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  1. #61
    You'll be using HS alot more in raid environment. A good idea to use inner rage is right after a DC or when you're at 70+ rage and anticipating a damage spike (i.e. a trap is about to explode on Raggy), or when you're at 70+ rage and BT procs.
    Yeah, use BT procs on heroic strikes.
    quit

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Azunaii View Post
    Also, was wondering what to spend a BT proc on. HS?
    Always HS, unless you only have ~30 rage and want to RB.

  3. #63
    Hi there,

    I am a tank switching to fury, haven't played in ages but i feel that i can be more valuable playing this spec to the max as well.

    This is a log from our Baleroc kill. I'm on the bottom sadly.

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=11375&e=11631

    I had flask + food up and prepotted.
    As far as my gear is concerned I hope / think I don't have any major flaws and should be pushing a bit more with my current gear.

    Anyone willing to take a looks and give me some pointers?
    Here's my armory:

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Optii/advanced
    Thanks
    Last edited by Optii; 2011-11-19 at 11:09 PM.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Optii View Post
    Hi there,

    I am a tank switching to fury, haven't played in ages but i feel that i can be more valuable playing this spec to the max as well.

    This is a log from our Baleroc kill. I'm on the bottom sadly.

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=11375&e=11631

    I had flask + food up and prepotted.
    As far as my gear is concerned I hope / think I don't have any major flaws and should be pushing a bit more with my current gear.

    Anyone willing to take a looks and give me some pointers?
    Here's my armory:

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Optii/advanced

    Thanks
    Both your links are broken.

    Tried to Armory "Optii" got a 85 warrior on sylvanas, but was in tank gear.

  5. #65
    Hmm i fixed it. The one on Sylvanas is me, relogged in Fury gear now

  6. #66
    You seem to favor Haste in your reforges for some reason?
    The stat weight for TG is:
    Strength>Hit (8%)>Expertise(26)>Crit>Hit>Mastery>Haste

    Reforge:
    Helmet: Haste -> Crit
    Neck: Expertise -> Hit
    Shoulders: Haste -> Hit
    Chest: Hit -> Expertise
    Bracers: Haste -> Hit
    Belt: Unreforge
    Boots: Haste -> Expertise
    Alysrazor's Band: Haste -> Crit
    Main-Hand: Haste -> Crit

    Looking at your logs, you don't use Bloodthirst enough.

    During your 04:15 long baleroc kill. In that timespan you should be able to do 85 Bloodthirsts.
    However you only did 68.

    Same for Colossus Smash. 12 Available, 10 used.

  7. #67

    Help

    I am a Fury warrior. My ilvl is 379 as can be seen here, us.battle.net /wow/en/character/scarlet-crusade/Connal/advanced

    I am struggling getting my dps up as most fights I am barley above the tanks. While the other warriors are doing much better.

    This is the Logs from the last raid I was in, worldoflogs /reports/3quwkpqm3e1fyiqh/

    I was passed up by a tryout fury warrior with much lesser gear at the time. And now that warrior is in the guild, I have lost my position, so I need help. I follow the rotation, I have all my gear gemmed and enchanted according to Mr Robot. I have been playing warrior for over 6 years now, and this is the first time I have done so poorly on dps. I am at my wits end, everyday I am on the dummy working on my rotation, but unbuffed the best I do is 18k. I need help badly.

    If there is any more information needed, I will do my best to get it.

    First post so it would not let me post links
    Last edited by SuperNaturalX; 2011-11-21 at 07:22 PM.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperNaturalX View Post
    I am a Fury warrior. My ilvl is 7379 as can be seen here, us.battle.net /wow/en/character/scarlet-crusade/Connal/advanced

    I am struggling getting my dps up as most fights I am barley above the tanks. While the other warriors are doing much better.

    This is the Logs from the last raid I was in, worldoflogs /reports/3quwkpqm3e1fyiqh/

    I was passed up by a tryout fury warrior with much lesser gear at the time. And now that warrior is in the guild, I have lost my position, so I need help. I follow the rotation, I have all my gear gemmed and enchanted according to Mr Robot. I have been playing warrior for over 6 years now, and this is the first time I have done so poorly on dps. I am at my wits end, everyday I am on the dummy working on my rotation, but unbuffed the best I do is 18k. I need help badly.

    If there is any more information needed, I will do my best to get it.

