Conduit Energy Hotfixed
Conduit Energy has been hotfixed on live servers and now refills at the rate of 10 per day. EU servers will get this hotfix tomorrow, after the weekly maintenance.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
I just noticed my energy (Which was at 0 this morning), is now capped (all 10 crystals).

They must have just hot-fixed this, can anyone confirm?

I am so excited that I can finally start playing the game. Thank you!


Hello.

It’s confirmed that a hotfix was deployed that made Conduit energy refill at the rate of 10 per day. It was previously 1 per day.

It looks like the hotfix needed realm restarts to take effect, so now that all realms in this region have been restarted with maintenance, everyone should be seeing the results.

Please note that the tooltip has not been updated. Nonetheless, all Conduit energy should refill each day with the daily reset.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Conduit Energy Hotfixed started by Lumy View original post
Comments 38 Comments
  1. Ealyssa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    ...why not just remove it now instead of waiting for the next patch.
    Because removing something needs a patch ? And a patch needs to be tested on a PTR before being pushed to release ? Which is exactly what they are currently doing ?

    I know average gamers aren't the brightest people in the world, but god please THINK.
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by JSoup View Post
    Often enough that 1 recharge per day wasn't enough for the average player.
    Nah, the average player literally never changes conduits, you are thinking of the above average.

    The average player is lfr/normal, you really think they are changing their conduits more then once a day?
  1. Magnagarde's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Nah, the average player literally never changes conduits, you are thinking of the above average.

    The average player is lfr/normal, you really think they are changing their conduits more then once a day?
    Depending on class, spec and sims overall, many players who tackle far more difficult content than that didn't bother with it either. I don't know what it is like now with 9.1, but I know that I didn't have to change anything most of the time on my hunter.
  1. Niwes's Avatar
    i dont get whats all about that conduit energy. maybe i play the „wrong“ classes (in my 15+ mythic dungeons and 1/10m and 10/10hc raids). all the classes i play have 1 cookie cutter build for m+ (AoE build) and one for raiding (ST build). sometimes i can even use a second spec paired with a second conduit/soulbind. so i just have to switch specs and not even the soulbind-char at all.

    anyway, i never was in the situation to go „omg, now i have to do x and have to change actual conduits on my active soulbind. i play 3 chars with 5-6 specs on 15+ and 10/10 hc. maybe that super microlense minmaxing comes only in higher mythic raiding or +20 keys to its full potential.

    at least i for myself never did much conduit changing at all. so i not really get whats up with all that big conduit energy change hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    Depending on class, spec and sims overall, many players who tackle far more difficult content than that didn't bother with it either. I don't know what it is like now with 9.1, but I know that I didn't have to change anything most of the time on my hunter.
    yeah, i would say thats exactly what i behave since day 1. and i never felt like „damn, i do too less heal/dps in comparrisson“. idk…

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcryix View Post
    Changing a single value (rate of refill) is very easy. removing the code for the whole program is clearly not something they can do without issuing a patch and they DO NOT patch the game for trivial stuff like this, especially when there is a PTR with the official code change in place and being tested.

    The goal of removing conduit energy is so that players can swap as much as they want right? Changing the replenishment rate NOW helps accomplish that goal fast and is an outside the box move that we should be encouraging them to do more of. Don't be so negative
    exactly this.

    addition: for all the ppl that dont understand how wow works: they just changed a value in the database on their servers. that database entry controls the refill rate of the energy. your client pc asks this database over internet everytime you log in (or open the soulbind ui). so by increasing this server database value, they instantly (more or less) refill your energy bar. if they wanna remove the whole energy thing, they have to patch the game files on your client pc (by a patch).

    since they can just turn a knob on their central servers (the database entry containing the refill value), they just can change it NOW, so bar refills „instantly“ to produce NOW a similar effect as removing the whole energy code on client pc (what they do with next patch 9.1.5).
  1. deenman's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    I suppose that's a fair-ish point, although it's most always an exception and not the rule. Although it has happened more often than not in WoW, a UI change should not be breaking 10 things in-game.
    They clearly arent hiring the best people....believe me...i know people

    no but seriously,what do you expect,the game uses the warcraft 3 engine,this is ALMOST as bad as the bethesda fossil,have you seen how in those games anything can literaly break?even after 11 skyrim releaseses the day 1 bugs still exist
  1. Niwes's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chakah View Post
    Because changing a rate is a simple atomic change. Removing it completely has to impact things like the UI, the conduit socketing code that uses the energy, covenant swapping most likely, and probably other stuff.

