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  1. #1081
    Field Marshal
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    Spec: Used to Main SV, but thinking of switching to BM full-time. I'm actually starting to like it since I've had to play it for Heroic Siegecrafter.
    Item Level: 585.
    Expectations: I'm a perfectionist. I don't know everything there is to know about BM. If you see a problem with anything, tell me.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...onyus/advanced Some of my talents/glyphs might be weird because I've been solo-ing.
    Warcraftlogs Link: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/guilds/usercalendar/11642 These are my personal logs. Usually days with main raid are Wednesdays and Thursdays.

    Anything helps.

  2. #1082
    Spec BM
    Item Level 579
    Expectations: I'm always looking to increase my DPS abilities. I feel I'm very knowledgeable on the class but there's always something to learn from someone who knows more. I'm consistently top 3 DPS in my guild and out performing people with 6 or 7 ilvls on me, but I want to always be the best!
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...mokes/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...rce=21&fight=4 (Wing 3 logs from Wednesday)
    Last edited by Papasmokes; 2014-07-25 at 01:00 PM.

  3. #1083
    Herald of the Titans Poppincaps's Avatar
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    Spec: BM

    Item Level: 566

    Expectations: I simmed myself and got 251k dps on a 5 minute target dummy fight but it seems like I can't hit that unless I get some lucky trinket procs during BW or so. I looked over the common things like CD usage and I found that I had the maximum amount of KC, GT, Stamp, RF, and BWs in that time frame, yet somehow I am fluctuating between 230-240k on my logs. Basically I want someone to look over my logs and see where my mistakes are. I feel pretty comfortable with my skills but if I can figure out where that 10-20k is coming from I feel it could take me to the next level.

    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...pincaps/simple

    Warcraftlogs Link: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/twdNTx8VWP7n9Jy6

  4. #1084
    Well.. You were unbuffed. x.x

  5. #1085
    Herald of the Titans Poppincaps's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azortharion View Post
    Well.. You were unbuffed. x.x
    I simmed myself as unbuffed and I took kill shot out of the rotation as well. Only buff I had and the one on the sim were 10% AP and 5% crit from my wolf.

  6. #1086
    Quote Originally Posted by Poppincaps View Post
    I simmed myself as unbuffed and I took kill shot out of the rotation as well. Only buff I had and the one on the sim were 10% AP and 5% crit from my wolf.
    ON some dummy, specially the one's in shrine, can make ur pet bug out and it wont cast basic attacks, which makes u miss about 12 ~ 15% of ur total dps. check ur scada/recount if that is the case. u can notice if such is the case while testing, u wont have any frenzy stacks and thus no focus fire.

  7. #1087
    Grunt
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    Hey guys i posted here a couple months ago and now im back for more

    Spec SV
    Item Level 578

    Expectations: I've been performing at an acceptable level, but i always feel that i can do better. What i've noticed as of late is that my opener is pretty much garbage, and am looking for help on that.

    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...fthor/advanced

    Warcraftlogs Link: one of our better paragons pulls: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...DkbhjN#fight=5

    our most recent farm day (not all bosses are there): http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/V4jvkL26JZ9FKxMz


    one question in particular is that I (Grefthor) cast less explosive shots, but many many more arcane shots than our other survival hunter (fatal). We both perform very similarly, but our playstyles differ greatly. Which way is more effective? Am i not casting enough explo shots?

  8. #1088
    Well you should be prioritising explosive shot over arcane shot every single time, so if you aren't you're doing it wrong ^^

  9. #1089
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    I do that as much as i can, but my logic in certain situations is that, for example: if i have 18 seconds left on rapid fire and have TOTH procs, ill pump out 2 arcanes and pop rapid fire before mashing away my lock n load stacks. Is this wrong? Maybe its also just bad RNG where i don't get many 4piece bonus explosive shots, but i doubt that can be held accountable for such a consistent loss of dps. This week ill focus on getting the absolute maximum amount of explosive shots i can and see how it works out

  10. #1090
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cackmuffin View Post
    I do that as much as i can, but my logic in certain situations is that, for example: if i have 18 seconds left on rapid fire and have TOTH procs, ill pump out 2 arcanes and pop rapid fire before mashing away my lock n load stacks. Is this wrong? Maybe its also just bad RNG where i don't get many 4piece bonus explosive shots, but i doubt that can be held accountable for such a consistent loss of dps. This week ill focus on getting the absolute maximum amount of explosive shots i can and see how it works out
    Yes that is wrong. explosive shot > all

    kissthebaby#1726

  11. #1091
    Spec BM
    Item Level 580
    Expectations: I'm raid leader (warlock in logs) and want to get confirmation of my own conclusions on our raid hunter. I've been playing running my own hunter through the legendary quest at the moment to help try and understand what's typical for BM these days. My own previous experience was raiding Kara to DS but mainly as SV. I have talked to him about his dps and I think it might just be the low KC usage that is holding him back. I have sim'd him upwards of 350k on a variety of fight types with Raid dummy being 381k. Any ideas/advice would be great.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...rdrie/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...Rp4aKC#fight=2 Plenty more logs under the guild (8/14Hrc)

