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    PVE and PVP specc?

    Hey guys, been away from WoW for a while now and im just wondering what have changed?

    Last time I played, gladiator was awesome in PVP while fury was the spec to for in PVE but I saw some changes in the fury tree (Avatar buff etc).

    What is the spec to go for atm for PVP and PVE?

    Links are appreciated

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    You can't really answer this question easily... In fact Arms & Fury are pretty much on par in PvE
    ... and in PvP the answer heavily depends on your team Comp. In a pressure composition like WLD Arms outshines fury.. In a Comp where you mostly support and control like KFC Gladiator has its moments and in a Comp where you burst a lot like WMD the Fury spec is the best.

    Just try to learn every Spec of your class and adjust. Because you can mostly forget about Gladiator in PvE I consider it the spec the most irrelevant though

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    Gladiator lost its viability in PvP since they nerfed the Shieldbash glyph.
    Gladiator is outperformed by Fury in singletarget PvE situations and vastly outperformed by both, Fury and Arms in aoe PvE situations.
    Fury is playable in PvP. It is discussable if it is en par, better or worse then Arms but is has potential to burst. RNG may fuck you over tho.
    Fury is currently outperforming Arms in single target PvE situations and burst aoe PvE situations.
    Arms is strong and viable in PvP. Your execute is basically a 20% touch of death. Warriors are not the current fotm class but can perform well with a healer in 3s with the right comp.
    Arms is currently outperforming Fury in constant aoe PvE situations. Only fight this currently applies to is Maidens.
    Prot funnily performs okay-ish in 1 on 1 PvP sitations. Since the nerf to gladiator stance and a flat buff to many core prot abilities you sometimes face full prot warriors in arenas. This is barely viable on higher ratings but a lot of fun for the casual PvP experience.
    Prot tanks in PvE. duh.


    Arms and Fury are both viable in both, PvP and PvE. Fury has a slight edge in PvE and imo Arms has a slight edge in PvP.
    TG performs better in AoE situations, smf performs better in single target situations. Note, that "performing better" means very small differences.
    Gladiator might be PvE viable with 6.2 again.
    Quote Originally Posted by magnuzze View Post
    considering that TG warriors was here since Vanilla, and DK's got into the World of warcraft in WoTLK... you can say that they have been stealing 2-handed from us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Risin View Post
    But I think it's a serious problem that a lot of people keep farming Mounts without any result for years. It could probably invoke some bad kind of anxiety and in some cases even depression, to be honest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrien View Post
    DK's and warrs are even on heals.

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    Okey, thanks alot guys for the info.

    Just one question, is it worth to go with Avatar in PVE now as Fury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valech View Post
    TG performs better in AoE situations, smf performs better in single target situations. Note, that "performing better" means very small differences.
    The singletarget difference is indeed very small to nonexistent but TG has a large (~6-8%) advantage over SMF for sustained cleave and its Bladestorm damage is about 13% higher, giving you better burst against things like the hands on Kromog. It also has more health since 2hs have more stamina. Basically TG is simply better except for the fact that there is usually more competition for strength 2hs, and crafted/PvP 2hs are more expensive.

    Source for numbers: Simcraft with 2x mythic Taner's vs 2x mythic Ka'graz's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peshmerga View Post
    Okey, thanks alot guys for the info.

    Just one question, is it worth to go with Avatar in PVE now as Fury?
    Don´t quote me on that, but I believe you pick avatar if you have the vial trinket because it lines up with one another if you pick anger management. Something like that. Anyone with a certain answer?
    Quote Originally Posted by magnuzze View Post
    considering that TG warriors was here since Vanilla, and DK's got into the World of warcraft in WoTLK... you can say that they have been stealing 2-handed from us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Risin View Post
    But I think it's a serious problem that a lot of people keep farming Mounts without any result for years. It could probably invoke some bad kind of anxiety and in some cases even depression, to be honest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrien View Post
    DK's and warrs are even on heals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peshmerga View Post
    Okey, thanks alot guys for the info.

    Just one question, is it worth to go with Avatar in PVE now as Fury?
    If you've got Scabbard, then go Avatar + Siegebreaker or Bloodbath + Anger Management and delay your 3rd usage of Scabbard for 30 seconds for Recklessness.
    If you've got Vial, then go Avatar + AM or Bloodbath + Siegebreaker.

    Edit: It also depends on the fight length of each boss e.g Gruul, if you usually kill him in less than 3 minutes then you should go with AM, just so you can get an additional Recklessness.

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