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    A different change to Widow Mines will be put on the Balance Test Map soon. Instead of nerfing the radius from 1.75 to 1.25, the damage will decay the further the unit it is outside of the radius. So units in the 0-1.25 radius take full damage, 1.25-1.50 take 50% damage, and 1.50-1.75 take 25% damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    A different change to Widow Mines will be put on the Balance Test Map soon. Instead of nerfing the radius from 1.75 to 1.25, the damage will decay the further the unit it is outside of the radius. So units in the 0-1.25 radius take full damage, 1.25-1.50 take 50% damage, and 1.50-1.75 take 25% damage.
    I still think that Immortal taking full damage from the mine is total bullshit
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    Zerg so aggressive wow

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    That sounds like a Doge quote.

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    Doge much shibe. Doge very talented, wow
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    I don't get it
    I can only guess what shibe means, it was a dog from the game where other dog went to heaven because she was stupid and in heaven was no wi-fi. Fuck, i need to type something on topic before i got banned.
    umm ehhh, oh guys, JAYDONG AND BOMBER SO GOOD GAMES WOW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
    Russians are a nation inhabiting territory of Russia an ex-USSR countries. Russians enjoy drinking vodka and listening to the bears playing button-accordions. Russians are open- and warm- hearted. They are ready to share their last prianik (russian sweet cookie) with guests, in case lasts encounter that somewhere. Though, it's almost unreal, 'cos russians usually hide their stuff well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    I don't get it
    I can only guess what shibe means, it was a dog from the game where other dog went to heaven because she was stupid and in heaven was no wi-fi. Fuck, i need to type something on topic before i got banned.
    umm ehhh, oh guys, JAYDONG AND BOMBER SO GOOD GAMES WOW
    Pfff, please, I've only been banned on mmoc like 100 times and I rarely post on topic. Sure as hell aren't going to get in trouble here unless someone reports you for it because it's such a quiet yet established thread

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    GSL S3 finals was really good between Dear and soO. Glad I drunkenly woke up to watch that one, was very one sided though, was no point where I thought the loser would pull it back

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    Meh, I feel like it's WoL all over again, zerg needs 3 bases to be on equal (if slightly ahead) footing with toss, but that makes them really vulnerable to strong 2 base pressure/allin, the margin for error is really small (even something like 2-3 extra drones instead of units makes almost impossible to recover unless toss screws up). I would like for LotV to see stronger options for 2 base zerg, but maybe it is something that's solvable by better map design (more open thirds which make FF less useful), or something similar.

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    You got any examples? Looking at the current map pool:

    Whirlwind
    Frost
    Bel'shir
    Polar Night
    Yeonsu
    Derelict
    Akilon

    Derelict is undeniably just bad for protoss. Yeonsu is ok. Whirlwind is ok. Bel'shir is ok. Polar Night has a very open 3rd but despite that seems to be ok-ish. Frost again is a bit of a mix and Akilon is really good. That's basically the opposite for Zerg as Derelict and Polar Night are great for you, Bel'shir a pain because of the 4th issue and Akilon is not great at all, not due to your own bases but your opponent. Are there any maps currently (or maybe past) that you could say are "good" because otherwise it's not a situation that has an easy answer. There also comes a point where a map has been around long enough that you can manage to play it brilliantly and in a balanced way despite a favoured race for it.

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    I think all the maps are pretty good this season and the margin for error really isnt that small vs toss. Zerg player too and I get on just fine with the maps and being able to make few drones and army units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudomix View Post
    Meh, I feel like it's WoL all over again, zerg needs 3 bases to be on equal (if slightly ahead) footing with toss, but that makes them really vulnerable to strong 2 base pressure/allin, the margin for error is really small (even something like 2-3 extra drones instead of units makes almost impossible to recover unless toss screws up). I would like for LotV to see stronger options for 2 base zerg, but maybe it is something that's solvable by better map design (more open thirds which make FF less useful), or something similar.
    As protoss player I must admit zerg could use some more 2 base stuff. But hell I am glad PvZ is far from what it was in WoL. Toss actually needed to allin during the end phase of WoL or else it was an almost certain win for zerg. I still hate the Stephano roach timing and if that didn't happen or zerg failed to kill the toss with it gglords +winfestors where just around the corner. The zerg meta at the end of WoL destroyed alot of my joy watching tournaments(untill Parting was able to perfect the immortal allin wich was a joy to watch for me cause I really hated zerg during that period)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperedodo View Post
    As protoss player I must admit zerg could use some more 2 base stuff. But hell I am glad PvZ is far from what it was in WoL. Toss actually needed to allin during the end phase of WoL or else it was an almost certain win for zerg. I still hate the Stephano roach timing and if that didn't happen or zerg failed to kill the toss with it gglords +winfestors where just around the corner. The zerg meta at the end of WoL destroyed alot of my joy watching tournaments(untill Parting was able to perfect the immortal allin wich was a joy to watch for me cause I really hated zerg during that period)
    As a protoss in the lower leagues (top of gold, everyone I seem to play is ex platinum and sometimes current plat) I love it when they go for a big roach push. When I first got into gold, I had like an 80% winrate against Zerg because they all went for this attack but due to not being that great themselves they didn't have the numbers and I could steamroll them so hard. Same goes now just less so as I see this attack less often

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    Quote Originally Posted by MerinPally View Post
    As a protoss in the lower leagues (top of gold, everyone I seem to play is ex platinum and sometimes current plat) I love it when they go for a big roach push. When I first got into gold, I had like an 80% winrate against Zerg because they all went for this attack but due to not being that great themselves they didn't have the numbers and I could steamroll them so hard. Same goes now just less so as I see this attack less often
    Well now with HotS the roach push isn't a real thing anymore. Was talking about the horrid pvz of late WoL where Stephano still was king as zerg. Now with the MSC making forge expand not the only viable opening when trying to play 2+ makes it alot riskier going for this push as zerg.

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    Polt so smart. Looking foward to see Polt win over Jaedong in the Grand Finals.

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    Aye the grand finals are today. Maybe I should try watch that.
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    Ugh, it's going to be a repeat of the S2 finals again... I don't see Byul beating Jaedong or Oz beating Polt, so gonna be Polt vs JD again, and you know how that's gonna go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vathdar View Post
    Ugh, it's going to be a repeat of the S2 finals again... I don't see Byul beating Jaedong or Oz beating Polt, so gonna be Polt vs JD again, and you know how that's gonna go...
    Yeah pretty much. Either way it's going to be a big deal because noone has defended their title (let alone consecutive seasons) as Duckdeok wasn't able in Europe and that was the only real chance. Then if something does go wrong and Polt loses then The One True Dong gets his first championship.

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    Is it still a thing to say that using a certain unit is a cheap tactic? I had this happen in a ZvT where my opponent called me "desperate" for using Ultralisks in my Hydra/Roach comp. Then again, he did give me a "f-you" at the start, and was behind me on bases most of the game.

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