Upcoming Shards of Domination Set Bonus Buffs, Spit Emote Removed on TBC Classic PTR

I post meters, this is a group game, if your dps or healing is low, compared to your peers, then you need to improve, which leads to progression and ultimately why mmos are enjoyable. You can ignore the reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring that reality, you play bad and are letting the group down, improve and reap the rewards.

Originally Posted by rhorle

No. A whale is a person that spends a significant amount of money. It is not a person that spends any amount of money. A CE is not a significant level of money spent. Using tokens to buy the AH mount would be indicative of a whale.

That's absolutely not the only definition of a whale. A whale is literally anyone who spends a good chunk of change of expensive collector's editions or people who buy all the shop mounts when they release.

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Originally Posted by Nightelfpriest

I post meters, this is a group game, if your dps or healing is low, compared to your peers, then you need to improve, which leads to progression and ultimately why mmos are enjoyable. You can ignore the reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring that reality, you play bad and are letting the group down, improve and reap the rewards.

If nobody asked for it, you're just being a jerk by posting meters. And unless you are talking about a raid group where everyone knows each other, posting meters in matchmade activity is just you being an elitist.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

That's absolutely not the only definition of a whale. A whale is literally anyone who spends a good chunk of change of expensive collector's editions or people who buy all the shop mounts when they release.

A CE is not a good chunk. You are not a whale and I bet you've bought a CE. A whale has always been a person that spends a lot of money on a game. It has never been a person that buys a collectors edition.

Originally Posted by rhorle

A CE is not a good chunk. You are not a whale and I bet you've bought a CE. A whale has always been a person that spends a lot of money on a game. It has never been a person that buys a collectors edition.

Ok well since you're clearly not willing to see any point other than your own(As usual), I'm not going to bother continuing this debate. It's blatantly clear the real reason Blizzard disabled the emote but if you want to die on your hill then so be it.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Ok well since you're clearly not willing to see any point other than your own(As usual), I'm not going to bother continuing this debate. It's blatantly clear the real reason Blizzard disabled the emote but if you want to die on your hill then so be it.

So because I won't agree with you I don't see other points? Isn't that equally true for you since you won't agree with me? You've bought CE's before yet you don't consider yourself a whale that needs to be harassed because you did so.

Originally Posted by rhorle

So because I won't agree with you I don't see other points? Isn't that equally true for you since you won't agree with me? You've bought CE's before yet you don't consider yourself a whale that needs to be harassed because you did so.

How the actual fuck do you know what I've bought? Do you have a record of my transaction history? And you don't see other people's points because even when you're blatantly wrong, you refuse to see it.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

How the actual fuck do you know what I've bought? Do you have a record of my transaction history? And you don't see other people's points because even when you're blatantly wrong, you refuse to see it.

It was a guess that looks to be true. So are you a whale? I am not blatantly wrong in this case though.

Originally Posted by rhorle

It was a guess that looks to be true. So are you a whale? I am not blatantly wrong in this case though.

Lmao except it's not true. So you are blatantly wrong about me and you are blatantly wrong about what a whale is.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Friends will typically ask. Posting meters when absolutely nobody asked is literally just you flexing and being annoying. So posting shit in chat to show off when nobody asked for it is just annoying and does nothing but serve as a way for you to try and shame other people.

I like to confuse everyone by posting the meter when i come last. What i really LOVE is if we pug one spot, and that dps pug is pretty shite, so we give him the easiest job of "tunnel the boss bro, we will sort everything out" then after we frantically run around doing all the mechanics, they post the meter and beat their chest - always reminds me of the bronze medal meme.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Lmao except it's not true. So you are blatantly wrong about me and you are blatantly wrong about what a whale is.

Is your wowhead profile the same name as here? Because it shows you've bought a CE.You don't consider yourself a whale. A whale is not anyone who spends money in a game but only those that spend excessive amounts.

Originally Posted by rhorle

Is your wowhead profile the same name as here? Because it shows you've bought a CE.You don't consider yourself a whale. A whale is not anyone who spends money in a game but only those that spend excessive amounts.