    First post so it would not let me post links
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/3...?s=5540&e=5759

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...onnal/advanced

    - Enchanting/reforging/gemming Fine. However your rotation seems way of. Follow a BT - filler - BT rotation. Fillers include, in order of priority, CS> RB > slam> BS. Dont ever miss a BT. Would go more in detail but I'm a bit busy atm

  9. #69
    Yes, worked on my rotation more last night and used BT every time it was up. Did see minor improvement.

  10. #70
    Hey there. Lately, I've been thinking that my performance isn't what it should be with my current gear. I have the feeling that I'm always doing less Damage/DPS than I should on every fight as when I compare myself to other Warriors or other classes with similar gear, I seem to always be falling behind. I even spent my last 18k on the BoE trinket in order to upgrade it to 391 since I had a Crystallized Firestone just to be ready at the start of the raid, and of course it would drop... :s But still, I seem to be falling behind.

    I also noticed that even on a target dummy, I always seem to be doing not enough BTs. I have no clue how this happens on the target dummy, at least.

    Here is my armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...amica/advanced

    And here is last night's combat log: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/pkdoa8751jpamnuu/
    Last edited by Penegal; 2011-11-24 at 10:52 AM.

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Penegal View Post
    Hey there. Lately, I've been thinking that my performance isn't what it should be with my current gear. I have the feeling that I'm always doing less Damage/DPS than I should on every fight as when I compare myself to other Warriors or other classes with similar gear, I seem to always be falling behind. I even spent my last 18k on the BoE trinket in order to upgrade it to 391 since I had a Crystallized Firestone just to be ready at the start of the raid, and of course it would drop... :s But still, I seem to be falling behind.

    I also noticed that even on a target dummy, I always seem to be doing not enough BTs. I have no clue how this happens on the target dummy, at least.

    Here is my armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...amica/advanced

    And here is last night's combat log: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/pkdoa8751jpamnuu/
    Gems.
    You missing one socket bonus, your belt. Get a 20Str/20Hit in it.

    Weapons
    Do you not have access to Obsidium Cleavers by any chance?
    They would be quite an upgrade to your 359 two-handers.

    Reforge
    Chest: Unreforge
    Alysrazor's Band: Haste -> Crit
    VP Ring: Haste -> Expertise
    Thrown: Expertise -> Crit

    Logs
    You already mentioned missing out on BT's.

    All I can tell you is practice. Practice practice practice.

    What I like to do when practicing rotation, is going to a lvl 60 dummy.
    That way, you don't have to deal with misses.
    Just sit and do your rotation. BT -> CS -> BT -> Filler -> BT -> Filler -> BT ... ... ... BT -> CS -> BT
    I think you get it
    Last edited by Quenios; 2011-11-25 at 04:01 PM.

  12. #72
    I have no chance in hell to get the Obsidium Cleavers. I'm as poor as a rat :P Fixed the bonus. Seems All I have left is practice.

  13. #73

    Help

    Dear,

    The forum does not allow posting links, my nickname is Rednoze

    Currently I'm fury and I get to 20 to 21k DPS, but Bloodthirst -> Colossus Smash -> Bloodthirst -> Raging Blow* -> Bloodthirst -> Free GCD -> Bloodthirst -> Raging Blow. I see other warriors rotation gear with less and doing more dps and do not understand why.

    Currently Golemblood use potion and Beer-basted Crocolisk

  14. #74
    Tonight my guild reached Ultraxion for the first time and I underperformed to the point it was embarrassing.
    I'm going to be dead honest and say I have no idea how to work WoL so if I've linked the wrong forgive me: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-d7...l2f/details/4/

    A link to my armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...d/Kraai/simple

    While I'm currently in the process of learning how to keybind my DPS was never this bad during Firelands and I managed to keep up with the rest of the group with little issues. I'm holding around 18-23k DPS depending on the fight and pull.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Kraai View Post
    Tonight my guild reached Ultraxion for the first time and I underperformed to the point it was embarrassing.
    I'm going to be dead honest and say I have no idea how to work WoL so if I've linked the wrong forgive me: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-d7...l2f/details/4/

    A link to my armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...d/Kraai/simple

    While I'm currently in the process of learning how to keybind my DPS was never this bad during Firelands and I managed to keep up with the rest of the group with little issues. I'm holding around 18-23k DPS depending on the fight and pull.
    You delay too many Bloodthirsts. You should always Bloodthirst every other GCD.

