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  1. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by IpAriaHI View Post
    Hey guys, I'm really hoping for some help analyzing my logs and figuring out what I'm doing wrong in my rotation.

    I have gone though the Fury Sticky and posted a few things trying to fix my problem, but I still end up with horribly low DPS. I starting out with this general rotation...

    Bloodthirst - Fill - Fill - Bloodthirst using Colossus smash whenever it was up and throwing in some Heroic strikes if I had high rage. Using this rotation I had lower DPS than I feel I should and often ended up with very low rage to the point that I could not get fillers (wild strike most of the time because of low enrage uptime) at times.

    WHen posting to try to fix this problem I was told to stop using WIld strike when not on a Bloodsurge proc and pool rage close to the cap (only using unmodified WS to bleed rage to avoid capping) and dump everything into a Colossus Smash Debuff. My problem is that my DPS is often the same if not less using this method because of low enrage uptimes (not very many Raging blows) and not very many Bloodsurge procs. I sometimes end up with a rotation that is literally BT - Wait - BT - Wait -BT - Wait - Colossus smash - WS+HS -WS+HS - WS+HS -BT -Wait, ... That is to say that I wont get an enrage or BLoodsurge 1 time in between Colossus smashes, thus I have nothing to do for long periods of time besides perhaps MAYBE using something to bleed rage if im getting close to capping.

    At this point I'm getting higher DPS by a few thousand on my rogue that his 90 a day ago and is still in greens with a few heroic 5 man items.

    Here's My log
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/4xxcaplixv81n8cx/

    Here's My Armory:
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...C3%AFah/simple

    Ilvl: 466 Equipped

    DPS is around 3300 on a test dummy. I've been told I should be getting 40-50k on a test dummy. I really have no idea what I'm doing wrong and I really want to be able to fix my problem. For enchants and stuff I dont have the most gold on my new server so I have windsong on my weapons as I'm not really willing to dump 5k a pop on the better enchant on blue weapons; same deal with the wrist enchant).
    Can anyone help? I'm really hoping to get my problem solved soon. Thanks

  2. #382
    Sadly I'm in a hurry right now and can't look at your log but some points I've seen in your armory:

    You only have 1 valor point item (i know dailies suck but once you have it, it's over) and do some pvp for easy acces to ilevel 483 items. Don't forget to run the 2nd part of LFR either!

    EDIT: A log over 22 seconds makes it impossible to say anything
    Last edited by meteo; 2012-11-03 at 04:50 PM.

  3. #383
    The log should be over 5 minutes, I'll upload another if it's not correct.

  4. #384
    How am I doing this is what I get around on a dummy between 80-84k on a dummy without any buffs except for Flask/Food buff.
    Current item level = 476
    Srength=14300
    Mastery=17.26
    Attack Power=28850
    Haste=2.34%
    Hit=+7.56%
    Crit= 20.63%
    Expertise=7.50%/7.50%

    Weapons Starshatter 489 / bluesword 463

    This parse I logged is about 6 minutes with aprox 30-45s Executes. I used the target dummy in icecrown because its the only dummy I can think of you can use execute on. I didn't do any HL, due that these dummies have a small hitbox. I'd like to hear any feedback / improvements I could make on this based off this parse.

    Parse#1
    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/yl4c7...um/damageDone/

    Parse#2 (didnt log that)
    Debuff uptime


    buff uptime


    damage
    Last edited by Sephrius; 2012-11-04 at 04:05 PM.

  5. #385
    This is a link to our best attempt on Garalon. I'm trying to help our warrior improve his DPS and get a better understanding of why he's pulling 85k DPS, despite other warriors being able to pull massive amounts more.

    He does have 463 weapons, but does that really make or break him here? Any feedback would be great, thanks!

    That said, please note there are other issues we have with our attempts on this fight, which I'm taking care of separately.

