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    I'm actually looking forward to not seeing someone make a toon at like 8am and by the time dinner happens they are level 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggoman View Post
    SWTOR will be successful no doubt, I'm sure they will get a profit. But it will never be as successful as WoW, or even lineage lol! But the MMO that might stir the pot is going to be GW2 not SWTOR. If they take off they will make a splash in the industry because of how unique a lot of their approach is.

    I think SWTOR will have a good 6 months, (WoW gained subs for 4 years) and then subs will slowly decline especially if they make the end game = raiding. Just doesn't look like there is enough there to keep people continuously interested in the game. SWTOR so far looks like a Bio-ware game with WoW end game PvP/Raiding. I think the WoW end game for SWTOR pretty much has me thinking I'm going to level to see the stories and then thats it. If I want raiding end game content WoW is the best.
    The reason why GW2 is making such a stir is people are waiting to see exactly how much community response they are willing to listen to when it comes to a free game that they get no income from other than buying the game. Riot usually gets blasted for it's lack of response to the community's problems because of the fact that they really don't make you have to pay for the game, so in return they just drop what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nellise View Post
    I'm hoping they add heirloom type gear pretty quick so that on alts you can focus mostly on the class quest and not have to do so many of the shared side quests that you've already done before.
    Or maybe their leveling content won't be like WoW where you feel the need to blow through it as quickly as possible.
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    I played the beta for a few weeks straight and didn't even see a hint of player housing besides the ship, which was simply an instance for you and your companions. Did I miss something?
    Quote Originally Posted by magnuzze View Post
    considering that TG warriors was here since Vanilla, and DK's got into the World of warcraft in WoTLK... you can say that they have been stealing 2-handed from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanDellJack View Post
    I played the beta for a few weeks straight and didn't even see a hint of player housing besides the ship, which was simply an instance for you and your companions. Did I miss something?
    Nope.

    It works for some games, but really isn't practical for most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarGar View Post
    Nope.

    It works for some games, but really isn't practical for most.
    Ok I didn't think there was housing but for some reason I keep seeing people say it's in TOR.
    Quote Originally Posted by magnuzze View Post
    considering that TG warriors was here since Vanilla, and DK's got into the World of warcraft in WoTLK... you can say that they have been stealing 2-handed from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanDellJack View Post
    Ok I didn't think there was housing but for some reason I keep seeing people say it's in TOR.
    Unfortunately, there are many false rumors going around about the game. =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarGar View Post
    Maybe. But I'm at over 100 hours played on ME1, and almost 300 hours played on ME2 (mostly because I like the gameplay for ME2 much more). And that's with the same story for all 6 classes. I've only gotten a small taste for SWTOR so far, but I expect to spend even more time there than in ME with all the different class stories, the different yet balanced classes (unlike ME2 where Sentinel >>>> all), and the multiplayer aspect which I expect to add much, much more replay-ability.
    Well, let's assume that each class has 100 hours of game time in the personal story line (I have no idea if this is true, but it seems reasonable). An avid MMO player will probably play 5 hours a day, if not more than that. So all 8 classes will take him approximately 5 to 6 months. If the end game is good people will obviously continue playing after that. But if the end game is not good, it's a good guess that people will be done with the game after 6 months. What will happen is not something I can tell, but it's not unreasonable to guess that people will be done with the story lines after 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanDellJack View Post
    Ok I didn't think there was housing but for some reason I keep seeing people say it's in TOR.
    Housing in SWTOR at launch is your spaceship (when you get one).

    There are alot of trolls spreading misinformation about TOR so be wary .. the biggest one is that TOR is just a WoW clone.

