Flying In The Next Expansion

[Adhal-Blackrock]

Last I remember flying was a choice.

If you feel that riding gives you immersion then ride on cowboy, no one is stopping you.

Just don't try to make blizz force this on those of us that would rather fly.

P.S. If Frodo could have rode a Giant eagle to Mount Doom I'm sure he would have.

[chrisisvacant]

I think it's a good idea.

---------- Post added 2011-10-14 at 11:32 AM ----------

Last I remember flying was a choice.

If you feel that riding gives you immersion then ride on cowboy, no one is stopping you.

Just don't try to make blizz force this on those of us that would rather fly.

P.S. If Frodo could have rode a Giant eagle to Mount Doom I'm sure he would have.

But he could have and he didn't, actually.

[Deleted]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Deepholm the only zone that actually required flying?
I distinctly remember passages up mountains, chokepoints, normal roads, etc. in all other zones...

Hyjal had ledges and what not requiring flight

Uldum had temples and mountains requiring flight

Highlands also had areas requiring flight

So no it isn't a choice

[Kisho]

I have this theory where I believe Blizzard wish they never implemented Flying mounts in the first place.

Sure, at the time they seemed like a great idea. They're really fun and entertaining. Now, though? It's exactly as the OP says: they remove you from the world. There is no danger, no excitement. Imagine the Molten Front.

The Molten Front is a warzone. There is always a battle being fought. The Druids are struggling to hold their ground; it's up to us to lead the charge and fight through the seemingly endless waves of elementals. We mount up, let loose a battle cry, and charge headfirst into the fray. We fight tooth and nail for every scrap of land we can get; we save the lives of the Druids who were caught behind enemy lines; we fight to win the war.

Imagine if flying mounts were allowed in the Molten Front. There'd be no sense of conflict or danger whatsoever: you'd mount up, hop over to the next Druid, pick them up and immediately jump up and fly to the next objective. You wouldn't be in the thick of the battle: you'd be seperated. No immersion whatsoever.

There have been times in the Molten Front where I spent far too long just charging between elementals on my Warrior, killing way more than I need to. Or on my Hunter, I spend more time taking down the enormous Molten Behemoths just because I can. Because it all helps. Because we're fighting a war. If we were able to simply fly over it all, I'd never have been able to get that immersed into the story.

There's also little things, like Achievements. Think of King of Spider Hill: if flying mounts were allowed that would never have been able to be implemented. Nor would the area leading up to the Phoenix area, nor the mountain itself. It wouldn't have felt nearly as epic to reach the peak of the mountain, only to quickly rush back down as you flee from the Phoenix Matriarch (or whatever she's called). Sure, these are minor things, but it all adds up. It all helps with the immersion.

Flying mounts have their place. But I would've loved to see them implemented like the Seahorse in Vashj'ir: restricted to a single zone that is designed for flying mounts. For example, Storm Peaks is a zone that works brilliantly with a flying mount, as is Icecrown. We'd be given a gryphon to fly around those zones, but for the rest we'd be stuck on foot.

There's so much that could have been, if only flying mounts never existed. So much that Blizzard could do, but now cannot because removing flyers would cause such a backlash from the community. It's a shame that we're missing out.

[munkeyinorbit]

I hate not being able to fly. Stop trying to make life harder. "I like to ride my bike to work, lets get rid of cars". Just shut your mouths and use your ground mounts. Stop trying to ruin my quality of game because you were bored of cata leveling.

[Deleted]

I hate not being able to fly. Stop trying to make life harder. "I like to ride my bike to work, lets get rid of cars". Just shut your mouths and use your ground mounts. Stop trying to ruin my quality of game because you were bored of cata leveling.

Please read the whole thread

---------- Post added 2011-10-14 at 12:40 PM ----------

Seiously I don't remember people complaining about no flight while questing back in Vanilla TBC & Wrath...

[nomadwgk]

no thx, I rather fly my ass everywhere.

[Deleted]

Flying is useful for gathering and getting from A to B but when it comes to questing it takes away the involvement, infact flying mounts in questing is a bit like Frodo hopping on a giant eagle and flying over to Mt Doom and dropping the ring before returning to the Shire and buying apples for 5 silver and selling 'em for 10 silver for hours!