    WoL
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=2884&e=3226

    Armory
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ammer/advanced

  6. #386
    I didn't look at the logs but his Crit is abysmally low. The SNT 5 man boots are better than his current ones, he should get the 476 chest crafted, do some PVP for crit/exp bracers or get the August Celestial bracers, buy the BoE Crit/Haste cloak, buy a Relic of Xuen, do some more PvP for the PvP legs, and ask him why he bought the Klaxxi neck which is terrible over the belt, which is good. 170 str to gloves and also get the PvP neck and/or ring to replace his current items. Overall I'd say he doesn't know what he is doing in regards to his gearing.

    He missed a Blood Bath, a Blood Fury, did not prepot or use a pot, period and due to his crit his enrage uptime is really low (40%).
    Last edited by Freedom; 2012-11-06 at 07:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehdi View Post
    This is a link to our best attempt on Garalon. I'm trying to help our warrior improve his DPS and get a better understanding of why he's pulling 85k DPS, despite other warriors being able to pull massive amounts more.

    He does have 463 weapons, but does that really make or break him here? Any feedback would be great, thanks!

    That said, please note there are other issues we have with our attempts on this fight, which I'm taking care of separately.

    WoL
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=2884&e=3226

    Armory
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ammer/advanced

    Tell him to go Arms and pick up Storm Bolt. As Arms, make sure he keeps up sweeping strikes only while attacking the legs and this goes for popping CDs as well because you get the 100% increased damage from being in their blue circle. Since sweeping strikes mimics 50% of the damage done to the leg and applies it to the boss, you're basically killing two birds with one stone by letting warriors and rogues attack the legs. Storm Bolt is better because 1) the legs don't generally last long enough for you to get benefit from the entire Avatar buff and 2) Bloodbath doesn't apply to the second target via Sweeping Strikes where as 50% of SB damage is done to the boss.

  8. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    I didn't look at the logs but his Crit is abysmally low. The SNT 5 man boots are better than his current ones, he should get the 476 chest crafted, do some PVP for crit/exp bracers or get the August Celestial bracers, buy the BoE Crit/Haste cloak, buy a Relic of Xuen, do some more PvP for the PvP legs, and ask him why he bought the Klaxxi neck which is terrible over the belt, which is good. 170 str to gloves and also get the PvP neck and/or ring to replace his current items. Overall I'd say he doesn't know what he is doing in regards to his gearing.

    He missed a Blood Bath, a Blood Fury, did not prepot or use a pot, period and due to his crit his enrage uptime is really low (40%).
    I really appreciate the quick feedback. I just took a dive into his gear selection and using AskMrRobot for a quick and dirty look, I'm mildly raging inside right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rustynip View Post
    Tell him to go Arms and pick up Storm Bolt. As Arms, make sure he keeps up sweeping strikes only while attacking the legs and this goes for popping CDs as well because you get the 100% increased damage from being in their blue circle. Since sweeping strikes mimics 50% of the damage done to the leg and applies it to the boss, you're basically killing two birds with one stone by letting warriors and rogues attack the legs. Storm Bolt is better because 1) the legs don't generally last long enough for you to get benefit from the entire Avatar buff and 2) Bloodbath doesn't apply to the second target via Sweeping Strikes where as 50% of SB damage is done to the boss.
    Given his current gear selection, the only thing I can think of, is that he was gearing Arms but playing Fury. Generally speaking, which of the two specs is the most viable in a 10m raid setting? ( I'm not sure why I'm doing his homework right now, but I need to keep my raid moving until this problem is fixed one way or another ).

    Thanks for the feedback.