    Going through the logs you seem to delay some Bloodthirsts, using other abilities in between, not using anything or just using the Bloodthirst half a second or almost up to a second too late. Do you have lag or high latency? Do you starve yourself on rage with Heroic Strikes? Or do you simply not spam buttons fast enough? Whichever the case - practice on always using Bloodthirst as every second GCD. It should increase your DPS by a notable amount.

    I suspect rage may be a factor here, practice storing your rage and try to limit your Heroic Strikes to when Colossus Smash is up. It's far better to overcap some rage every now and than than delaying your GCD abilities because you used a Heroic Strike when you shouldn't and had a white swing miss.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Mest View Post
    You delay too many Bloodthirsts. You should always Bloodthirst every other GCD.

    Going through the logs you seem to delay some Bloodthirsts, using other abilities in between, not using anything or just using the Bloodthirst half a second or almost up to a second too late. Do you have lag or high latency? Do you starve yourself on rage with Heroic Strikes? Or do you simply not spam buttons fast enough? Whichever the case - practice on always using Bloodthirst as every second GCD. It should increase your DPS by a notable amount.

    I suspect rage may be a factor here, practice storing your rage and try to limit your Heroic Strikes to when Colossus Smash is up. It's far better to overcap some rage every now and than than delaying your GCD abilities because you used a Heroic Strike when you shouldn't and had a white swing miss.
    Earlier tonight/this morning I sat at a dummy and pretty much decided to not even touch Heroic Strike unless I had 80+ rage or Incite.
    I did 4k more DPS - Which pretty much found me my problem. It does appear to be a rage issue.

    Some of the delays were most likely caused by my tourettes. My arm tends to spasm and during that second I really can't do anything unless I risk popping cooldowns at the wrong time.

    For CS should I be going:
    BT - CS - BT - RB - SL [If Proc'd] - HS - BT?

    Also - Is it best to ignore Incite and just let it do it's job when capable or is it best to track it somehow to proc Flurry?

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Kraai View Post
    Also - Is it best to ignore Incite and just let it do it's job when capable or is it best to track it somehow to proc Flurry?
    Ideally you want to Incite when Flurry isn't up. Or, hell, ideally you only want to Heroic Strike when Flurry isn't up, but that's not necessarily something you can affect as it's very RNG dependant and making sure not to overcap rage nor use rage too early is probably a better idea anyway.

    It's always worth tracking Incite, as a critical Heroic Strike is worth more than most other abilities so letting it expire would be a waste. It should be better to risk delaying or even missing an RB GCD than to miss an Incite proc.

    And regarding CS; no, always use BT as every other GCD.

  18. #78
    Just swapped my warrior over to fury from prot, it's in pretty bad shape but its a start! http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Nasirr/simple

    My question is, should I be using 2x Obsidium cleavers in SMF, or swap to TG with the 378s from the new heroics: http://www.wowhead.com/item=72814 + http://www.wowhead.com/item=72844

    Slowly working on the rest of my gear, gems, reforging, and enchants... but not going crazy since this is an alt that has almost no shot of DS outside of LFR and afraid to join any FL pugs.

    Landsouls spreadsheet isn't working for me with openoffice so until I get some version of excel I'm at a loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    Just swapped my warrior over to fury from prot, it's in pretty bad shape but its a start! http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Nasirr/simple

    My question is, should I be using 2x Obsidium cleavers in SMF, or swap to TG with the 378s from the new heroics: http://www.wowhead.com/item=72814 + http://www.wowhead.com/item=72844

    Slowly working on the rest of my gear, gems, reforging, and enchants... but not going crazy since this is an alt that has almost no shot of DS outside of LFR and afraid to join any FL pugs.

    Landsouls spreadsheet isn't working for me with openoffice so until I get some version of excel I'm at a loss.
    SMF/TG is a style choice and when you're talking about weapons of equal item level there isn't going to be a titanic damage difference between either pair. TG still sims higher, particularly if you plan on getting the T12 (4) set.

    On your gear aside from the obvious resi changes, I'd consider getting License to Slay with Justice points as a priority. Much superior to your current trinkets and easily acquired.

  20. #80
    i dont get it anymore, we still do firelands due our druid is still on the legendary staff quest and normally i pull 27k+ dps on bosses ( what i still ofund low for my gear ) bt now like beloroc 22 k, rag 17.... k i play like u used to be b4 i dont get it anymore my guild even asked if it was possible if u could reroll another class ;(

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...mondogg/simple

    and no we use no logs we are just a casual 10 man guild =)

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