Idiot With Computers Needs Help Please !

[Deleted]

Hello all firstly let me say I'm no computer expert to say the least so I'm here today to ask you guys for help.

My computer is old and its showing when i'm playing WOW im in a 25 man guild and play on everything low still with 20 FPS and i want to upgrade or get a new one if possible.
I have looked at the stickys and found a wall of text that i have no idea what it means.

Upgrade or New Computer:Either

Upgrade on what (you hope):Everything thoe I do have a monitor already

Willing to Self Build or a Pre-Built:Local computer store will build it for a few £

How much you want to spend:£500 - £600

How much you can spend: ^

What all you plan to use it for: Wow Internet Browsing

What Operating system you want to use & Bit: No idea what this means

What Resolution you hope to be in: Well im currently playing in 1024 x 768

What Settings do you Want & how much FPS: Id like to play WOW in high and be able to play MW3 at a decent rate

What Country are you from:UK

What can you re-use: No Idea

Network will be wired or wireless: Wired

Any Additional Info Here:
Currently I have this
Windows XP (WIN 32)
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8550 Triple-Core Processor, MMX, 3DNow (3 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 3072MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9600 GT

This was copied off DxDiag so i hope thats enought info

[jonny888]

Yeh, you pretty much want a new computer. There aren't any parts there which are really worth keeping. Probably the main thing you want to focus on is you CPU as that is what WoW makes the most use of. Try looking at the Intel i5 series of CPUs as they should be able to cope with what you want to do, and they're not that expensive That gfx card could probably be okay if you wanted just WoW, but since you want to play MW3 at high FPS, I can't imagine that card is going to be able to cut it.

What Operating system you want to use & Bit: No idea what this means

It means what operating system do you want to use. The "& Bit" part means whether you want a 32 bit OS or a 64 bit OS. Without going into too much detail, you basically want to get a 64 bit OS (probably Windows 7 - 64 bit) as you'll be limited to under under 4GB of RAM if you get a 32 bit version.

But honestly, if you don't even know what the questions mean, I would seriously recommend against you going out and buying single parts and getting them put together. If you're willing to research and find out what these things mean, then maybe it would work. Otherwise, you'd be better of just going with a pre-built PC off somewhere like Overclockers.

[Deleted]

Hi thanks for the quick response I agree I will not be building it myself been reading how to and well looks very complicated to say the
least ive checked over-clock and seen some computers that are in my range see what you think and will it do what I want it to ?

As I cant link URL here is the name

"Cataclysm Hogger" Intel Core i3 550 3.20GHz DDR3 MMO Gaming System

"Titan Xenomorph" Intel Core i3 550 3.20GHz DDR3 System - V3.0

Also would i need to upgrade them for the SSD Drive ? And would windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit be ok ?

[Uggorthaholy]

Both of those are last generation processors, so I can't outright recommend them.

What is the actual site you are using?

[Arslay]

Take this

$1000 Build
Case: CoolerMaster Haf 912 $59.99
Power Supply: Corsair TX650 $89.99
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68X UD-3 $169.99
Processor: Intel i5 2500k $219.99
CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 $49.99
RAM: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage 8GB $84.99
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 $64.99
Optical Disc Drive: Sony Optiarc SATA DVD/CD Burner $19.99
Graphics Card: MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr $249.99
Total: 1009.91 USD

Drop the Mobo down to p67-gd55

From Sweet Spot Build


Buy it from Novatech and get yer shop to assemble it. Try to get a student friend to get Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit for you for super cheap.

[Deleted]

Hey was using overclock uk and id rather not build it myself as im useless

[Uggorthaholy]

Hey was using overclock uk and id rather not build it myself as im useless

sorry, I'm at overclock.co.uk and do not see any full systems there, can't find anything with the search. Basically, you want an i3 2100 if you want intel for cheap - the other i processors are last generation, limit upgrades, and don't perform nearly as well.

[Deleted]

Can you link it ? I cant link the ones ive seen but there under Home / system and bundles / gaming systems and called Cataclysm Hellscream or Cataclysm Hogger

[Uggorthaholy]

Well, they don't have a single system with a 2100.



This would be good - you NEED one of the upgraded GPU's (460 or 6950), but both are out of stock.

[Deleted]

Sent you a pm with the Link

[Deleted]

Overclockers don't sell an i3 2100 system, only an older dual core.

If you want it pre-built, you'd be better off going with scan.co.uk as they have a i3 2100 setup.

I can give you a direct link but here is the page.

http://www.scan.co.uk/value-systems?_s_icmp=wSLgUI8x

You could get the "Scan Value System V15" with a 6870 graphics card for £573.32 inc VAT.
Or if you can add £35 to your budget you could look at getting the "Scan Value System V20" with a 6870 for £634.52 inc VAT.

I'd recommend scan over overclockers, due to personal experience with both, and the pricing on scan is always better(Cheaper).

[Uggorthaholy]

I did post an image. They have a custom builder there. I setup a 2100 build that is nice but needs a different GPU.

[Pistola]

Personally i would swerve the cataclysm PCs.
They are good, but it seems like extra money being tagged on because of the name.

I've been saving up for a computer on your budget and the xenomorph is the best option i found.

It won't let me post a link but you can find it at overclockers, click systems and bundles and then gaming systems.
If you sort by price you'll see it at the top as the 'Titan Xenomorph'.