  12. #1092
    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberie View Post
    Spec BM
    Item Level 580
    Expectations: I'm raid leader (warlock in logs) and want to get confirmation of my own conclusions on our raid hunter. I've been playing running my own hunter through the legendary quest at the moment to help try and understand what's typical for BM these days. My own previous experience was raiding Kara to DS but mainly as SV. I have talked to him about his dps and I think it might just be the low KC usage that is holding him back. I have sim'd him upwards of 350k on a variety of fight types with Raid dummy being 381k. Any ideas/advice would be great.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...rdrie/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...Rp4aKC#fight=2 Plenty more logs under the guild (8/14Hrc)
    Just a quick analysis of him is showing a few things wrong right off of the bat.

    In a 3:29 fight he hit 14 out of a possible 34 Kill Commands. That's a huge DPS loss. He's 1.5%+ over the Hit cap and .5% over the Exp. cap, but it seems he's reforging everything out of Hit that he can so that's just a gear issue at this point.

    He's also casting Cobra shot too much. In 3:29 he cast Cobra Shot 47 times. I looked at one of my logs for IJ heroic and in 4:50 I cast it 55 times (and I'm no 99%er). In that same 4:50 fight I had 372k DPS v. his 285k at equivalent item levels. Even taking out some variables, with almost a minute and a half quicker kill than me he should have destroyed my DPS.

    He cast Serpent Sting 5 times during the fight which either means he let it fall of 4 times or is just wasting those GCDs - either way that's no good. He only got 6 out of 13 Glaive Tosses off as well.

    He only got 4 out of 6 Dire Beasts off (damn near could have gotten 7) and only used Rapid Fire once. Even without the 2pc set bonus he could have cast it at least twice (with all of the Arcane Shots he put down range it should have come up 4 or 5 times).

    Basically his CD usage is off, and he could use some more macros. Send him over to Azor's Hunter F.A.Q. thread to look up the basic macros, openers, and WeakAuras. Those should significantly increase his DPS. Then onto a practice dummy to train himself to hit priority abilities correctly.

    If I missed anything, my more experienced colleagues will surely let you know. However, that should be most of the basics.

  13. #1093
    Cheeers, I had focused on the low KC so all that other stuff is great. Thanks for checking.


    Quote Originally Posted by Papasmokes View Post
    Just a quick analysis of him is showing a few things wrong right off of the bat.

    In a 3:29 fight he hit 14 out of a possible 34 Kill Commands. That's a huge DPS loss. He's 1.5%+ over the Hit cap and .5% over the Exp. cap, but it seems he's reforging everything out of Hit that he can so that's just a gear issue at this point.

    He's also casting Cobra shot too much. In 3:29 he cast Cobra Shot 47 times. I looked at one of my logs for IJ heroic and in 4:50 I cast it 55 times (and I'm no 99%er). In that same 4:50 fight I had 372k DPS v. his 285k at equivalent item levels. Even taking out some variables, with almost a minute and a half quicker kill than me he should have destroyed my DPS.

    He cast Serpent Sting 5 times during the fight which either means he let it fall of 4 times or is just wasting those GCDs - either way that's no good. He only got 6 out of 13 Glaive Tosses off as well.

    He only got 4 out of 6 Dire Beasts off (damn near could have gotten 7) and only used Rapid Fire once. Even without the 2pc set bonus he could have cast it at least twice (with all of the Arcane Shots he put down range it should have come up 4 or 5 times).

    Basically his CD usage is off, and he could use some more macros. Send him over to Azor's Hunter F.A.Q. thread to look up the basic macros, openers, and WeakAuras. Those should significantly increase his DPS. Then onto a practice dummy to train himself to hit priority abilities correctly.

    If I missed anything, my more experienced colleagues will surely let you know. However, that should be most of the basics.

  14. #1094
    Spec BM
    Item Level 579
    Expectations: 375-405k+ The logs im posting are before i got a HWF AoC .. was using a 4/4 553 AoC. I know my SS uptime is low and should be 95%+ I'm using a WA now to keep track of it incase it falls off. Besides that any tips on what I can do better would be appreciated.
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    Warcraftlogs Link:
    Last edited by Kuzz70; 2014-08-12 at 09:46 AM.

  15. #1095
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzz70 View Post
    Spec BM
    Item Level 579
    Expectations: 375-405k+ The logs im posting are before i got a HWF AoC .. was using a 4/4 553 AoC. I know my SS uptime is low and should be 95%+ I'm using a WA now to keep track of it incase it falls off. Besides that any tips on what I can do better would be appreciated.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...elleana/simple I'm reforged and gemmed for Survival as I was playing around with it, but I normally run H>M>C when I play BM during main raid.
    Warcraftlogs Link: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...B3j4q#fight=21
    You missed a few KC's, you did 43 when you could have done 48. Not the worst, but it could be better.

