Mike Morhaime Response to Blizzard Lawsuit

Originally Posted by Zyky

. Saying this is "no more than mob mentality" is insulting to ANY rational person.

Ah ad hominem, thinly veiled.

nice

IF TRUE! ALLEGEDLY!

Why are they speaking as if it's a proven fact. Like it was proven in a court of law?!

Originally Posted by [Apok]

Ah ad hominem, thinly veiled.

nice

no it's a pretty accurate descriptor of the people who seriously cannot be bothered to read the fucking lawsuit.

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Originally Posted by Nathiest

IF TRUE! ALLEGEDLY!

Why are they speaking as if it's a proven fact. Like it was proven in a court of law?!

the state found enough evidence to take it to court... wow this is really getting pathetic.

Originally Posted by Nathiest

IF TRUE! ALLEGEDLY!

Why are they speaking as if it's a proven fact. Like it was proven in a court of law?!

Blizzard has been under investigation for 2 sodding years. The state found enough evidence to take them to the court. This isn't about whether Blizzard is guilty or not, but what we should do about it.

Originally Posted by uuuhname

no it's a pretty accurate descriptor of the people who seriously cannot be bothered to read the fucking lawsuit.

or watch one of the many accurate videos, from actual barred lawyers who have given their legal opinions on how fucked Activision-Blizzard actually is right now.

Originally Posted by Zyky

or watch one of the many accurate videos, from actual barred lawyers who have given their legal opinions on how fucked Activision-Blizzard actually is right now.

oh, I would be interested in watching those.

Originally Posted by Santti

Blizzard has been under investigation for 2 sodding years. The state found enough evidence to take them to the court. This isn't about whether Blizzard is guilty or not, but what we should do about it.

2 years and they can't name who did what. "We will find out who the defendants are in discovery". Decent chance this will be dismissed.

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

Metzen just posted.

https://twitter.com/ChrisMetzen/stat...76394546470913

Make of it what you will.

Well, it's pretty similar to Morhaime. Admission that they contributed to the culture through inaction, by being able to distance themselves from and ignore the reality of what was going on. Obviously Metzen left a few years before the mass exodus of leadership that started in 2018.

I want to believe him, Metzen seems like such a great guy. But it's hard to reconcile him having that huge of a blind spot for guys like Afrasiabi who he worked with closely, on the daily. I guess people see what they want to see, though.

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Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss

2 years and they can't name who did what. "We will find out who the defendants are in discovery". Decent chance this will be dismissed.

Two have been named already, Afrasiabi and Bridenbecker. There are I think 6-7 more to be named. Ben Kilgore is likely another of them.

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

Metzen just posted.

https://twitter.com/ChrisMetzen/stat...76394546470913

Make of it what you will.

Not listening enough is probably the best you could hope for considering the dude spent a not insubstantial amount of time coked out of his goddamn gourd in the office.

I'm glad though I was really hoping he didn't do anything directly.

Originally Posted by Kathranis

Two have been named already, Afrasiabi and Bridenbecker. There are I think 6-7 more to be named. Ben Kilgore is likely another of them.

No. Alex Afrasabi was not named as one of the 10 unnamed defendants. "Defendant DOES ONE through TEN". "DFEH is ignorant of the true names or capacities of the defendants." "DFEH will amend this complaint to allege their true names and capacities when the same are ascertained." In other words, "We did a very thorough 2 year investigation but we don't know who did anything! Let's go on a fishing expedition and we will find out who our 10 imaginary defendants are!".

Originally Posted by Kathranis

Well, it's pretty similar to Morhaime. Admission that they contributed to the culture through inaction, by being able to distance themselves from and ignore the reality of what was going on. Obviously Metzen left a few years before the mass exodus of leadership that started in 2018.

I want to believe him, Metzen seems like such a great guy. But it's hard to reconcile him having that huge of a blind spot for guys like Afrasiabi who we worked with closely, on the daily. I guess people see what they want to see, though.

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Two have been named already, Afrasiabi and Bridenbecker. There are I think 6-7 more to be named. Ben Kilgore is likely another of them.

I agree that they all were either part of it or developed a blind eye to it because they didn't want to confront or report their friends over it. So guilt by inaction. It's also strange how Bliz HR seemed so worthless in all of this. Which I think probably comes back to Morhaime as one of the women involved alleges.

Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss

No. Alex Afrasabi was not named as one of the 10 unnamed defendants. "Defendant DOES ONE through TEN". "DFEH is ignorant of the true names or capacities of the defendants." "DFEH will amend this complaint to allege their true names and capacities when the same are ascertained." In other words, "We did a very thorough 2 year investigation but we don't know who did anything! Let's go on a fishing expedition and we will find out who our 10 imaginary defendants are!".

Why are you bending over backwards to do everything you can to defend Blizzard? Are you one of their lawyers? The fact that you are looking at this lawsuit and saying "Yeah it's bull shit" is honestly sickening.

Originally Posted by Kathranis

Well, it's pretty similar to Morhaime. Admission that they contributed to the culture through inaction, by being able to distance themselves from and ignore the reality of what was going on. Obviously Metzen left a few years before the mass exodus of leadership that started in 2018.

I want to believe him, Metzen seems like such a great guy. But it's hard to reconcile him having that huge of a blind spot for guys like Afrasiabi who we worked with closely, on the daily. I guess people see what they want to see, though.

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Two have been named already, Afrasiabi and Bridenbecker. There are I think 6-7 more to be named. Ben Kilgore is likely another of them.

There's a phrase that keeps popping into my head, reading the public posts by the people involved.

Plausible deniability.

I'll stop there. Make of it what you will.

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Originally Posted by Berndorf

I agree that they all were either part of it or developed a blind eye to it because they didn't want to confront or report their friends over it. So guilt by inaction. It's also strange how Bliz HR seemed so worthless in all of this. Which I think probably comes back to Morhaime as one of the women involved alleges.

Not strange to me at all. I learned a long time ago, HR is not your friend. They exist to protect the company, especially in corporations, and I've witnessed it in person - thankfully never directly. HR, in my direct experience in several large corporations, plays extremely dirty and are the most political entity in the corporate structure, and are often blatant hypocrites, liars, and gaslighters. I won't make a personal blog about my stories, but it doesn't shock me at all that HR were 100% complicit in the things the state is alleging. And, if you read the comments by current and ex-Blizzard workers, they're afraid to reach out to HR for fear of retaliation, and have zero faith in Blizzard HR.

Everyone is calling for the public face devs to be fired/punished, but what about the faceless HR drones who hid, and enabled what the state is alleging, and direct statements from those who work/worked there? Some people have posted that some employees refused to speak to women at all, or harassed them, and HR's response was "oh, he doesn't know better", or "He's just awkward."

Unacceptable. But sadly common.

Check this one out, it's brutal.

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Those wolves were sent by the state of california

My body wasn't ready.

Originally Posted by Saltysquidoon

My body wasn't ready.

That entire video was just *chef kiss*

I think they're all full of shit, every one of these 'I'm so sorry we ran a company that had a load of douchebags' type statements.

They all knew. And if they didn't directly know, they'd allowed the culture to exist. So yeah, fuck them all.

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

HR is not your friend.

This is very important for anyone who hasn't dealt with Human Resources before.

Those words there - Human Resources - are so true. HR manages a commodity. That is, human labor. They do this for the betterment of the company. Humans are a necessary evil for a company and by extension, HR exists to corral those pesky humans. The only thing that keeps HR in check and on a human's side are fair employment regulations.

I've worked with HR professionals who will terminate an employee recognition program to save a few hundred dollars a year. When pressed about how not giving a 20 year employee a $65 chunk of acrylic with an engraving on it would somehow break the company, their answer was, "this is the policy now." This is while green-lighting regular gifts for board members.

Human resources aren't there to make good decisions for the employees. They will do the bare minimum there. They're there to keep the company flush with labor and to meet a bottom line.

I realize not all HR professionals are so cold, but in an entity as large as ActiBlizz you can bet your boopy they're not your friend.

How hard is it to not be a piece of shit?

It's so fitting too. Blizzard is one of the preachiest companies I've ever seen in my life. "Look! We added another minority to Overwatch! Look how progressive we are!" Meanwhile they're harassing real life women until they kill themselves. Disgusting.

Just goes to show, never trust anyone that talks about how great and righteous they are. Actual good people don't feel the need to tell everyone how good they are. They're too busy living their lives and actually doing good things.