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  1. #321
    Gemming/Reforging short guide:

    Mastery > 1.2*Parry Rating = Dodge Rating > Stamina

    Until Block% + Parry% + Dodge% + Miss%(5%) = 102.4%, at which point

    Stamina > Avoidance > Mastery

    but you should maintain the 102.4% unhittable cap.
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    I dropped 2 points from Cruelty and put them into Safeguard. I feel like I've overlooked this and the good uses for it. On H-Morchok we were having a problem with our Combat Rogue taking too much damage even with feint up. Last night with Intervene on every other stomp or so my side's healer definitely saw the improvement. Using it before the other tank would soak Hour of Twilight on Normal Ultrax helped a fair amount. On Blackhorn it was a mini cooldown while I was otherwise sitting there doing nothing while my stacks reset, and on Madness it came in handy for impales. Overall it feels like some added utility that I have to help healer stress, and since it works for the 4 encounters I tank I'll probably stick with it.

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    I'm currently using Safeguard and Rallying Cry combined to keep our warlock alive on heroic Ultraxion (where you need 6 people in total to survive the HoTs, which is a real pain on class selection); I don't see why it hasn't been praised further this tier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammoth View Post
    I'm currently using Safeguard and Rallying Cry combined to keep our warlock alive on heroic Ultraxion (where you need 6 people in total to survive the HoTs, which is a real pain on class selection); I don't see why it hasn't been praised further this tier.
    Same. A 30% damage reduction is pretty baller. It's situational, but I'm going to stick with it for a bit and see what other uses I can get out of it once we move on to some harder heroics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agallochh View Post
    Same. A 30% damage reduction is pretty baller. It's situational, but I'm going to stick with it for a bit and see what other uses I can get out of it once we move on to some harder heroics.
    You will want it on heroic spine

  6. #326
    I'm new to shield tanking. I'm seeing some of the most geared Prot Warriors with roughly 85% to 95% CTC (miss+parry+dodge+block). Does this mean that they are relying on Shield Block to reach full CTC in current heroic DS gear levels (equating to 33% uptime)? Or is there something I am missing? Thank you for any help.

  7. #327
    Quote Originally Posted by thehordemage View Post
    I'm new to shield tanking. I'm seeing some of the most geared Prot Warriors with roughly 85% to 95% CTC (miss+parry+dodge+block). Does this mean that they are relying on Shield Block to reach full CTC in current heroic DS gear levels (equating to 33% uptime)? Or is there something I am missing? Thank you for any help.
    I seriously doubt any geared prot warrior will be going to an encounter like, say hc warmaster with 85-95 percent CTC.

  8. #328
    well I see very few that actually meet 102.4

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehordemage View Post
    well I see very few that actually meet 102.4
    In which case they're clueless.

    Either way, don't forget that mastery food, mastery elixir and raid buffs add a substantial amount of CTC. They may have the trinket with stacking dodge rating, they may be Night Elves (don't forget their bonus 2% CTC).
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  10. #330
    Quote Originally Posted by thehordemage View Post
    well I see very few that actually meet 102.4
    Are you certain they don't reach 102.4%? In LFR last weekend, I got accused of being a bad because I have some stamina gems, but I informed them that I'm CTC. So unless you've checked their armories and are certain they aren't using the right buffs/food/elixirs, I wouldn't be so sure of your claim.

  11. #331
    Just dropping by with the CTC vs stamina subject.

    There is one fight, in heroic DS, where you would consider dropping the CTC cap. And that is madness heroic. The reasons are; Too much in-mitigable damage. Otherwise you always want to have the CTC cap.

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    Hey guys,

    I'm not quite sure but what would be the best trinket combo for heroic warmaster? I really am not sure. I also received heroic SSV yesterday but have not regemmed for it.

  13. #333
    I did my gearing around MoBI and using resist/mastery elixers. I then maximized stamina via gemming, 2nd trinket, etc. There is a lot of shadow damage in P2 and I found the extra resistance to be useful for goriona and the splash damage from the healing debuff.

  14. #334
    Quote Originally Posted by MorphexEU View Post
    Just dropping by with the CTC vs stamina subject.

    There is one fight, in heroic DS, where you would consider dropping the CTC cap. And that is madness heroic. The reasons are; Too much in-mitigable damage. Otherwise you always want to have the CTC cap.
    well hagara too, his melee is pretty lame but focus attack ticks 50k every 0.5sec

  15. #335
    Isn't droping the ctc an option for yor'sahj too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smn View Post
    Isn't droping the ctc an option for yor'sahj too?
    Yes, if it can increase significantly your EH.
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  17. #337
    OK this is like the biggest noob question ever, but when you got 102,4% total avoidance without shield block (block, dodge, parry, miss), why do you still use shield block anyways?

    I mean you cant avoid more than the cap, right?

    Sorry for the super dumb question

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewax View Post
    OK this is like the biggest noob question ever, but when you got 102,4% total avoidance without shield block (block, dodge, parry, miss), why do you still use shield block anyways?

    I mean you cant avoid more than the cap, right?

    Sorry for the super dumb question
    Check the tooltip of Shield Block for your answer. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewax View Post
    OK this is like the biggest noob question ever, but when you got 102,4% total avoidance without shield block (block, dodge, parry, miss), why do you still use shield block anyways?

    I mean you cant avoid more than the cap, right?

    Sorry for the super dumb question
    Any avoidance/mitigation above 102.4 gets converted to ciritical block for warriors. Critical block stops 2x the damage of regular block, or 60%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mest View Post
    Check the tooltip of Shield Block for your answer. :-)
    see, i knew it was a dumb question

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