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  1. #361
    Item Level 372
    Expectations: Learn a normal DPS rotation for pretty high output
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ynalt/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: None

    Yoyo guys.
    I'm new to spriest and I wan't to learn them before I get gear enough for normal/hc Dragon Soul so I can do just fine at that point.
    Right now I'm pulling around 20k on Ultraxion with Dark Intent(LFR) but there is perhaps something I do wrong and I want you to point it out for me.

    I made a video for it and here you go:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKkGI6K5ZKA

    The video is around 4 min longs so I putted a song in there as well so it don't get all boring
    But yeah.. I think you can see the most what I'm doing there right now. I know there is some late MB's but other than that, I'm open for suggestions.

    Edit: just want to ask meanwhile I'm here; Is mastery better than crit for spriest?
    Cause I've seen both.. Some people go with mastery over crit, and some do crit over mastery
    And also, How do I AoE good?

    I saw a spriest some day ago doing like 50k(altho with 390+ilvl) on trash, but the main damage was from VT,SW:P, DP, but whenever I try doing that I'm on like 5k... :P
    Last edited by chief; 2012-02-28 at 06:16 PM.
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  2. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by Arlee View Post
    Well on that attempt you missed 2 MF's and a VT which hurts but how much depends on how fast you were to catch it. What also hurts a good bit is you also missed a MB. I would definitely suggest getting you hit higher if you can without dropping int.

    Your uptime on VT is definitely way to low considering you don't have the T13 4pc. Also you only cast MB 35 times when you should be able to at least get in 37, so I would watch that as well. You also could probably squeeze more sw: d in too since you do have the 2pc.

    The only other thing I would say is make sure things are refreshed before Hour goes off, and make sure you have a macro to remove dispersion from yourself after you use that for soaking the hours (you shouldn't need it for mana regen). Aside from that it's all the normal things, refresh dots right before heroism goes away, only refresh dots with 5 stacks of evangelism up (ie don't pop AA right before needing to refresh your dots).
    Thanks for the advice, it seems to have helped, also the mind flay clipping at last tick that is in the shadow pve guide on this website seemed to have made a difference, but it's still too low behind where I should be IMO.

    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...histo/advanced
    Log: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=6695&e=7033

    I'm now logged in shadow gear, and this is latest heroic Ultraxion, it's still below 30k, but it's not 26k. I did apply many of the tricks you gave me so it helped, but I can't yet figure the one thing I'm not doing right so not be last on dps on that fight, I mean, not like my gear is bad apart from trinkets that are average (I macro the on use one with archangel since they share a cooldown).

    Any other tips based on that? I'm still /facepalm from the hit cap last time, that was the new ring, this time it's the bracers so I will fix the hit cap but I was capped for the log. Of course I wished I was even remotely close to my ret paladin who is doing 41k, but I'm not sure you can do that on a priest without Dragonwrath anyways.

    Still trying to my 4th tier piece for shadow.
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  3. #363
    Ilevel-397
    Just seems like my dps should be higher. Wondering if everything looks right, and if being a "clicker" drops my dps that much?
    WoL-http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ntnli7vz4kriti87/details/3/?s=1605&e=1936
    Armory-http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/fuufighter/simple

    Thanks ahead for any tips!!

  4. #364
    Quote Originally Posted by dieball View Post
    Ilevel-397
    Just seems like my dps should be higher. Wondering if everything looks right, and if being a "clicker" drops my dps that much?
    WoL-http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ntnli7vz4kriti87/details/3/?s=1605&e=1936
    Armory-http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/fuufighter/simple

    Thanks ahead for any tips!!
    (Keep in mind that shadow is my off-spec)

    I see that you don't use the t13 rotation. It might boost your dps to do so. Here's a good place to start if you don't know about it. There is this video guide by Koilie too.

    Since you don't use t13 rotation, your dot uptime should be higher (98%+), especially your VT, which is at 93%. Refresh before fading light if you think it will fall down before you pop out of twilight. And try to push the button/disperse as late as possible.

    Given the time of the fight, you should have had time for ~2-7 more MB. Be sure to do it as soon as possible.

    I guess Ultraxion is one of the fight where being clicker would be the most forgiving, but in general, yes, being a clicker drops dps that much. Blackhorn would be a good exemple.