    Research the game yourself to disprove this. It has internet in a 3D environment, and uses a mouse for UI interaction. bout it. Standard controls for any game pre-dating WoW too. (A-W-D, etc)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponXAnimosity View Post
    SWTOR will be a breath of fresh air for the first few months. Then, people will be quickly to judge and whine about how it's like WoW but set in space and before you know it, the player base bring their griefing and QQing from WoW over to SWTOR and screw it up.
    Just like every other MMO has. Most people only join these games because they're new and shiny. People only usually jump ship for good if they're in love with the game and make sure it's there for good. I mean what's the point investing in a game that has a seriously low server population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Netherinfern0 View Post
    Just like every other MMO has. Most people only join these games because they're new and shiny. People only usually jump ship for good if they're in love with the game and make sure it's there for good. I mean what's the point investing in a game that has a seriously low server population.
    You were not seeing clearly when you wrote this post This game is beyond what any MMO offers.
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    I'm in love with this game, I love star wars (all 6 movies too O_O) and I'll definatley be playing this for a good long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebum06 View Post
    Well, let's assume that each class has 100 hours of game time in the personal story line (I have no idea if this is true, but it seems reasonable). An avid MMO player will probably play 5 hours a day, if not more than that. So all 8 classes will take him approximately 5 to 6 months. If the end game is good people will obviously continue playing after that. But if the end game is not good, it's a good guess that people will be done with the game after 6 months. What will happen is not something I can tell, but it's not unreasonable to guess that people will be done with the story lines after 6 months.
    If you listen to all the story, you're looking at around 200 hours, give or take, per character. Then you add in any pvp or flashpoints that you want to do. Then exploring and searching for datacrons if you are into that kind of thing. Then there is the crafting. Then there are the companion story arcs. Then there are the space missions. Then the raid content. Then the added content (The writers are done, but still working...). Then the repeatable content. Then the...

    People will vary, but there is a lot to do for a lot of differnt people and what they enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebum06 View Post
    Well, let's assume that each class has 100 hours of game time in the personal story line (I have no idea if this is true, but it seems reasonable). An avid MMO player will probably play 5 hours a day, if not more than that. So all 8 classes will take him approximately 5 to 6 months. If the end game is good people will obviously continue playing after that. But if the end game is not good, it's a good guess that people will be done with the game after 6 months. What will happen is not something I can tell, but it's not unreasonable to guess that people will be done with the story lines after 6 months.
    You're probably right. To which I would say, if people are simply into a game for the shallow reason that they can show off their high level gear or achievements, perhaps WoW, Call of Duty, or other such games would be right for them. If they're more into having fun in a game because it's a genuinely enjoyable experience, they might find themselves strangely and inexplicably attracted to SWTOR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollsbane View Post
    If you listen to all the story, you're looking at around 200 hours, give or take, per character. Then you add in any pvp or flashpoints that you want to do. Then exploring and searching for datacrons if you are into that kind of thing. Then there is the crafting. Then there are the companion story arcs. Then there are the space missions. Then the raid content. Then the added content (The writers are done, but still working...). Then the repeatable content. Then the...

    People will vary, but there is a lot to do for a lot of differnt people and what they enjoy.
    Oh, I wasn't commenting on whether there were things to do or not. I was just saying that the story lines could probably be done in 6 months, although if there really is 200 hours for each class as you say then that's probably going to take longer than that.

    You're probably right. To which I would say, if people are simply into a game for the shallow reason that they can show off their high level gear or achievements, perhaps WoW, Call of Duty, or other such games would be right for them. If they're more into having fun in a game because it's a genuinely enjoyable experience, they might find themselves strangely and inexplicably attracted to SWTOR.
    Huh, what does that have to do with what I said? The guy you quoted said that, if the end game is not good, people would quit once they finished the main story line. That has nothing to do with people just wanting to show off gear :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollsbane View Post
    Unfortunately, there are many false rumors going around about the game. =(
    367?

    On topic: It is a well-known fact that everything Bioware touches turns into an awesome game. I see the game going places, the beta was phenomenal, the gameplay was good, balanced, and interesting. The scaled world is an awesome design and opens up a lot in exploration.


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    Trollsbane, which server area will you be putting your guild on, I'm interested in your guild and was just curious, I usually choose in between east and west... and I love my low ping.

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    Yes...the more i look into SWTOR the more i regret signing up for the year term agreement Blizzard put out a few days ago Ah well, free Diablo 3 and love that i get to be a guarenteed Beta tester.

    But WoW actually does have alot to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggles View Post
    Trollsbane, which server area will you be putting your guild on, I'm interested in your guild and was just curious, I usually choose in between east and west... and I love my low ping.
    West coast. Bottom of the first post in the recruitment thread:
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...R-guild-thread

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    I don't think SWTOR will fail, per se, but it won't put anything more than a dent in the market.

    SWTOR isn't new - it's another MMO based on a popular IP. The grounds for success just isn't there.

    That said, it'll probably do well, considering it's loyal fanbase. But I'm going to guess that it'll spike at 3-4 million subs and then decline as people start looking back at WoW and/or towards GW2.

    Same goes for GW2, subsequentially.
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