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  1. #281
    Hello. I've been trying to figure what's going on with my DPS for the last few weeks now, and it's starting to bother me. During T11 we were overpowered, got a nerf going into Firelands, and, in my opinion, haven't got any love since. Granted, everyone feels their class gets nerfed, but we got hit with 12% and Mages just recently with 6%. Anyway, onto the topic. I didn't get a legendary and probably will never see one (passed on cinders for someone who's halfway). Not getting one doesn't bother me. I usually am the Hymm person because of my low DPS, that doesn't bother me any either. I'd rather make sure those things go out than top meters. Perhaps that's a reason why I'm so low. I use TellMeWhen to track dots, ES, orbs, and MB and Archangel CDs. I personally favor Mastery over Crit, so I tend to reforge that way. I also was a fan of not being at the hit cap until we started Heroic Ultraxion because we're at about 6% when he enrages. I usually don't see gear until others have it, which is fine, I'm not a loot whore. I got lucky with Will of Unbinding, that was during an alt 10 man. I should note that I have heroic T12 save the helm. Even though it's Raid Finder, it sim'd higher than T12. It's entirely possible I screwed up SimCraft because it's the first time I've dug into it.

    I can't post links until I post a few times, so my character is Narcoticks on Eredar. World of logs dot com slash guilds slash 5191

    Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by Phusion View Post
    Hello. I've been trying to figure what's going on with my DPS for the last few weeks now, and it's starting to bother me. During T11 we were overpowered, got a nerf going into Firelands, and, in my opinion, haven't got any love since. Granted, everyone feels their class gets nerfed, but we got hit with 12% and Mages just recently with 6%.
    Well we didn't get a 12% nerf. Our dots were nerfed and our direct damage spells were buffed. Single target we effectively stayed the same, it was a nerf to multi dotting but if you look at madness and warmaster logs you can see we are still very strong in the multi dotting fights. In fact look at the data and the rankings and you can see shadow is still one of the best all round dps specs.

  3. #283
    Hi there, long time reader, first time poster

    I have a few ideas about what is wrong, but would love any additional advice as it is really frustrating me. Last week on our Heroic Ultra kill I ran as much haste as possible, with a 33% buff to ES. Can't post a link, but the log is from the 30th of January.

    Last night, i ran the set up currently shown on my armory which obviously shows less haste more mastery (36% on ES)

    Character is Caewyn on US Dreadmaul

    Unfortunately the log didn't work last night (wouldn't work for anyone on the server) but some attempts were a lot better and overall I think my average dps was better.

    But any advice would be much appreciated, my burst is fantastic with the MS/MB/SF/AA, its the average dps in between that is frustrating. It's worth noting that I use dispersion 3 times to soak Hour of Twilight, I use a macro to cancel it asap. I also got Fading light 8 times the kill attempt, and I seem to do a good job of getting it right when I want to use SF/AA again which often has to be delayed as a result.

    As a side note, we are starting work on Heroic Warmaster, would I be better running more haste for this? Our add dps so far has been lacking, there are attempts in the log linked above.

  4. #284
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    Hi! I need help badly and fast!
    I just joined a new guild that I already like after only a few days and I badly wanna make my trial. I've read tons of guides and done my fair share of dummy practice.
    But today when we progressed on Yor'sahj (and got our first kill) I was always in the bottom 3 in dps on around 40k dps.

    Would really like any help I can get! Specific info would be appriciated, such as how to use cooldowns (fiend and mind spike on blobs?) and generally just how to improve this fight!

    World of Logs: www[dot]worldoflogs[dot]com/reports/rt-cw9t4rny11vgsu8w/details/13/?s=10204&e=10771
    Armory: eu[dot]battle[dot]net/wow/en/character/outland/Desyo/simple

  5. #285
    Hello all, I have used you once and you were able to help a fellow guildee but I am back. As a fellow raider with our Spriest (the warlock that gives him DI ) I feel like his DPS is quite low. According to Raidbots.com the average dps of ALL Spriests for H Ultraxion is 34.3k dps (average of RANKED Spriests is 42.5k). His best attempt was 33.5k dps, which means he is BELOW average. As a guild that wants to progress in Hard Modes we just cant afford that. His dot up-time is excellent, but I just cant figure out why hes doing such low dps. Does he have too much Haste? Below is our most recent H Ultraxion kill, any help will be appreciated!

    iLvl: 395
    Expectations: To be average or better than average DPS
    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...gundo/advanced
    WoL: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/n...?s=2688&e=2999

  6. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroAvix View Post
    I know this isn't constructive right now and I've been slacking on helping people, but I just want to point out my haste and hit.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...rizzi/advanced

    Can't believe they came out like that.
    To much haste.

    Valentiner:
    Please link a log on murchok instead of a multidot fight, makes it easier to see what you do and how you do it.

