Upcoming Shards of Domination Set Bonus Buffs, Spit Emote Removed on TBC Classic PTR

Originally Posted by rhorle

It just shows that there are a lot of toxic players (or even ex-players that can't let go) that when angry at Blizzard take it out on anyone they can. Which only leads them to get angrier when Blizzard does something about their harassment. Being against harassment has nothing to do with wokeness. It is just common decency.

If Blizzard ACTUALLY care about harassment then they would suspend people that use meters to shame people. They would suspend people who use rampant racial/homophobic slurs in public chats. They would suspend people who will body camp someone for hours on end.

They don't care about harassment. They got rid of the spit emote because whales were upset that people were mean to them with an emote. This is about money, not compassion.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

If Blizzard ACTUALLY care about harassment then they would suspend people that use meters to shame people. They would suspend people who use rampant racial/homophobic slurs in public chats. They would suspend people who will body camp someone for hours on end.

They don't care about harassment. They got rid of the spit emote because whales were upset that people were mean to them with an emote. This is about money, not compassion.

I don't see why it matters, you don't care about compassion either.
If you did you'd be understanding of people having fun in ways different than yours, yet you'd rather see them removed. /shrug

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

If Blizzard ACTUALLY care about harassment then they would suspend people that use meters to shame people. They would suspend people who use rampant racial/homophobic slurs in public chats. They would suspend people who will body camp someone for hours on end. They don't care about harassment. They got rid of the spit emote because whales were upset that people were mean to them with an emote. This is about money, not compassion.

The argument that they can only do something if they do everything never works. They got rid of the emote because a streamer got his followers to use it as a means to harass players. It has nothing to do with whales and you are fooling yourself if you think only whales buy collector editions.

Originally Posted by rhorle

The argument that they can only do something if they do everything never works. They got rid of the emote because a streamer got his followers to use it as a means to harass players. It has nothing to do with whales and you are fooling yourself if you think only whales buy collector editions.

It has EVERYTHING to do with whales, dude. Because when a streamer gathers people together to camp players or make them feel like shit in dungeons, nothing is ever done. But as soon as enough people are shamed for being a whale in TBCC, the emote used is suddenly disabled.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

It has EVERYTHING to do with whales, dude. Because when a streamer gathers people together to camp players or make them feel like shit in dungeons, nothing is ever done. But as soon as enough people are shamed for being a whale in TBCC, the emote used is suddenly disabled.

Buying a collectors edition does not make you a whale. Just because they didn't do something in the past doesn't mean they can't do something now.

Originally Posted by rhorle

Buying a collectors edition does not make you a whale. Just because they didn't do something in the past doesn't mean they can't do something now.

Actually, that's exactly what a whale is. People spend extra money in cash shops to get things the base game doesn't give you. So of course the company is going to cater to them. Do you just not know what a whale is?

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Actually, that's exactly what a whale is. People spend extra money in cash shops to get things the base game doesn't give you. So of course the company is going to cater to them. Do you just not know what a whale is?

No. A whale is a person that spends a significant amount of money. It is not a person that spends any amount of money. A CE is not a significant level of money spent. Using tokens to buy the AH mount would be indicative of a whale.

I post meters, this is a group game, if your dps or healing is low, compared to your peers, then you need to improve, which leads to progression and ultimately why mmos are enjoyable. You can ignore the reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring that reality, you play bad and are letting the group down, improve and reap the rewards.

Originally Posted by rhorle

No. A whale is a person that spends a significant amount of money. It is not a person that spends any amount of money. A CE is not a significant level of money spent. Using tokens to buy the AH mount would be indicative of a whale.

That's absolutely not the only definition of a whale. A whale is literally anyone who spends a good chunk of change of expensive collector's editions or people who buy all the shop mounts when they release.

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Originally Posted by Nightelfpriest

I post meters, this is a group game, if your dps or healing is low, compared to your peers, then you need to improve, which leads to progression and ultimately why mmos are enjoyable. You can ignore the reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring that reality, you play bad and are letting the group down, improve and reap the rewards.

If nobody asked for it, you're just being a jerk by posting meters. And unless you are talking about a raid group where everyone knows each other, posting meters in matchmade activity is just you being an elitist.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

That's absolutely not the only definition of a whale. A whale is literally anyone who spends a good chunk of change of expensive collector's editions or people who buy all the shop mounts when they release.