I've never purchased a CE for myself. I've only received them as gifts because I outright refuse to spend more of my own money on a game just for a mount. Whales are anyone who gleefully spend money on store items. So the people who have every single store mount, pet, and transmog are whales. People who blow their money every single expansion on the CE are also whales. Unless they're buying them with gold. That's a gray area.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

I've never purchased a CE for myself. I've only received them as gifts because I outright refuse to spend more of my own money on a game just for a mount. Whales are anyone who gleefully spend money on store items. So the people who have every single store mount, pet, and transmog are whales. People who blow their money every single expansion on the CE are also whales. Unless they're buying them with gold. That's a gray area.

So your friends are whales. Do you spit on them every time you play with them? All of the people that have the mount in classic don't fit your definition of a whale. Because they might not all have every single store mount, pet, and transmog. Yet you still said they all should be harassed.

Originally Posted by rhorle

So your friends are whales. Do you spit on them every time you play with them? All of the people that have the mount in classic don't fit your definition of a whale. Because they might not all have every single store mount, pet, and transmog. Yet you still said they all should be harassed.

So not only do you twist words but you LOVE putting words in people's mouths. I never once said people deserved to be harassed. I merely said the emote was removed to protect whales. Blizzard doesn't care about harassment. They care about who puts money in their pockets. But I'm not debating this with you anymore. You have proven you can't talk about this in good faith.

It is truly a spectacle when two snowflakes collide. It's like watching a dividing by 0.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

So not only do you twist words but you LOVE putting words in people's mouths. I never once said people deserved to be harassed. I merely said the emote was removed to protect whales. Blizzard doesn't care about harassment. They care about who puts money in their pockets. But I'm not debating this with you anymore. You have proven you can't talk about this in good faith.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

They got rid of the spit emote because whales were upset that people were mean to them with an emote. This is about money, not compassion.

Your dismissive attitude towards harassment there clearly indicates you find it acceptable to "be mean" to whales. The emote was removed because of the harassment. If Blizzard doesn't care about harassment then they wouldn't need to protect whales from it. Lol.

Originally Posted by rhorle

Your dismissive attitude towards harassment there clearly indicates you find it acceptable to "be mean" to whales. The emote was removed because of the harassment. If Blizzard doesn't care about harassment then they wouldn't need to protect whales from it. Lol.

If Blizzard cared about harassment, they would take action against people that spew racial slurs. They would take action against people body camping other players, preventing them from playing the game. they would take action against griefers IN GENERAL. But they don't. They got rid of the /spit emote because enough whales whined about it.

And once again, you are putting words in my mouth and prove you can't talk about this subject in good faith.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

If Blizzard cared about harassment, they would take action against people that spew racial slurs. They would take action against people body camping other players, preventing them from playing the game. they would take action against griefers IN GENERAL. But they don't. They got rid of the /spit emote because enough whales whined about it.

So they can only care about harassment if they take action against everything? Why would Blizzard protect them from harassment if they don't actually do anything about harassment? Blizzard does take action against harassment all the time. As much as they need to? Nope. But it does happen.

https://gamerant.com/world-warcraft-...d-live-twitch/
https://classic.wowhead.com/news/bli...ruption-317204
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...g_in_pvp_zone/
https://www.wowhead.com/news/chat-mo...d-words-321894

There is also https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/bliz...s-and-partners where they claim to have banned over 30,000 accounts for toxicity and hate speech. So yeah about that no action what so ever. You are dismissive of the harassment that took place because you keep labeling them whining whales rather then just players.

Fixing that /spit harassment a lot quicker than fixing that sexual harassment...

Don't want to discourage users from buying a boosted mount...

kK, i'll just /slap them instead.

Seriously just such an empty gesture.

Originally Posted by mitre27

kK, i'll just /slap them instead.

Seriously just such an empty gesture.

Exactly, it's absolutely pointless.

/spit banned? time to spam /slap
/slap banned? time to spam /stink
/stink banned? time to spam /smell
/smell banned? time to spam /rude
/rude banned? time to spam /rasp
/rasp banned? time to spam /embarrass

What are they going to do, block every single emote that has negative connotations?