    GL

  5. #365
    Item Level: 392
    Expectations: Fix my seemingly low DPS.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Blissey/simple
    Worldoflogs Link: None

    I pull on average 26-33k on most fights, but that feels lower than what it should be. Anything I can do to get my DPS higher?
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  6. #366
    Item Level: 394
    Expectations: I think I have trouble with my dps on single target fight like Ultraxion
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...oopla/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link:
    1) N DW kill: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-edlcoftm3ivgs33b/ (started on blue platform cuz of achievement!)
    2) H Ultraxion kill: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-rnm7aiw1gu8ym7s2/
    3) H Warmaster kill: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-qgdzkziyxl6szsgk/ (You can check my dps spikes up to almost 70k in phase 1 but eventually lowers down in phase 2)


    On fights like N DW & H Warmaster I can usually be top 5 when there are things to multidot (Phase 2 in H Warmaster my dps is ranked lower cuz of single targeting) in my raid which is filled with ilvl 400+ people.
    I usually do not get DI as locks in my raid think my gear is too bad to get DI (except on multidot fights).
    I do not yet have 4set T13, so I follow the normal rotation.
    My dots uptimer & empowered shadow uptimer are almost always 95%+ and 90%+ respectively.

    Note: I realized I have a bit hit-overcap, so no need to mention that.

    I really appreciate any help you can give me :-) Thanks in advance!
    Last edited by Stickmenz; 2012-02-29 at 04:34 PM.
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  7. #367
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    Item Level 394
    Expectations: Bring my dps up at least a couple K's
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...hiest/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: http://worldoflogs.com/guilds/175415/

    Last night was a real eye-opener for me since I could no longer play the "these guys really out gear me" game to myself. On our Ultraxion pulls I could only do like 28-30k dps for some reason..granted I got Fading Light quite a few times, but when I looked at logs after the night I saw other people get it as much, if not more, than I did so that excuse flew out the window. I can already tell that my DoT uptime was pretty bad on Ultra, but they were good on the other fights for the most part yet I am still middle of the pack at best?

  8. #368
    Item Level: 400
    Expectations: Fix my really low DPS.
    Armory: us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Feightry/simple
    Worldoflogs: worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-l8s1s5jpvrilcwj9/

    My dps on our last kill of H ultrax 10m is really embarrassing considering my gear (34k dps). I really need help.
    Thank you.

  9. #369
    Quote Originally Posted by deadmenplaying View Post
    Item Level: 400
    Expectations: Fix my really low DPS.
    Armory: us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Feightry/simple
    Worldoflogs: worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-l8s1s5jpvrilcwj9/

    My dps on our last kill of H ultrax 10m is really embarrassing considering my gear (34k dps). I really need help.
    Thank you.
    Your gear looks good (reforge wise etc) you may want to consider checking the haste breakpoints in Kilee's thread. As high as yours is, it could be worth pushing for 3202 for the bonus imp dp damage.

    It looks as if you're sitting on shadow orbs, always mind blast on cd.

    ---------- Post added 2012-03-01 at 05:25 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Item Level 394
    Expectations: Bring my dps up at least a couple K's
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...hiest/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: http://worldoflogs.com/guilds/175415/

    Last night was a real eye-opener for me since I could no longer play the "these guys really out gear me" game to myself. On our Ultraxion pulls I could only do like 28-30k dps for some reason..granted I got Fading Light quite a few times, but when I looked at logs after the night I saw other people get it as much, if not more, than I did so that excuse flew out the window. I can already tell that my DoT uptime was pretty bad on Ultra, but they were good on the other fights for the most part yet I am still middle of the pack at best?
    'Epic gems for your epic gear' is a good motto to use, get some 50int gems into those 410s, as well as completing your Therazane rep.

    Crit is slightly better to reforge to until you get your 4 set (dem shadow word death crits), you should also change the enchants on your gloves and boots to 50 haste (puts you over the imp dp breakpoint) heroic t12 2 set would also be pretty good to use in conjunction with the t13 2 set (if you have it)

    Going off attempt 3 of H Ultrax from the 28th, you need to spend more time mind flaying, its uptime is a little low afaik.

    Realistically speaking, you're not gonna see big numbers out of your current gear although you could definitely do a little more. 4 set plus ms rotation would be good for you once you have it.
    Last edited by Lunatari; 2012-03-01 at 06:28 AM.

