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  1. #701
    Field Marshal Ishilien's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silmann View Post
    Spec: Survival
    Item Level 559
    Expectations: Unsure
    Armory Link: eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/quelthalas/Mully/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: worldoflogs.com/guilds/97078/
    Femaledwarf Link: femaledwarf.com/?setting_id=18222

    It feels like I'm under performing on some fights, so I'd like some advice.
    uuh, your DPS is fine considering the gear you are in... I looked into your WoL a bit, but I don't really see that much stuff to comment on tbh with you...
    I noticed that your DoT uptime on SS was around 80% on some fights, maybe you can squeeze something more out of that?
    Are you prepotting and using pots during the encounters? I sometimes don't see your Virmen's Bite uptime in the buff breakdown.
    Other than that I cannot really find anything :P

  2. #702
    Reposting this, hoping for some feedback. So we've noticed that on the most patchwerk fights (Juggernaut/Malkorak) she does the simdps that wowprogress suggests, but is there anyway to up those numbers? I'm not familiar with hunters so any suggestions are appreciated.

    Spec BM
    Item Level 556
    Expectations:
    Armory Link: us.battle.net/ wow/en/character/proudmoore/Shaiel/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: worldoflogs.com/ reports/rt-43mfsajwipye7wr3/sum/damageDone/?s=446&e=791

    It won't let me post links again, so there's spaces on the links.

  3. #703
    Spec Beast Mastery
    Item Level 549
    Armory Link: eu.battle.net/ wow/en/character/ghostlands/Mishi/simple
    Worldoflogs Link: worldoflogs.com/ reports/jux99n4lhccdcjyx
    Femaledwarf Link: femaledwarf.com/ ?setting_id=18276

    I'm trying to get my hunter (alt until now) ready for a new raiding group and make sure I'm doing my best. I tried comparing Juggernaut log with femdwarf and I'm still off the sim. Only log I have atm so in settings disabled flask/potions I didn't use, set pet to tenacity (only realised after shamans wipe, kill me) and barrage I forgot to swap out after Galakras.
    Aside from the setup is there something wrong I'm doing with my basic play?
    Also any tips on AoE would be great

  4. #704
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    Spec BM (considering switching to SV, not sure if it's worth it - it feels very RNG based with LnL)
    Item Level 556 at time of log, 558 now
    Expectations: 275k, or higher
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%C3%A9r/simple
    Worldoflogs Link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=3316&e=3620 this is a juggernaut fight from when I was at 556 iLvl. I was at 258k tonight's raid, however logs bugged. My dps was only 235.7k on Klaxxi, and 238.8k on Thok
    Femaledwarf Link: http://www.femaledwarf.com/?setting_id=18343

    I just feel that my DPS is always lower than it should be. I've spoken to other hunters and they say I should be doing higher. I feel that I have good CD usage and do the "rotation" well. I definitely don't feel like I should be outdps'd by our DK, even though I am almost every fight. Are my talent choices right? I feel too focus starved at times with DB, and feel like I have too much at other times. ToTH seems to be the smoothest for me. Even on a target dummy test of about 5min (no buffs, except for crit) I only manage about 200-205k

  5. #705
    Spec Beast Mastery
    Item Level 562
    Expectations: Not sure
    Armory Link: eu. battle. net/ wow/ en/ character/ auchindoun/ Lexx%C3%A9 /simple
    Worldoflogs Link: worldoflogs. com / reports/rt-69h2yl9fku0g4dps/sum/damageDone/
    Femaledwarf Link: femaledwarf. com / ?setting_id=18414


    I have been having trouble with my DPS for a long time now. I was even kicked from my raiding guild when MSV came out for low DPS. This hasn't helped me as it makes me nervous to apply for other raiding guilds. Currently I am raiding with a friend's alt guild group which consists of a few mains and mostly of peoples second alts. I can do well in fights, sometimes topping those meters, however I find I drop in DPS a lot. I am a ilvl 562 BM Hunter and in a Flexi raid I did today I was sometimes loosing/barely beating another BM Hunter with an ilvl of 545, I was doing under 200k DPS in those fights. I cannot understand why my DPS varies so much as I have read guides and gemmed/reforged/enchanted my gear to what is required, along with trying my rotation.I know my character is capable of doing a lot more and I would hate to reroll which people have suggested to me Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

    P.S. It wont allow me to post links so there are spaces on them

  6. #706
    Quote Originally Posted by Solanara View Post
    Reposting this, hoping for some feedback. So we've noticed that on the most patchwerk fights (Juggernaut/Malkorak) she does the simdps that wowprogress suggests, but is there anyway to up those numbers? I'm not familiar with hunters so any suggestions are appreciated.