    Amontoya:
    He's doing decent DPS for his gear but something that would perhaps do a notable difference is to make use of his 4set by this rotation:

    Mindflay (interrupt after two ticks)
    Mindflay (interrupt after two ticks)
    Mindblast
    Archangel
    Pots, on use trinkets etc + Shadow fiend
    Mind spike x 3
    Mindflay
    Mind Blast asap as comes of cooldown, interrupt mindflay and cast MB asap, even before the seccond tic (Mind flay is cast to prevent orb munching, eg letting your SF hit the boss before casting MB)
    Mind spike x3
    Mind flay
    Mindblast (interrupt mind flay asap)
    Recast dots and resume your normal rotation and cast Mind blast (that now will have three orbs from the SFs last hit) when you can.

  7. #287
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amontoya86 View Post
    Hello all, I have used you once and you were able to help a fellow guildee but I am back. As a fellow raider with our Spriest (the warlock that gives him DI ) I feel like his DPS is quite low. According to Raidbots.com the average dps of ALL Spriests for H Ultraxion is 34.3k dps (average of RANKED Spriests is 42.5k). His best attempt was 33.5k dps, which means he is BELOW average. As a guild that wants to progress in Hard Modes we just cant afford that. His dot up-time is excellent, but I just cant figure out why hes doing such low dps. Does he have too much Haste? Below is our most recent H Ultraxion kill, any help will be appreciated!

    iLvl: 395
    Expectations: To be average or better than average DPS
    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...gundo/advanced
    WoL: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/n...?s=2688&e=2999
    Dot Uptimes are ok, so is Mind Flay Uptime

    What he should work on are Mind Blasts, he casts a total of 32 Mind Blasts in 5:10, that is a mind blast every 9.5 seconds, this should be more like 8.5 seconds.

    Also he has got the 4pc t13 set bonus and does not utilize it by using a mind spike rotation as stated here.

    He is far away from reaching the 3202 haste plateau, having the mind spike rotation in mind, he should go down to 30% haste (27% if he gets Dark Intent everytime) and go full mastery after that.

    No Volcanic Potions were used in the logged fight, at least one should be used (+1 prepotting).
    Last edited by syslord2k2; 2012-02-02 at 09:46 PM.

  8. #288
    Just wondering, any thoughts on my post? (a few up from the ones that have been answered). I'd really love some help

  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by Caewyn View Post
    Just wondering, any thoughts on my post? (a few up from the ones that have been answered). I'd really love some help
    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...aewyn/advanced

    You won't get too much input without logs. One thing you can do is put epic gems in your Legendary and shift your jc gems elsewhere.

    Watch Crimson's raids streamed LIVE on: www.twitch.tv/kur1 (Rogue PoV)

  10. #290
    Heya!

    In last reset i started to gear my priest. Now i want know that what i shoud buy for VP so i can push better DPS. Atm 1700 VP. As you can see i still wear some PvP items but i have no choises yet and ill try upgrade them as soon as possible. Like i said this is my second reset as shadow. Is the haste trinket best choise for me, since my haste is quite low? Big thanks

    Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...nathima/simple
    Last edited by Merfenos; 2012-02-03 at 07:24 AM.

  11. #291
    I read in this thread that you can pull up the logs if I give you my armory, since I have not posted enough to be able to post a link. I gave you a date for the log with our Heroic Ultra kill, the 30th of January, obviously the armory will provide the guild and server.

  12. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Caewyn View Post
    I read in this thread that you can pull up the logs if I give you my armory, since I have not posted enough to be able to post a link. I gave you a date for the log with our Heroic Ultra kill, the 30th of January, obviously the armory will provide the guild and server.
    Found them: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/1...?s=3622&e=3944

    Dots seem okay, due to the spike spam.
    You missed a couple of dps opportunities, missing an archangel is the main one, a couple of sw: d's and a few mind blasts.
    You also got screwed over by dtr procs imo.

    Lastly, I believe going for more haste would be good for gunship, based on my experience on it (i dont have 4 set so i run haste/crit) the majority of my dps came out of my dots, including double dotting blackhorn whilst working down goriona. We had a fair amount of movement in our strat so I missed a fair few mb opportunities.

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  13. #293
    Thanks for the feedback, I wasn't sure how high the DOT uptime could be with the spike spam. I think I need to work on hitting Heroic Will later as well, I always try and play it safe as with my latency, a few times I have hit it on 1 and then died.

    I'm still not sure about Gunship, I ran more mastery for our first night of attempts, but it was hard to tell, we were fine tuning our strat and not having many long attempts.

  14. #294
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...eak/Bob/simple

    Something is wrong, Not sure what it is, do I have too much or too little of something? Please help!

  15. #295
    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeLions View Post
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...eak/Bob/simple

    Something is wrong, Not sure what it is, do I have too much or too little of something? Please help!
    You are lacking enchants, gems and you are way above the hitcap (17%).

  16. #296
    Hello, I come here for fixing my fellow raider DPS(s. priest).

    He is currently at 397 ilvl

    This is his armory http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...kusnaja/simple

    I wonder why, when I simmed him I got like 36-37k DPS, which is too low IMO.