  9. #389
    Uh, that gearing is even worse for Arms, Haste is just as bad for Arms as Fury. I mean, you get more csmash procs, but... like, a tiny bit.
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  10. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by Rustynip View Post
    Tell him to go Arms and pick up Storm Bolt. As Arms, make sure he keeps up sweeping strikes only while attacking the legs and this goes for popping CDs as well because you get the 100% increased damage from being in their blue circle. Since sweeping strikes mimics 50% of the damage done to the leg and applies it to the boss, you're basically killing two birds with one stone by letting warriors and rogues attack the legs. Storm Bolt is better because 1) the legs don't generally last long enough for you to get benefit from the entire Avatar buff and 2) Bloodbath doesn't apply to the second target via Sweeping Strikes where as 50% of SB damage is done to the boss.
    Wow, SB really applies to Sweeping Strikes and Bloodbath doesnt? Really didn't know that, nice info

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Uh, that gearing is even worse for Arms, Haste is just as bad for Arms as Fury. I mean, you get more csmash procs, but... like, a tiny bit.
    Recent sims showing haste is better than mastery for arms, maybe it's bugged or something but we will see what happens..
    Last edited by tankz0; 2012-11-08 at 08:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehdi View Post
    I really appreciate the quick feedback. I just took a dive into his gear selection and using AskMrRobot for a quick and dirty look, I'm mildly raging inside right now.



    Given his current gear selection, the only thing I can think of, is that he was gearing Arms but playing Fury. Generally speaking, which of the two specs is the most viable in a 10m raid setting? ( I'm not sure why I'm doing his homework right now, but I need to keep my raid moving until this problem is fixed one way or another ).

    Thanks for the feedback.
    Because I didn't know where to find this until now. Let me take care of my own crap, now that I understand where to look on the forums you can go away while I fix stuff.



    Moving on, My armory and gear have changed significantly, to where I went out and got more gear with heavier crit on them. Could my improvements be evaluated and given more critic? I'd also like to know if my highest hitting two-hander (the Malev axe) Would be better in arms for the Garalon 10m fight, compared to fury. Despite the CDs of BB, And Avatar, would I still be coming out with better damage output? Thanks.

    (My armory is linked above in Mehdi's previous post, I can't link stuff quite yet because of my new account. Jackhammer - Korgath)

  12. #392
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerofJack View Post
    Because I didn't know where to find this until now. Let me take care of my own crap, now that I understand where to look on the forums you can go away while I fix stuff.



    Moving on, My armory and gear have changed significantly, to where I went out and got more gear with heavier crit on them. Could my improvements be evaluated and given more critic? I'd also like to know if my highest hitting two-hander (the Malev axe) Would be better in arms for the Garalon 10m fight, compared to fury. Despite the CDs of BB, And Avatar, would I still be coming out with better damage output? Thanks.

    (My armory is linked above in Mehdi's previous post, I can't link stuff quite yet because of my new account. Jackhammer - Korgath)
    Don't worry, I'll get our of your way seeing as this is no longer our problem. I wish you the best of luck in your future, and hope you figure things out.

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    It was MY problem. That was slowing down other people. If fixing things on my own is a problem, then I'm sorry you can't see that and then go on a pms outrage. I hope you learn not to be so sensi.

  14. #394
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerofJack View Post
    Because I didn't know where to find this until now. Let me take care of my own crap, now that I understand where to look on the forums you can go away while I fix stuff.



    Moving on, My armory and gear have changed significantly, to where I went out and got more gear with heavier crit on them. Could my improvements be evaluated and given more critic? I'd also like to know if my highest hitting two-hander (the Malev axe) Would be better in arms for the Garalon 10m fight, compared to fury. Despite the CDs of BB, And Avatar, would I still be coming out with better damage output? Thanks.

    (My armory is linked above in Mehdi's previous post, I can't link stuff quite yet because of my new account. Jackhammer - Korgath)
    You didnt know where to find this stuff? Or, you mean you didnt bother to look.

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    Doesn't answer any of what I asked. Thanks anyway.

  16. #396
    If you are on the same server why not keep your drama there?

    On topic, you still do not have all your pieces you can reforge to crit on reforged to crit.
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  17. #397
    I would like some help in improving my dps. I have been mainly tanking but as of MoP I'm being now dpsing a lot more. I can sometimes keep up with our other warrior who is fury but all of his abilities just seem to be hitting a lot harder and once execute phase comes along he blows me out of the water.