    Spec BM
    Item Level 556
    Expectations:
    Armory Link: us.battle.net/ wow/en/character/proudmoore/Shaiel/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: worldoflogs.com/ reports/rt-43mfsajwipye7wr3/sum/damageDone/?s=446&e=791

    It won't let me post links again, so there's spaces on the links.
    I took a look at your most recent single target fights. ( 10/25/13 at time of posting )

    Iron Juggernaut
    - 49 Kill Commands over 345 seconds. 7.04 seconds between Kill Command on average ( 1 second slow on average )
    - 19 Glaive Tosses over 345 seconds. 18.15 seconds between Glaive Toss on average ( 3 seconds slow on average
    - 95% SS up time ( Not bad )
    - Only 7 uses of Fervor ( 30 second cooldown ) over 345 seconds.
    - Your Bestial Wrath was not used during your second potion

    Malkorok
    - 35 Kill Commands over 233 seconds. 6.6 seconds between Kill Command on Average ( Not awful, not great either. )
    - 15 Glaive Tosses over 233 seconds. 15.53 seconds between Glaive Toss ( Pretty good )
    - 92.6% Serpent Sting up time ( Aim for 95+% )
    - Only 6 Fervors ( 30 second cooldown ) over 233 seconds.
    - Bestial Wrath and Virmen's Bite not lined up for second pot.

    Thok
    - Basically just an exaggerated version of the other two fights.

    In summary - Make Kill Command and Glaive Toss easier to see when they are off cooldown. Serpent Sting uptime isn't atrocious, but keep it up as often as you can. I like to hold my second potion, unless there is a required burn phase, for a time that I'll have both Stampede and Bestial Wrath up, especially if there will be a Bloodlust later in the fight. You may want to look into an add-on such as Event Horizon to plan cooldown usage.

    I suppose it's personal preference up to a point, but is there a reason you've chosen Fervor for Beast Mastery?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Pijips View Post
    Spec BM (considering switching to SV, not sure if it's worth it - it feels very RNG based with LnL)
    Item Level 556 at time of log, 558 now
    Expectations: 275k, or higher
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%C3%A9r/simple
    Worldoflogs Link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=3316&e=3620 this is a juggernaut fight from when I was at 556 iLvl. I was at 258k tonight's raid, however logs bugged. My dps was only 235.7k on Klaxxi, and 238.8k on Thok
    Femaledwarf Link: http://www.femaledwarf.com/?setting_id=18343

    I just feel that my DPS is always lower than it should be. I've spoken to other hunters and they say I should be doing higher. I feel that I have good CD usage and do the "rotation" well. I definitely don't feel like I should be outdps'd by our DK, even though I am almost every fight. Are my talent choices right? I feel too focus starved at times with DB, and feel like I have too much at other times. ToTH seems to be the smoothest for me. Even on a target dummy test of about 5min (no buffs, except for crit) I only manage about 200-205k
    Your Kill Command, Glaive Toss, and Serpent Sting usage are close enough to perfect that it'd be wrong to criticize them.

    It looks like you would have been able to do one more Bestial Wrath during the fight, but it also appears that you very rarely stack your cooldowns together. It appears that you used your second Virmen's Bite in a way that it fell off right as you used a Bestial Wrath. It also appears that you used Focus Fire during Bestial Wrath a few times.

    Looks like you are in the same Still-Has-A-Soul-Charm boat as I am. Are you delaying Kill Command at all for the higher ticks? Also, are you refreshing Serpent Sting under high agility procs when you will be entering a situation in which you won't have to Cobra Shot for the next several GCDs? ( Bestial wrath / Rapid Fire / Dire Beast / Focus Fire ) ?

    Am I blind, or did you not get a Bloodlust during that Juggernaut fight? I have a parse with practically identical gear and kill times, where I was 57k higher, but I'm not sure how relevant that is as I have Stormlash, Crit Banner, and Bloodlust and I'm not sure that you have any of those things.

  7. #707
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    Spec SV after 4p tier
    Item Level 564
    Expectations: min/max squeeze whatever i can out to perform 110%
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Dragzy/simple
    Worldoflogs Link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-ovb5ng7ft55grxuf/ this is starting from galakras
    Femaledwarf Link: http://www.femaledwarf.com/?setting_id=18448

    i feel with the current ilvl and gear i have right now im not pulling me weight i feel like im doing less then what i should be doing on all the fights going off logs and what other hunters are doing its getting me quite depressed, as sad as that sounds i like to take my raiding seriously and me not pulling my weight and not knowing why makes me not want to play anymore. if anyone could take some time and look over it all i would highly appreciate it.

    i know for a fact one of my main reasons is my MS since i play from australia on a US server my MS is at a constant 220-250ms and before anyone tells me to go to a oceantic server, i have a orc hunter on frostmourne as well which i stopped playing since we made a new guild on the alliance side us server, on the oceantic server im at 180-190ms still very high not a huge difference.

    thank u all in advance!

    dragzy

  8. #708
    Evening,

    Apologies if this is not in the right format, one of our guildies we think is currently under performing, and would like to offer him some assistance, therefore I would like to ask the community to offer some insight. Here is the log from the Garrosh Normal kill from tonight:
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/a...?s=7890&e=8375

    And here is his armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...fangs/advanced

    Thanks a lot.
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  9. #709
    Keep in mind on hunter DPS analysis - World of Logs is currently not reporting melee white attacks. So attacks from hunters pet / dire beast are not showing up in World of Logs. It hurts BM more than any other hunter spec, especially if they use Blink Strikes. Any logs from the past week, in terms of looking at DPS are basically useless.