    This week on normal Ultraxion he did around 33-34k(of course 3-4 k behind other DPSes and they are at like 392-395 ilvl)

    So I wonder if this is normal for s.priest dps or he is doing something wrong.

    As I know he is doing everything right, hit at 17.00, aim for possible highest haste, rest to mastery.

    Please help.

    TY a lot

    Soz for bad English.

  17. #297
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    Ilvl: 393
    Expectations: To push out several K more dps, especially on Ooze boss/Ultraxion
    Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%a5ngel/simple
    Worldoflogs Link: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-hgpqak7gdfwx65h2/

    Hey all,

    At the moment my shadow priest (Årchångel) is working on Yosaj 10 Heroic, yet I just can't seem to pull more than 30kish DPS, our best attempt being 20%.

    We are also going to start working on Ultraxion 10 Hc, we got him to about 30% the 2nd or 3rd try we tried it, but havn't got that on logs.

    I just want to know how to boost my DPS on those fights, I have read a few times that stacking mastery for a AA and SF combo spamming MS and MB on CD is a significant increase in DPS. I'm not sure how true this is though.

    Also, for yosaj, how can I maximise DPS on that boss, as I am the priest that is using both the hymms when manavoid is up, and when the red/yellow/black phase is up, to give mana on mana void and healing on that painful phase. I know our setup is not great, 2 shadow priests, 2 mages etc, but we're a small guild :/.

    For extra info: Next raid is tonight and I spent an hour or 2 testing the Mind Spike / MB / SF / AA combo and i've found it increases my DPS by several K, I am going to test it tonight on heroic ooze boss.

    With the nerf in effect we should have both down next week, if not this week, but I just want to push out way more DPS as currently, i'm shocked at how low it is compared to the other classes...

    Really appreciate it,
    ~Årchångel

  18. #298
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibanism View Post
    Hello, I come here for fixing my fellow raider DPS(s. priest).

    He is currently at 397 ilvl

    This is his armory http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...kusnaja/simple

    I wonder why, when I simmed him I got like 36-37k DPS, which is too low IMO.

    This week on normal Ultraxion he did around 33-34k(of course 3-4 k behind other DPSes and they are at like 392-395 ilvl)

    So I wonder if this is normal for s.priest dps or he is doing something wrong.

    As I know he is doing everything right, hit at 17.00, aim for possible highest haste, rest to mastery.

    Please help.

    TY a lot

    Soz for bad English.
    It will be hard to help you without logs but as he doesn't quite reach the 3202 haste plateau i would trade haste to mastery to make further use of the 4pc t13 bonus

  19. #299
    Quote Originally Posted by Kpal11 View Post
    Ilvl: 393
    Expectations: To push out several K more dps, especially on Ooze boss/Ultraxion
    Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%a5ngel/simple
    Worldoflogs Link: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-hgpqak7gdfwx65h2/

    Hey all,

    At the moment my shadow priest (Årchångel) is working on Yosaj 10 Heroic, yet I just can't seem to pull more than 30kish DPS, our best attempt being 20%.

    We are also going to start working on Ultraxion 10 Hc, we got him to about 30% the 2nd or 3rd try we tried it, but havn't got that on logs.

    I just want to know how to boost my DPS on those fights, I have read a few times that stacking mastery for a AA and SF combo spamming MS and MB on CD is a significant increase in DPS. I'm not sure how true this is though.

    Also, for yosaj, how can I maximise DPS on that boss, as I am the priest that is using both the hymms when manavoid is up, and when the red/yellow/black phase is up, to give mana on mana void and healing on that painful phase. I know our setup is not great, 2 shadow priests, 2 mages etc, but we're a small guild :/.

    For extra info: Next raid is tonight and I spent an hour or 2 testing the Mind Spike / MB / SF / AA combo and i've found it increases my DPS by several K, I am going to test it tonight on heroic ooze boss.

    With the nerf in effect we should have both down next week, if not this week, but I just want to push out way more DPS as currently, i'm shocked at how low it is compared to the other classes...

    Really appreciate it,
    ~Årchångel
    EU armory is currently down for me, but for yorsajh you just mind sear harder on black phase and double dot the void when possible. That will ramp your dps up for the most part. Will edit with more when armorys back up.

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  20. #300
    Item Level398
    Expectations:Min/maxing - Patchwerk style fights (Ultraxion)
    Armory Link:http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...umupews/simple
    Worldoflogs Link:http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=6248&e=6560

    Ok so! Recently rerolled Spriest after a long break, and thought it was time to see if I've done my homework right. Only really after peoples thoughts on Ultraxion which is why I have only included his log in the link. While knowing that not having the legendary is hurting me a bit, I still think I should be able to push 2-3k more. Could be RNG? I dno :3 Been looking at other SPriests logs (highend shadowpriests) and our DoT uptimes seems to be the same. Pointers please? Tyvm.

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