have to care about that. I would go with NF and VPLC and enchant that gloves with mastery!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moshic View Post
    Where's the comic link? It pertains to the thread somewhat.

    Btw, I'm bad at Simcraft. Not sure how to change stats/items properly, other than raw edits.
    Could anyone tell me if with this char
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...argur/advanced
    should I change DMC or NF with VPLC. We usually have 1 lock that's DI-ing me in 25 mans.
    (I don't have VPLC yet)
    I'd drop HST to 2144, and use VPLC + NF, get 17% hit and the rest into MST. Use wowreforge to hit the marks. +65MST on gloves aswell.
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  5. #25
    I know about mastery on gloves, I'm just crazy about haste at the moment. As you can see, I don't even have 2500. Thanks.

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    So, if you have those three trinkets, should you only use DMC if you need the Haste for an extra tick? I thought that it was BiS, along with VPLC, regardless?

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Erto View Post
    So, if you have those three trinkets, should you only use DMC if you need the Haste for an extra tick? I thought that it was BiS, along with VPLC, regardless?
    That's what I'm doing, going to use VPLC(norm or heroic) + NF(heroic) when I can get 2144HST without DMC:V.

    BiS should be VPLC(heroic) + NF(heroic).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erto View Post
    So, if you have those three trinkets, should you only use DMC if you need the Haste for an extra tick? I thought that it was BiS, along with VPLC, regardless?
    Kilee have a list for the trinkets, however this list bases the proc part of trinkets from WoL and can therefor, in the case of DMC: V differ a bit from the actual gain. Trinkets like NF are a sure static gain of "Bla int and bla mastery" and is thus a very secure card.
    VPLC is allways BiS untill blizzard decide to nerf it.

  9. #29
    DMCV Is better than the 378 NF, but only by a small amount. (at least in my Sims for my toon).
    I'm using VPLC+DMCV until I can get H NF.

    I'd recommend using simulationcraft+chardev and swap options for the trinkets around and see which one sims best for you, for me DMCV still wins on both patchwerk and helter-skelter style encounters at 50k iterations. (Though it is worth noting that the margin of error is still wider than the difference between the results)

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    Yeah, mine simmed DMC:V as being higher than NF too.

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    Whenever I sim with the VLC I never see the lightning bolt damage in the results tab

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    How about Theralions mirror HC vs VPLC N ?
    :>

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    According to Twintop's BiS list HVPLC, HNF, and HTM are 1, 2, and 3 with DMV coming in fourth.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...vailable-4.2.0

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Arlee View Post
    According to Twintop's BiS list HVPLC, HNF, and HTM are 1, 2, and 3 with DMV coming in fourth.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...vailable-4.2.0
    Not sure what part of that list you are reading but mine says:

    HVPLC, HNF, HTM, NVPLC, DMC:V.
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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Wablakin View Post
    Not sure what part of that list you are reading but mine says:

    HVPLC, HNF, HTM, NVPLC, DMC:V.
    Blerg I meant to say fifth... thanks

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    So I just won NF(HC) and replacing NF Norm ;D so now its VPLC + HNF. Just that the other SP in my guild called me a loot whore for winning the trinket and that I don't want to give it to him. And since we both rolled 75 and I got the trinket he said its not fair and that I'm a loot whore...

    EDIT: Just a question.. how much dps should I be doing with my gear? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%C3%A1/simple+ HNF (if it isn't updated) and I get DI
    Last edited by Kassina; 2011-10-09 at 09:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josefina View Post
    So I just won NF(HC) and replacing NF Norm ;D so now its VPLC + HNF. Just that the other SP in my guild called me a loot whore for winning the trinket and that I don't want to give it to him. And since we both rolled 75 and I got the trinket he said its not fair and that I'm a loot whore...

    EDIT: Just a question.. how much dps should I be doing with my gear? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%C3%A1/simple+ HNF (if it isn't updated) and I get DI
    On Baleroc, around 30-33k with appropiate buffs. Once you get four set, anything from 31-37k. Other fights are very setup dependant and varies each try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariadne View Post
    On Baleroc, around 30-33k with appropiate buffs. Once you get four set, anything from 31-37k. Other fights are very setup dependant and varies each try.
    On Bale I'm around 25k since I take the shards with dispersion, but 30-33k sounds quite much.. hmm
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    You can manage at least 32k soaking shards without a staff.

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    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-8g...&e=5075#Londyn
    Doin 33.8k while soaking a shard w/o a legendary, so 30k-33k wouldnt be unreasonable at all.
    Last edited by Modernn; 2011-10-10 at 09:24 AM.

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