  10. #710
    Quote Originally Posted by Keddy View Post
    Evening,

    Apologies if this is not in the right format, one of our guildies we think is currently under performing, and would like to offer him some assistance, therefore I would like to ask the community to offer some insight. Here is the log from the Garrosh Normal kill from tonight:
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/a...?s=7890&e=8375

    And here is his armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...fangs/advanced

    Thanks a lot.
    you hunter has 1 socket in his ring no gem in it. and he has an ilvl 536 weapon and a 530 trinket. if he has these both new with ilvl 548 or high he will do significant more dps
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    Hunters are the cheapest class in game and when played right are more deadly than a train plowing through a field of bunnies covered in napalm.
    Scrimjaw - Hunter - Blackmoore (EU)

  11. #711
    Spec BM
    Item Level 561
    Expectations: 280k
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Cuchu/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/t...wa2/dashboard/
    Femaledwarf Link: Not sure how to use this.

    I am asking for some feedback on behalf of our hunter. I don't know how the class is played, so don't know if he can improve or not. Any feedback would be appreciated.

    Thanks!

  12. #712
    Quote Originally Posted by Chancie View Post
    Spec BM
    Item Level 561
    Expectations: 280k
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Cuchu/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/t...wa2/dashboard/
    Femaledwarf Link: Not sure how to use this.

    I am asking for some feedback on behalf of our hunter. I don't know how the class is played, so don't know if he can improve or not. Any feedback would be appreciated.

    Thanks!
    thok fight
    only 50% uptime on serpent sting.
    you could have use 1 more bw and 6 more direbeasts.
    also u used focus fire while beastial wrath, use it after bw
    no enchant on shoulders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naftc View Post
    Hunters are the cheapest class in game and when played right are more deadly than a train plowing through a field of bunnies covered in napalm.
    Scrimjaw - Hunter - Blackmoore (EU)

  13. #713
    Spec Surv (Marksman for pure ST fights like Juggernaut)
    Item Level 550 (no legendaries yet..)
    Expectations: 230-250k
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/characte...izons/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/7...s=5841&e=6432#
    Femaledwarf Link: n.A.

    especially at H Protectors i felt i could not pull my weight at all. Used to play tank and rerolled to Hunter 3 Weeks ago, any help very much appreciated!

  14. #714
    SV
    Itemlevel 558 on that WoL
    expecting a lot more than comes out
    armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Soyul/advanced
    wol: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/5...?s=7678&e=7922
    fd, n.a

    expecting a lot more dps from me, st fights i should probably be at 330k or something and galakras, i just dont understand what the fuck i am doing there but my dps suck so badly i always cry during the fight

  15. #715
    Friend of mine has been asking people for help without any luck, could you please have a look at her and see what she can improve on?
    Spec Beast Mastery
    Item Level 562
    Expectations: Not sure
    Armory Link: eu. battle. net/ wow/ en/ character/ auchindoun/ Lexx%C3%A9 /simple
    Worldoflogs Link: worldoflogs. com / reports/rt-69h2yl9fku0g4dps/sum/damageDone/
    Femaledwarf Link: femaledwarf. com / ?setting_id=18414

  16. #716
    Quote Originally Posted by Whylde View Post
    SV
    Itemlevel 558 on that WoL
    expecting a lot more than comes out
    armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Soyul/advanced
    wol: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/5...?s=7678&e=7922
    fd, n.a

    expecting a lot more dps from me, st fights i should probably be at 330k or something and galakras, i just dont understand what the fuck i am doing there but my dps suck so badly i always cry during the fight
    please help me, i feel like a vacuum cleaner cuz i suck

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    So, I have a quick question, not really about fixing my DPS.

    What general estimate of my DPS do you think I should be doing in 536 ilvl, including legendary cloak and meta, and 4pc from T15? I'm stuck in a bunch of ToT normal gear because I stepped back from raiding in April, but I'm trying to get back into heroic progression and need a benchmark of where I should be in this gear.

    I'm topping the DPS in my flex group which has 550+ people in it, but that doesn't really mean anything to me. I'm above 200k most fights.

  18. #718
    Quote Originally Posted by Whylde View Post
    please help me, i feel like a vacuum cleaner cuz i suck
    Well, are you sincerely here for help? Or are you one of those guys who just needs the affirmation of strangers?

  19. #719
    Sorry but "You are not allowed to post any kinds of links, images or videos until you post a few times."

    Armory: 538 ilvl US Realms > Borean Tundra > Bohelronis
    World ofLogs: /reports/2meltat1a34vt4fh/details/5/?s=882&e=1098
    Expectation: 200k
    With prepotting and flask and food I peak well over 200k and by the end of the fight I settle at 140k. Thanks in advance.

  20. #720
    need help, especially the fight i said, galakras and well spoils is bad too

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