A CE is not a good chunk. You are not a whale and I bet you've bought a CE. A whale has always been a person that spends a lot of money on a game. It has never been a person that buys a collectors edition.

Originally Posted by rhorle

A CE is not a good chunk. You are not a whale and I bet you've bought a CE. A whale has always been a person that spends a lot of money on a game. It has never been a person that buys a collectors edition.

Ok well since you're clearly not willing to see any point other than your own(As usual), I'm not going to bother continuing this debate. It's blatantly clear the real reason Blizzard disabled the emote but if you want to die on your hill then so be it.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Ok well since you're clearly not willing to see any point other than your own(As usual), I'm not going to bother continuing this debate. It's blatantly clear the real reason Blizzard disabled the emote but if you want to die on your hill then so be it.

So because I won't agree with you I don't see other points? Isn't that equally true for you since you won't agree with me? You've bought CE's before yet you don't consider yourself a whale that needs to be harassed because you did so.

Originally Posted by rhorle

So because I won't agree with you I don't see other points? Isn't that equally true for you since you won't agree with me? You've bought CE's before yet you don't consider yourself a whale that needs to be harassed because you did so.

How the actual fuck do you know what I've bought? Do you have a record of my transaction history? And you don't see other people's points because even when you're blatantly wrong, you refuse to see it.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

How the actual fuck do you know what I've bought? Do you have a record of my transaction history? And you don't see other people's points because even when you're blatantly wrong, you refuse to see it.

It was a guess that looks to be true. So are you a whale? I am not blatantly wrong in this case though.

Originally Posted by rhorle

It was a guess that looks to be true. So are you a whale? I am not blatantly wrong in this case though.

Lmao except it's not true. So you are blatantly wrong about me and you are blatantly wrong about what a whale is.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Friends will typically ask. Posting meters when absolutely nobody asked is literally just you flexing and being annoying. So posting shit in chat to show off when nobody asked for it is just annoying and does nothing but serve as a way for you to try and shame other people.

I like to confuse everyone by posting the meter when i come last. What i really LOVE is if we pug one spot, and that dps pug is pretty shite, so we give him the easiest job of "tunnel the boss bro, we will sort everything out" then after we frantically run around doing all the mechanics, they post the meter and beat their chest - always reminds me of the bronze medal meme.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Lmao except it's not true. So you are blatantly wrong about me and you are blatantly wrong about what a whale is.

Is your wowhead profile the same name as here? Because it shows you've bought a CE.You don't consider yourself a whale. A whale is not anyone who spends money in a game but only those that spend excessive amounts.

Originally Posted by rhorle

Is your wowhead profile the same name as here? Because it shows you've bought a CE.You don't consider yourself a whale. A whale is not anyone who spends money in a game but only those that spend excessive amounts.

I've never purchased a CE for myself. I've only received them as gifts because I outright refuse to spend more of my own money on a game just for a mount. Whales are anyone who gleefully spend money on store items. So the people who have every single store mount, pet, and transmog are whales. People who blow their money every single expansion on the CE are also whales. Unless they're buying them with gold. That's a gray area.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

I've never purchased a CE for myself. I've only received them as gifts because I outright refuse to spend more of my own money on a game just for a mount. Whales are anyone who gleefully spend money on store items. So the people who have every single store mount, pet, and transmog are whales. People who blow their money every single expansion on the CE are also whales. Unless they're buying them with gold. That's a gray area.

So your friends are whales. Do you spit on them every time you play with them? All of the people that have the mount in classic don't fit your definition of a whale. Because they might not all have every single store mount, pet, and transmog. Yet you still said they all should be harassed.

Originally Posted by rhorle

So your friends are whales. Do you spit on them every time you play with them? All of the people that have the mount in classic don't fit your definition of a whale. Because they might not all have every single store mount, pet, and transmog. Yet you still said they all should be harassed.

So not only do you twist words but you LOVE putting words in people's mouths. I never once said people deserved to be harassed. I merely said the emote was removed to protect whales. Blizzard doesn't care about harassment. They care about who puts money in their pockets. But I'm not debating this with you anymore. You have proven you can't talk about this in good faith.