    I'm not gonna go through the logs completely tooth and nail, but one major thing stuck out to me.

    00:00:41.866 Velleana casts Bestial Wrath

    00:00:42.138 Beast 2 (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:42.271 Tallstrider (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:42.600 Tallstrider (Velleana) casts Claw on Malkorok

    00:00:42.739 Velleana begins casting Cobra Shot

    00:00:43.254 Tallstrider (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:43.489 Beast 2 (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:44.018 Velleana casts Cobra Shot on Malkorok

    00:00:44.018 Velleana casts Arcane Shot on Malkorok

    00:00:44.299 Tallstrider (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:44.798 Beast 2 (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:45.079 Velleana casts Kill Command on Malkorok

    00:00:45.302 Tallstrider (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:45.827 Tallstrider (Velleana) casts Claw on Malkorok

    00:00:46.081 Velleana casts Arcane Shot on Malkorok

    00:00:46.117 Beast 2 (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:46.375 Tallstrider (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:47.155 Velleana casts Serpent Sting on Malkorok

    00:00:47.322 Tallstrider (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:47.549 Beast 2 (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:48.099 Velleana casts Arcane Shot on Malkorok

    00:00:48.356 Tallstrider (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:48.850 Beast 2 (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:49.028 Tallstrider (Velleana) casts Claw on Malkorok

    00:00:49.136 Velleana begins casting Cobra Shot

    00:00:49.338 Tallstrider (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:50.183 Beast 2 (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:50.386 Tallstrider (Velleana) swings at Malkorok

    00:00:50.448 Velleana casts Cobra Shot on Malkorok

    00:00:51.195 Velleana casts Kill Command on Malkorok

    This is a snippet from your event log during the fight. During your second Bestial Wrath you used cobra shot twice. I only checked your second BW due to time constraints on my part, but chances are you made the mistake multiple times during the evening, and even on this fight. You should literally never put yourself in a situation where you have to cobra shot during BW. 3-5 seconds before BW comes off CD, you should be pooling your focus to 80-100, ready to dump nothing but KC's, arcane shots and glaive tosses into the boss during that 10 second window. This is a fairly substantial dps loss to be making this error, so really work on fixing it asap.

  16. #1096

    Unhappy

    Spec SV & considering to go BM
    Item Level 578
    Expectations: Please read below!
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...nsive/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...4&type=summary



    I know for sure my dps is low compared to my iLVL / Gear, is it my rotation ? or is my gear oriented more for BM ?

    Also, a note, i'm located in Kuwait atm, and my latency is ranging between 180-200 both World & home.


    Thanks <3

  17. #1097
    Quote Originally Posted by Inpain View Post
    Spec SV & considering to go BM
    Item Level 578
    Expectations: Please read below!
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...nsive/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...4&type=summary



    I know for sure my dps is low compared to my iLVL / Gear, is it my rotation ? or is my gear oriented more for BM ?

    Also, a note, i'm located in Kuwait atm, and my latency is ranging between 180-200 both World & home.


    Thanks <3
    I took the log from sha of pride since that is the only almost single target fight you have logged since you weren't present on the juggernaut kill.

    What stood out to me mainly is the low explosive shot uptime, a good log would have at least 50% uptime.

    This isn't as important but you also had a 57% BA uptime which directly translates to your ES uptime.

    Also you casted aMoC twice in an almost 6 minute fight, you can get at least 3 in that time, maybe 4 if you used one below 20%.

  18. #1098
    Quote Originally Posted by Illana View Post
    I took the log from sha of pride since that is the only almost single target fight you have logged since you weren't present on the juggernaut kill.

    What stood out to me mainly is the low explosive shot uptime, a good log would have at least 50% uptime.

    This isn't as important but you also had a 57% BA uptime which directly translates to your ES uptime.

    Also you casted aMoC twice in an almost 6 minute fight, you can get at least 3 in that time, maybe 4 if you used one below 20%.

    Thank you!

    And how about the gear ? is it suited more for SV or BM ?

  19. #1099
    Need a Warcraftlogs evaluation for my guild to see if I am playing my spec correctly.

    Spec SV
    Item Level 580
    Expectations: 415k+
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...elleana/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...pe=damage-done
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...pe=damage-done
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...pe=damage-done

  20. #1100
    Epic! Zaxio's Avatar
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    Spec BM
    Item Level 585
    Expectations: I expect to be over 400k average DPS for most of the fights especially at Garrosh where we push him to p3 before second transmition(Sims show 445k dps)
    After i check logs i saw that i have like 20x less casted Kill commands for Gary compared to top hunter and after some research i discover that mine cobra shots casting is way too messy which lead to dealying KC or lack of focus in BW. I also will accept any tips about using Engineering synapse (respec proff 2 months ago)
    Armory Link:
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...n%C3%A4/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link:
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PGZmqjaky4N9LhRr last fight

    P.S. Ignore mine glyphs and talents i do solo mount runs between raiding
    Last edited by Zaxio; 2014-08-25 at 05:03 AM.

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