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  10. #370
    Hiyas!

    Item Level 393
    Expectations: Improve overall dps.
    Armory Link: eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/Vallencia/simple
    Worldoflogs Link: worldoflogs.com/reports/juf9wg1ocb0ilbn5/sum/damageDone/?s=3620&e=4175

    I have recently swapped from raiding holy to raiding shadow. I've read through the guides and made improvements in the last week and have just stumbled upon the T13 4 set rotation guide so thats something for me to have a look at. We've just hit 3/8 HC and I feel I'm letting the team down with my dps. Are there any obvious improvements I can do? My thanks in advance.
    Last edited by Tilnoom; 2012-03-01 at 01:43 PM.

  11. #371
    Item Level 398
    Expectations: Improve overall dps, im always the lowest dps on my raid.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ssera/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: ill add the link later since the last raid isnt upload yet.

    So, we are 5/8h and i have the 4p t13 set (not the best parts and 2 of them are lfr ones) and i cant figure out what im doing wrong. For example, in heroic ultraxion i hit 45k ish with the 4p t13 rotation and my dps when the first twilight goes out its 38-42k but then it just start falling apart and for the end of the fight im in 32k ish. it doesnt matter how many debuff i had and i stays out for 2 twilights only.

    edit: since i dont have the logs just yet, i want to add that we dont have all the buff in our raid setup since we dont have a mage.
    Last edited by Iseka; 2012-03-01 at 06:07 PM.

  12. #372
    Item Level 402
    Expectations: To be able to keep up with the rest of my raid in movement fights.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...s/Iei/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/heekk63wlctxxzcy/

    Reposting this as I have acquired more gear last night and these are new logs. If you take a look at Hagara, I really have no idea what to do that fight. (I also was dead at the end, but that doesn't change the fact that I flounder hopelessly.) Same thing with Yor'sahj and Zon'ozz. I have a lot of trouble adapting to any sort of movement and I feel like I lose my head and my DPS flounders. What can I do to improve my DPS on a fight, especially hagara?

    Adding- This week our ele sham dpsed and we had the 10% buff on ultraxion. My DPS was not optimal because I simmed at 34k without this buff and didn't pull higher than that. Was it a lack of dot uptime?
    Last edited by Allexiste; 2012-03-02 at 10:21 PM.

  13. #373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allexiste View Post
    Item Level 402
    Expectations: To be able to keep up with the rest of my raid in movement fights.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...s/Iei/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/heekk63wlctxxzcy/

    Reposting this as I have acquired more gear last night and these are new logs. If you take a look at Hagara, I really have no idea what to do that fight. (I also was dead at the end, but that doesn't change the fact that I flounder hopelessly.) Same thing with Yor'sahj and Zon'ozz. I have a lot of trouble adapting to any sort of movement and I feel like I lose my head and my DPS flounders. What can I do to improve my DPS on a fight, especially hagara?

    Adding- This week our ele sham dpsed and we had the 10% buff on ultraxion. My DPS was not optimal because I simmed at 34k without this buff and didn't pull higher than that. Was it a lack of dot uptime?
    First, try to get to the 3202 haste plateau. It shouldn't be that hard, since you reforged away from haste, and i'd be a great, yet easy upgrade

    The other thing I can see is that you are not using your cd-s corectly. On Hagara you started with shadowfiend, but you could have waited until the stun phase for a waaay more burst output. On Warlord it it the same, for more higher output, you should have waited until the BL. With less gear, I made a 180k dps peak this week when I used my AA, field and pot during the BL at the end, which resulted in an overall 7k gain
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  14. #374
    Item Level: 399
    Expectations: Improve DPS
    Armory: Spyd - Immortai - Lightning's Blade US
    WOL: Immortai - Lightning's Blade US*
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    I don't get DI or have a legendary so I know thats a significant DPS loss. Am I doing something wrong?Also for Warlord I have to disperse a few times to bounce the ball back to raid so my DPS is low on that fight too.
    Last edited by Ludoc; 2012-03-07 at 07:50 PM.