    I use slamandawe addon for rotation helping, but more often than not I have nothing to do so I toss in WW or HS as a filler and then it seems to mess wtih my rage, maybe I should pool my rage more. Should i go back to arms? Raid buffed I'm around 25% crit.

    One of last nights attempts: worldoflogs.com/reports/en9coge9bhbgy2wp/details/24/?s=883&e=1366 <me
    him worldoflogs.com/reports/en9coge9bhbgy2wp/details/117/?s=2825&e=3315
    My armory
    blackrock/Sm%c3%a3llp%c3%a3ckage/advanced Yes , I know I'm over hit and exp, I was testing out the oh vs my Ooks slicer offhand. I try to follow the standard fury rotation CS>BT>hopefully enragned if not pop BR and then RB. Since WS hits like a wet noddle, should i be using more WW instead of WS? I save BR if i have a gap of nothing to do so i can get a RB proc.

    Here is a full log of 25m stone guard if that helps. Thanks for any help, advise.

    worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-l04h45z1ujbcsfgt/sum/damageDone/?s=3431&e=3750
    Last edited by smallpackage; 2012-11-09 at 08:40 PM.

  18. #398
    Hi, I would appreciate some advice on my dps.

    Our guild has had a very slow start on MSV and I got a chance to do a progression raid with them today (we killed the Spirit Kings). I know it may seem pretty sad to be this early on in this raid as so many seem to have cleared it quite easily, but this is about my dps, not my guilds progression :P

    Anyways! I topped the meters in a few of our encounters and topping after finally killing the Spirit Kings, however, my dps seemed pretty low from what I've seen in LFR, WOL data and on these forums. I can't compare myself to anyone else in the guild as I'm the only warrior currently raiding with them, so that's why I'm resorting to posting this to try and improve myself with your assistance

    I'm Fury specced and have only been playing this spec for about a week, as I was tank for the most part until I started gearing up to get some raiding done as I enjoyed my Rogue and Fury seemed fun to try (which I've been thoroughly enjoying!). I'm unaware of our guild having any WOL, but on the Spirit Kings I was pulling 45-53k dps, with about 13-15% of the damage being from execute. To me, this seems quite low and would love to know how to improve it further, I use the common rotation of BT > CS > RB (twice if both BT and CS critted - if neither crits I'd use rage CD) > Procced WS - rinse repeat, I feel I work my other cooldown's pretty well, however I'm unsure if there the best and if others are better. I haven't tried arms, but Fury just appealed to me more at the time!

    My armoury is - eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/earthen-ring/En%C3%ADgma/simple


    Any help is appreciated, I just want to improve I know it's hard without WOL, but I've tried my best to mention the important stuff, feel free to ask me anything else though if you need too!

    What sort of dps am I meant to be aiming for/getting in my current gear though?


    Many Thanks

  19. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrius View Post
    How am I doing this is what I get around on a dummy between 80-84k on a dummy without any buffs except for Flask/Food buff.
    Current item level = 476
    Srength=14300
    Mastery=17.26
    Attack Power=28850
    Haste=2.34%
    Hit=+7.56%
    Crit= 20.63%
    Expertise=7.50%/7.50%

    Weapons Starshatter 489 / bluesword 463

    This parse I logged is about 6 minutes with aprox 30-45s Executes. I used the target dummy in icecrown because its the only dummy I can think of you can use execute on. I didn't do any HL, due that these dummies have a small hitbox. I'd like to hear any feedback / improvements I could make on this based off this parse.

    Parse#1
    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/yl4c7...um/damageDone/

    Parse#2 (didnt log that)
    Debuff uptime


    buff uptime


    damage
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    You need to provide a log that's from a current content boss. Go do an LFR or something because doing dps to a dummy that is 10 levels lower than you doesn't really give and accurate display of DPS.

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