You want to upgrade the graphics to the 460, and then the operating system and SSD are up to you.
I'll be buying this on thursday when i get paid finally with windows 7 installed (which youll need for DX11 to improve your graphics).
As someone mentioned above, you can get windows 7 for cheap from students, but i only managed to find upgrade editions, which require you to have an existing version of windows installed.

As for the SSD, it will make the whole thing boot up in about 15 seconds and warcraft will load in an instant, but being on a budget like myself, it's more of a luxury that you should probably think about getting later down the road.

It's currently on special offer this week for just under 600 with the 460 graphics and windows 7.
It's the best setup i have managed to find so far for the price.

Hope that helped.

[Deleted]

I did post an image. They have a custom builder there. I setup a 2100 build that is nice but needs a different GPU.

I saw, that but just wanted to give him the scan.co.uk pre-builts aswell, since they're better value for money in my opinon. The first one I mention is stronger than the OCuk one you linked, whilst also been cheaper, otherwise for £30 than you OCuk build he could get a quaad core from scan.

[Deleted]

Thanks for all the awesome responses for you all this is the system im thinking of buying and its gunna cost £725 is this ok ?

Scan V20 System
LN37806 1GB EVGA GTX 560 Ti SC, 40nm, 4212MHz GDDR5, GPU 900MHz, Shader 1800MHz, 384 Cores, DVI-I/ Mini HDMI +Free Batman
LN37396 1TB Seagate ST31000524AS Barracuda 7200.12, SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.5ms, NCQ
LN35692 500W PSU, Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-500CXUK, 80% Eff', Uncertified, Quiet Fan, ATX v2.3
LN36550 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance Jet Black, PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC, CAS 9-9-9-24, XMP, 1.50V
LN35069 Akasa AK-ICR-10 3.5" Front Bay Muliti Format Card Reader + Front Slot for 2.5" SATA SSD/HDD
LN40543 Asus P8H61-M LE/USB3 <REV 3.0>, Intel H61, S 1155, DDR3, SATA II - 3Gb/s, PCIe 2.0 (x16), Micro ATX
LN36728 Intel Core i5 2400, S1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad Core, 3.1GHz, GPU 850 Mhz, 6MB Cache, 95W, Retail
LN29161 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP1, Operating System, Single, - OEM
LN39293 Samsung WriteMaster SH-S222AB/BEBE 22x DVD±R, 12x DVD±R, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, SATA, Black, OEM
LN39640 Scan Value 20
LN41204 Scan Value System Range
LN37449 Thermaltake Dokker Black Mid Tower Case with built in HDD Hotswap Docking for 3.5/2.5" SATA w/o PSU

[Uggorthaholy]

The barracuda is an ok drive - replace it with a Samsung Spinpoint F3 is able.
Step up the motherboard to H67 chipset at least, and I would recommend an i5 2500/2500k over the 2400.

[Deleted]

Ok so i have the choice of these both very close to same price whats best ?

System Specification
- Case: BitFenix Shinobi - Black
- Power Supply: OCZ ZS 650w PSU
- CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz overclocked to 4.40GHz
- Motherboard: Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
- Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight CPU Cooler
- RAM: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
- Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6GB/s
- Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 460 OC 1024MB GDDR5
- Sound: Realtek 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)
- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA Drive

Or

Scan V20 System
LN37806 1GB EVGA GTX 560 Ti SC, 40nm, 4212MHz GDDR5, GPU 900MHz, Shader 1800MHz, 384 Cores, DVI-I/ Mini HDMI +Free Batman
LN37396 1TB Seagate ST31000524AS Barracuda 7200.12, SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.5ms, NCQ
LN35692 500W PSU, Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-500CXUK, 80% Eff', Uncertified, Quiet Fan, ATX v2.3
LN36550 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance Jet Black, PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC, CAS 9-9-9-24, XMP, 1.50V
LN35069 Akasa AK-ICR-10 3.5" Front Bay Muliti Format Card Reader + Front Slot for 2.5" SATA SSD/HDD
LN40543 Asus P8H61-M LE/USB3 <REV 3.0>, Intel H61, S 1155, DDR3, SATA II - 3Gb/s, PCIe 2.0 (x16), Micro ATX
LN36728 Intel Core i5 2400, S1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad Core, 3.1GHz, GPU 850 Mhz, 6MB Cache, 95W, Retail
LN29161 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP1, Operating System, Single, - OEM
LN39293 Samsung WriteMaster SH-S222AB/BEBE 22x DVD±R, 12x DVD±R, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, SATA, Black, OEM
LN39640 Scan Value 20
LN41204 Scan Value System Range
LN37449 Thermaltake Dokker Black Mid Tower Case with built in HDD Hotswap Docking for 3.5/2.5" SATA w/o PSU

[Djinni]

Buy it from Novatech and get yer shop to assemble it. Try to get a student friend to get Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit for you for super cheap.

Novatech will build it for you for £60 inc VAT and usually include free next day delivery (if you ask nicely)

[Deleted]

http://www.scan.co.uk/todayonly/inde..._icmp=AkaIX3H4 look at the first computer there (It's a No-Brainer!) for £467 and you can add a 560 ti from scan http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-g...hdmi-plusfree- for £180 for a total of £647 and that would be a great computer but just be aware that those are just parts and you would have to assemble them or get a computer shop to assemble it for you.