I really love your analogy! It fits perfectly.

The old system with riding till you reach the max-level for that area is better imo. But of course the questing areas need to be reworked.

Some Quest are really easy/fast if you can fly. Gathering quests are a joke (especially as druid). Just land behind enemy lines, pick up without a fight and fly on. To get the old feeling back they now use escort quests which force you to travel on ground level.

[Deleted]

Cata leveling would of taken so much longer on ground mounts, i mean, can you imagine running around in uldum? Would take days lol
You never know, when they make the next x-pac, they may make smaller zones for ground mounting about because i agree i used to love running around being amazed by stuff that these days you wouldnt pay attention to

[Synstir]

Because as I said it's impossible to quest in Hyjal, Deepholm, Uldum and Twilight Highlands without flying

This still doesn't mean you can't use groundmounts at all.. this just means that you have to fly for a very very short distance....
Now we're in the margins :-)
You can do most of your travels in these areas without flying.

I like to fly whereever and whenever I can. I get a more epic feeling flying to some point on a dragon or some other cool mount then running to it or riding a horse to it. Just my personal opinion and liking.

[Sojourner]

Flying should be disabled until first content patch that is released post-release of the new expansion (i.e. patch 5.1). There is too much good stuff on the ground level (places, views, items, various environmental details, and even world PvP) to allow people to skip it by flying on day one.

[Deleted]

Cata leveling would of taken so much longer on ground mounts, i mean, can you imagine running around in uldum? Would take days lol
You never know, when they make the next x-pac, they may make smaller zones for ground mounting about because i agree i used to love running around being amazed by stuff that these days you wouldnt pay attention to

#True but then Uldum was designed for flying

[munkeyinorbit]

I read the thread. A bunch of people moaning that they didnt get the immersion they neede because they flew every where. No flying mounts in vanilla. You had to be 70 to fly in BC, it was a reward for getting to 70 and lots of people moaned about no flying till 77 AND having to pay for the right to fly in wrath. It's as if you've never played the game. Stop trying to ruin my quality of game because you got bored of cata leveling.

[Deleted]

This still doesn't mean you can't use groundmounts at all.. this just means that you have to fly for a very very short distance....
Now we're in the margins :-)
You can do most of your travels in these areas without flying.

Quest between 80-85 on ground mount only then tell me this

[squid]

Why should Blizzard do that?
If you find it an epic feeling to explore everything on groundmounts, why don't you just that?

Because I cant Ambush you on your Drake of the West Wind. Flying mounts are lame.

[Deleted]

I read the thread. A bunch of people moaning that they didnt get the immersion they neede because they flew every where. No flying mounts in vanilla. You had to be 70 to fly in BC, it was a reward for getting to 70 and lots of people moaned about no flying till 77 AND having to pay for the right to fly in wrath. It's as if you've never played the game. Stop trying to ruin my quality of game because you got bored of cata leveling.

I don't get this point, we had to pay in Cataclysm too

[Duckstruck]

I don't want to stealth around everywhere so i would much rather take a flying mount.

[Balthazare]

#True but then Uldum was designed for flying

Yes some quests in the areas required you to be able to fly yourself there.

But imagine the complaining people would have made if there were all kinds of NPC griffons/eng machines/etc to ferry their sorry, land-ridden bodies around.

You're still stuck with ground mounts for 60/85 levels...I don't see what the issue is here.

Besides, with the numbers of people beggaring in /2 for gold so they can buy their Flight Master's License, it's completely possible that people are still carting around on ground mounts. And don't ask me how people cannot honestly save up the 200g (AMG!!!!1!!!) for it...lol

[gunchix]

In the next expansion.

During the events after Deathwings defeat, your character suffered a head trauma, and has now amnesia. He/she can't remember where he put the keys to his stable, and because of that can't use any mounts at all. Flying paths are being removed and you have to run around on foot (hooves if you're a draenei or tauren of course) until you reach level 95.

[Synstir]

Because I cant Ambush you on your Drake of the West Wind. Flying mounts are lame.

Didn't think of this, because i don't do this. But I get it... it takes away an aspect of the game a lot of people enjoy.

Maybe Blizzard should make it possible to pvp on mounts :-)
I would love that.