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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthoren View Post
    realistically a zerg should easily get the critical mass muta count far before a mothership comes onto the scene and you would have to have made your build for templar early on for that to be viable.
    That's the other side to it. Mutas will really shutdown your gas mining a lot of the time and archon toilet is very gas intensive. 300 gas for every archon and the mother costs 400 gas plus you have to build a stargate and a fleet beacon before that which is another 350 gas. Unless you're on 4 base which won't happen you simply won't have the gas to go for that plus blink stalkers to deal with early mutas to go for a technique which has been severely weakened and is difficult to pull off anyway

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    Okay... so... MVP vs Nestea... It was like I saw how the universe was created!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azalu View Post
    It doesn't work anymore. The zerg would have to be pretty stupid to allow a mothership to catch his mutas.
    Dont need an archon toilet. As long as you have archons, muta balls should be no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajerman View Post
    Dont need an archon toilet. As long as you have archons, muta balls should be no problem.
    How can you expect to defend multiple bases with archons? You'd have to split your army into 2-3 and you won't have more than 4 archons.

    The problem of mutas isn't dealing with it in a direct confrontation, the difficulty is trying to defend multiple bases with slow moving units

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    Shuttle high temps around and storm like BW days. Honestly you can never go wrong with well placed storms against a mass of mutas then morph into Archons. Mutas are incredibly weak in direct engagements, except at critical mass, but even supply against stalkers they're going to get destroyed and come out severely behind unless enough eco damage is dealt. Phoenix can be used, but only if you completely dominate him before he gets critical, then his only option is either corrupters or hydras. Corrupters are practially ruled out unless you get Broodlords but that's extremely expensive, so you're choked into hydra tech and if they get grav-lifted then you're screwed.

    For terran... sorry. Learn to use a raven or something, that thing can easily fuck a zerg's day up, just no terrans have bothered to really utilize it and go with
    standard marine/tank against baneling/mutas and think they can win. And even so against like 8 mutas if you have 16 marines run in and stim with a medivac you're still very cost effective and will force mutas to back out. It's a matter of not letting him mass that much. Hell even thors backed with marines are incredibly strong against mutas. No zerg would attempt to magic box a thor backed up with marines.

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    Thats true. I was mostly talking about attacking armies with mutas. Not harassment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelyor View Post
    Did anyone else see this tease to a new multiplayer unit in Heart of the Swarm. http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/119/1198315p1.html

    Could be some kind of firebat hybrid. Might be interesting.
    http://i.imgur.com/1ejfl.jpg

    My bet goes with this.

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    Mutas aren't a straight up fighting unit, though.

    That said, send in lings First, then attack with mutas. Lings have a higher priority than the mutas, so your mutas get to just unload.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazric View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/1ejfl.jpg

    My bet goes with this.
    That just made my day.

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    Anyone on US wanna play some games? Seam.482
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    Quote Originally Posted by seam View Post
    Anyone on US wanna play some games? Seam.482
    I might play a few later, gunna have dinner then go to soccer practice tho first.
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    Playing Mech vs Zerg is still funny.

    Oh, you were winning? I was on one base?

    Well, you missed up on your worker split, so you have 2 workers now. Enjoy. "HE'S LININ' EM UP!" - Day9
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    Quote Originally Posted by seam View Post
    Playing Mech vs Zerg is still funny.

    Oh, you were winning? I was on one base?

    Well, you missed up on your worker split, so you have 2 workers now. Enjoy. "HE'S LININ' EM UP!" - Day9
    Oh my heart...it aches....damn you helions, damn you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seam View Post
    Playing Mech vs Zerg is still funny.

    Oh, you were winning? I was on one base?

    Well, you missed up on your worker split, so you have 2 workers now. Enjoy. "HE'S LININ' EM UP!" - Day9
    Mech V Zerg.... why you no nerf hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allakaboom View Post
    Mech V Zerg.... why you no nerf hard.
    Because it's bad in TvP and meeeh in TvT(Since the patch) =(

    Oh, and yeah
    10 mins into a game.
    4 minutes later
    Last edited by seam; 2011-10-13 at 07:28 PM.
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    Moved this here at mods request.

    Anyone attending a barcraft event for MLG Orlando? I am and I was just curious if anyone else was. For those who don't know what it is. It's basically an event where a bunch of gamers get together, get drunk, and watch E-Sports. Pretty damn awesome. Lucky for us, the owner of Montreal's biggest club is a huge sc2 fan and is hosting it. We've got about 500 confirmed and 900-1000 that might attend. Truly a monolithic event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajerman View Post
    Moved this here at mods request.

    Anyone attending a barcraft event for MLG Orlando? I am and I was just curious if anyone else was. For those who don't know what it is. It's basically an event where a bunch of gamers get together, get drunk, and watch E-Sports. Pretty damn awesome. Lucky for us, the owner of Montreal's biggest club is a huge sc2 fan and is hosting it. We've got about 500 confirmed and 900-1000 that might attend. Truly a monolithic event.
    I'm not old enough to drink yet so no barcrafts for me...but I really want to go T-T(hates the US drinking age).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthoren View Post
    I'm not old enough to drink yet so no barcrafts for me...but I really want to go T-T(hates the US drinking age).
    Muahahahahahahah

    /drink =P. If I lived in the US i'm only just old enough myself

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    Best part is its not a sausagefest. the amount of women who are attending is astounding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazric View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/1ejfl.jpg

    My bet goes with this.
    "heard"

    ... Sigh.

    ---------- Post added 2011-10-14 at 06:34 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by seam View Post
    Because it's bad in TvP and meeeh in TvT(Since the patch) =(

    Oh, and yeah
    10 mins into a game.
    4 minutes later
    I can just see the thought process.

    "Maybe if I build enough static defenses he won't have room to drop the hellions anymore!"

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