  15. #375
    Quote Originally Posted by Raur0s View Post
    First, try to get to the 3202 haste plateau. It shouldn't be that hard, since you reforged away from haste, and i'd be a great, yet easy upgrade

    The other thing I can see is that you are not using your cd-s corectly. On Hagara you started with shadowfiend, but you could have waited until the stun phase for a waaay more burst output. On Warlord it it the same, for more higher output, you should have waited until the BL. With less gear, I made a 180k dps peak this week when I used my AA, field and pot during the BL at the end, which resulted in an overall 7k gain
    Ok, I'm going to try what you suggested CD wise on hagara and warmaster this week! I reforged my haste and ended up at 3220!

    As far as multi-dotting/movement fights, do you have any tips to improve damage in fights like hagara or yor'sahj etc? Thanks a lot for your help
    Last edited by Allexiste; 2012-03-08 at 04:07 AM.

  16. #376
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    Item Level 395 at the time of the kill.
    Expectations: 35.5k dps from sim craft (this was pre epic gems and hc shoulder)
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...pheta/advanced
    Worldoflogs Link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/0...?s=6936&e=7231

    I know I "should" be at the 2.5k haste with the rest in mastery but I didn't really feel comfortable and don't really see that much of dps increase.

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  17. #377
    Item Level: 397
    Expectations: Improving my DPS alot.
    Armory Link:* Cant link.. : Aldiaz on Hellscream EU.
    Worlfoflogs: Sorry, i dont got any logs.

    Hey guys. Ive had a hard time keeping up with the guys in my group. Atm i´m 3/8 HC (Morchok, Yor'sahj and ultrax)
    On morchok HC im around 26k dps, 36 on yor'sahj and only 30 on Ultrax.

    Our raid team is:
    Feral Tank, Prot Paladin
    Holy Paladin, Resto Shaman, Holy Priest
    Hunter, Arms Warrior, Frost DK, combat rogue and Me as Shadow

    I got the haste valor trinket (Bottle of Wishes) And the DW staff and dagger. But i only got a 378 OH with the dagger.

    Thanks.

  18. #378
    Quote Originally Posted by aldiaz View Post
    Item Level: 397
    Expectations: Improving my DPS alot.
    Armory Link:* Cant link.. : Aldiaz on Hellscream EU.
    Worlfoflogs: Sorry, i dont got any logs.

    Hey guys. Ive had a hard time keeping up with the guys in my group. Atm i´m 3/8 HC (Morchok, Yor'sahj and ultrax)
    On morchok HC im around 26k dps, 36 on yor'sahj and only 30 on Ultrax.

    Our raid team is:
    Feral Tank, Prot Paladin
    Holy Paladin, Resto Shaman, Holy Priest
    Hunter, Arms Warrior, Frost DK, combat rogue and Me as Shadow

    I got the haste valor trinket (Bottle of Wishes) And the DW staff and dagger. But i only got a 378 OH with the dagger.

    Thanks.
    can't tell you what's wrong with no WoL... you don't have any raid buffs which*certainly*isn't helping (except for a possible +8% from the hunter, if he's even using that pet)

    gear is fine, spec is weird, but fine i guess. *I suggest running glyph of inner fire over glyph of psychic scream, helps on morchok atleast.

  19. #379
    Yes i know the raid setup is bad. What's the matter with the specc? Anything i should do different?

  20. #380
    Item Level : 397 (offspec shadow)
    Expectations: : Stop being among the worst DPS in the raid for HM Ultrax.
    Armory Link: :http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...eotes/advanced (I'll try to stay logged off in Shadow gear)
    Worldoflogs Link: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-ft...=11652&e=11985

    I raid lead for this guild, so I try to have some competence in my offspec; I've read through this thread a bunch, looked over the guides on various sites, and worked at perfecting my rotation / not hitting heroic will until ~1 second remains, but I still find myself at the bottom of the barrel. Because of the relatively poor comp (all friends, no perfect comp), I'll always lack DI and Power Infusion, but we do get the spell haste totem from our ele shaman. I could ask for tricks, but I really shouldn't have to just to do decent dps. I start Ultraxion with flaying to five stacks, popping archangel+SFiend, calling for hero, then going to town with MS/MB, followed by the standard DoT rotation. I soak HoT every 3rd time, which means my second Arch+SFiend lines up perfect with my Dispersion (which I macro to remove immediately after the HoT hits).*

    Any help would be very appreciated.
    Last edited by Atheotes; 2012-03-14 at 04:08 PM.

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