    I'm just surprised they didn't change the rate to 1 refill per second. (Maybe the code that refills it only run every 24 hours... *shrug* )
    But this is a decent change regardless.
    see my post above. i assume the refill value is fetched only once a day from the central blizz server (the one that gets the value from the database and send it to client pc). so it doesnt matter, even when they set the refill rate to 32.768 or 4 billions, since the value is just fetched once per day. the effect is always: once per day the client pc is told „your bar is full“. thats how it works.
  1. ohwell's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwes View Post
    i dont get whats all about that conduit energy. maybe i play the „wrong“ classes (in my 15+ mythic dungeons and 1/10m and 10/10hc raids). all the classes i play have 1 cookie cutter build for m+ (AoE build) and one for raiding (ST build). sometimes i can even use a second spec paired with a second conduit/soulbind. so i just have to switch specs and not even the soulbind-char at all.

    anyway, i never was in the situation to go „omg, now i have to do x and have to change actual conduits on my active soulbind. i play 3 chars with 5-6 specs on 15+ and 10/10 hc. maybe that super microlense minmaxing comes only in higher mythic raiding or +20 keys to its full potential.

    at least i for myself never did much conduit changing at all. so i not really get whats up with all that big conduit energy change hype.

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    yeah, i would say thats exactly what i behave since day 1. and i never felt like „damn, i do too less heal/dps in comparrisson“. idk…

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    exactly this.

    addition: for all the ppl that dont understand how wow works: they just changed a value in the database on their servers. that database entry controls the refill rate of the energy. your client pc asks this database over internet everytime you log in (or open the soulbind ui). so by increasing this server database value, they instantly (more or less) refill your energy bar. if they wanna remove the whole energy thing, they have to patch the game files on your client pc (by a patch).

    since they can just turn a knob on their central servers (the database entry containing the refill value), they just can change it NOW, so bar refills „instantly“ to produce NOW a similar effect as removing the whole energy code on client pc (what they do with next patch 9.1.5).
    No it's not just you or the classes/specs you play. The person who the blue post replied to is 100% ridiculous in their "omg I can actually play the game now" because if you're constantly dropping to 0 energy, you're doing something INCREDIBLY wrong to need to do that. The dps/tank/healing difference between at least 2 of the soulbinds is relatively close to where you're not losing THAT much if nearly anything to actually just set up one for each spec. About the only one that could maybe complain is a druid who wants to play all 4 specs, but that's just asking to burn yourself out anyway.

    The levels of melodrama people on these and the official forums have been making about all of this is utterly ridiculous. At least wowhead has been deleting comments that are just unnecessarily pessimistic and pissy and I normally would disagree with that practice, but at this point MMOC needs to delete/infract the people who spout the nonsense like the person the blue post replied to was saying on top of anyone who sits and spouts "bad writing" etc yet somehow can't articulate exactly why.
  1. muto's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaHandsB View Post
    9 months overdue.
    Yeah shouldn’t have been restricted to begin with, but then I guess it wouldn’t be “content” later on.
  1. JSoup's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Nah, the average player literally never changes conduits, you are thinking of the above average.

    The average player is lfr/normal, you really think they are changing their conduits more then once a day?
    That was the point I was making to Hellobolis' overblown estimation. Hardly anyone thinks about this crap after setting it once, maybe a change here or there way down the line.
  1. kamuimac's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Nah, the average player literally never changes conduits, you are thinking of the above average.

    The average player is lfr/normal, you really think they are changing their conduits more then once a day?
    the irony when im doing 19s and clearing hc sod which already puts me way above average and i literlay never changed conduits on any of my toons ;P

    people blow this stuff way out of proportion - it never affected more then 1 % of players.
  1. Trumpcat's Avatar
    I forgot conduit energy exists and the other day I went to change the place of two conduits to make use of the empowerment and was like "oh, this was a thing".

    I haven't stopped playing the game since SL released btw, but lack of content has nearly driven me to, not the conduit energy.
  1. uncl55's Avatar
    Removing Conduit energy is definitely nice, but is there really someone who runs out of energy often?
  1. paxen's Avatar
    Conduit energy was meaningless for 99% of the population and a huge roadblock for the remaining 1%. Seems like a good thing to get rid of. Why would you want a system that is either pointless or a huge annoyance in your game?
  1. Wekko's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Fabled View Post
    It still blows my mind people change out conduits that often for it to even be an issue.
    Try being a priest with a dps heal spec, a heal heal spec, and a dps spec. The conduit recharge is why I only played 2 of the specs at any given time.
  1. darklogrus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by davidcryix View Post
    Changing a single value (rate of refill) is very easy. removing the code for the whole program is clearly not something they can do without issuing a patch and they DO NOT patch the game for trivial stuff like this, especially when there is a PTR with the official code change in place and being tested.

    The goal of removing conduit energy is so that players can swap as much as they want right? Changing the replenishment rate NOW helps accomplish that goal fast and is an outside the box move that we should be encouraging them to do more of. Don't be so negative
    A "very easy" value they could have changed at any time in the past 10 months..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbleedinggums View Post
    You're the type of person that thinks that retail workers just have "extra stock" in the back if the shelves are empty, don't you?
    You'd be surprised how much stuff they don't put out in hopes you will just buy the other brand..
  1. davidcryix's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by darklogrus View Post
    A "very easy" value they could have changed at any time in the past 10 months..
    Yes and instead of making us wait for 9.1.5 to come out to effectively change conduit energy, they made a cool change that immediately makes it better for everyone. And admitted the system wasn't working the way they wanted. Like...what else do you want? Team "no conduit energy" not only won but scored a safety. If you were on that team, no reason being a miserable bore about it at this point.
  1. Chakah's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwes View Post
    see my post above. i assume the refill value is fetched only once a day from the central blizz server (the one that gets the value from the database and send it to client pc). so it doesnt matter, even when they set the refill rate to 32.768 or 4 billions, since the value is just fetched once per day. the effect is always: once per day the client pc is told „your bar is full“. thats how it works.
    Thread is mostly dead, but I'm not sure you fully read my post since I said specifically "Maybe the code that refills it only run every 24 hours"
    We are assuming the same thing... lol

    The better way of hotfixing it would have been to set the energy cost of a change to 0 so the player is always at full energy, but since they didn't do that, I'm guessing the code isn't fully factored like that. Maybe their systems developers can learn a lesson from this.
  1. Niwes's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chakah View Post
    Thread is mostly dead, but I'm not sure you fully read my post since I said specifically "Maybe the code that refills it only run every 24 hours"
    We are assuming the same thing... lol

    The better way of hotfixing it would have been to set the energy cost of a change to 0 so the player is always at full energy, but since they didn't do that, I'm guessing the code isn't fully factored like that. Maybe their systems developers can learn a lesson from this.
    hey, yes, i read that. it shouldnt sound like i disagree. i just replied your post to add some details. not to disagree or comment or something. sorry. so, yes, we talk about the same here.

    i asume they did it this way (as you did asume too), because they have no central server database entry, to control the costs. i strongly asume the costs are hardcoded on the client, as one of many variables/constants. or maybe in a config file, but nontheless in a client config file. so they cant change it, without patching the client.

    i assume this, because when you program this, you assume that in future maybe the refill time can change and they want a central dedicated knob, to control the refill speed. while the cost is something you rather asume will stay mostly the same.

    since you can not make EVERYTHING on the client side controlable by database entries, there they draw the line. ofc you CAN build a rather stupid client side, just containing the „logic code“ while the COMPLETE config comes from the server. but this produces some problems, like lags, or giant long login timespans, etc. so you have to do something rather central, as knobs (mostly 5-30% of all config) and the rest of the config values are hardcoded (or in client config) and patchable, because the chance is low that you change it often. and its not a tragedy, to need a patch, when you change some config values, once in an xpacs lifetime. but „scalable“ knobs, you maybe wanna turn often, to adapt gameplay, is something that you do central on servers (in database).

    i asume, as you said too, thats what happens here.

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