Diablo II: Resurrected Datamined Cinematics for Act III, Act IV and Act V

hard pass for this, Done it on original diablo 2 and every classes. Why do i need to revisit my nostalgia again? Is it cuz of qql being added and sparks?

...really?

The spoilers ahead, in red?

BWAHAHAHA...

Hard pass. They turned the amazon into a man and removed the dead bodies of concubines in act 2 harem

Originally Posted by Th3Scourge

Hard pass. They turned the amazon into a man and removed the dead bodies of concubines in act 2 harem

Do you....not know what Amazons look like in mythology?

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Do you....not know what Amazons look like in mythology?

Do you... not know what the Amazon looked like in the real D2?

Originally Posted by Alayea

Not the first time the blood/gore has been toned down for a remastered Blizzard game. You can definitely see the difference between the original and "reforged" versions for the WarCraft III introduction cinematic.

the Dryad's "I'm so wasted" pissed line was also censored off

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anyway; now that D2R has been completed, the Vicarious Visions better start fixing Reforged

ladder? just ask Pat for help with his Warcraft 3 Champions
graphics? just ask Zorrot for help with his Quenching mod
custom campaign? ask Zorrot again
reforged campaign? ask InsaneMonster for making an actual "Reforged" campaign

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Do you....not know what Amazons look like in mythology?

The creators made the model more then 25 years ago and they saw her as a nice looking blond. To turn her into a she-male is not respectful toward the source material.

It is like turning the Orcs in Warcraft suddenly into small weak creature just because they are in other media like Lord of the rings.

Originally Posted by Th3Scourge

Do you... not know what the Amazon looked like in the real D2?

The Amazong in D2 was high sexualized and didn't look like Amazons from mythology

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Originally Posted by tromage2

The creators made the model more then 25 years ago and they saw her as a nice looking blond. To turn her into a she-male is not respectful toward the source material.

It is like turning the Orcs in Warcraft suddenly into small weak creature just because the in other media like Lord of the rings.

So if a woman is muscular that makes her a shemale? Are you fucking kidding me?

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

The Amazong in D2 was high sexualized and didn't look like Amazons from mythology

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So if a woman is muscular that makes her a shemale? Are you fucking kidding me?

It is not only muscular, the face is also looking male.
It has all the male structures on them if you ever had to draw a face at school you know what I mean.

Originally Posted by tromage2

It is not only muscular, the face is also looking male.
It has all the male structures on them if you ever had to draw a face at school you know what I mean.

So because she doesn't look insanely attractive, that makes her male. Ok. Your sexist attitude would fit right in at Blizzard.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

So because she doesn't look insanely attractive, that makes her male. Ok. Your sexist attitude would fit right in at Blizzard.

No, it is because she look like a man. God I hate 21 century and your pathetic generation of snowflakes.

Originally Posted by natham

No, it is because she look like a man. God I hate 21 century and your pathetic generation of snowflakes.

She looks like an average white woman in her 40s.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

She looks like an average white woman in her 40s.

Where the hell do you live???

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

The Amazong in D2 was high sexualized and didn't look like Amazons from mythology

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So if a woman is muscular that makes her a shemale? Are you fucking kidding me?

1. Good. She wasn't the Amazons from mythology. She was the Amazon from D2.

2. I don't know if you've ever been in the bodybuilding scene, but her facial features perfectly resemble the women that are smashing the test hard.

She looks like a woman in her mid thirties that's lived a hard life, which fits? I don't get the issue.

On the topic of the actual cinematics though: I find the one for act 4 disappointing. The music played a much larger role in the original and is more subdued here, Mephisto is also less animate is his movement compared to the old cinematic.

Act 5 I agree with other posters, Baal's attitude feels different in this, it still works well though imo, just more malevolence in comparison.

Originally Posted by Th3Scourge

1. Good. She wasn't the Amazons from mythology. She was the Amazon from D2.

2. I don't know if you've ever been in the bodybuilding scene, but her facial features perfectly resemble the women that are smashing the test hard.

The Amazon in D2 was based on the mythology. Straight down to her focus on javelins and bows. Just say you've never read mythology and be done with it. And no her face doesn't look like that. She looks like a woman in her 40s that's seem some shit and that tracks.

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Originally Posted by natham

Where the hell do you live???

Earth? Where do YOU live?

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

The Amazon in D2 was based on the mythology. Straight down to her focus on javelins and bows. Just say you've never read mythology and be done with it. And no her face doesn't look like that. She looks like a woman in her 40s that's seem some shit and that tracks.

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Earth? Where do YOU live?

Look like the only woman over 40 you have ever seen is your mother.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

The Amazon in D2 was based on the mythology.

Aren't the amazons on mythology described (and most commonly depicted) as beautiful?

Insisting on the mythology is missing the point though. D2 has a clear representation of the Amazon, independent of whether it matches or not the mythology. D2R is supposed to be faithful to D2, not to mythology. At the moment, in this respect, it's not.

Originally Posted by Kolvarg

Aren't the amazons on mythology described (and most commonly depicted) as beautiful?

Insisting on the mythology is missing the point though. D2 has a clear representation of the Amazon, independent of whether it matches or not the mythology. D2R is supposed to be faithful to D2, not to mythology. At the moment, in this respect, it's not.

No. they're described as strong women who excelled in horseback riding and archery. They were also said to be as strong and fast as men though often surpassing them. They're also described as being super tall. And I'm pretty sure the reason for the change was to be more in line with mythology and get away from oversexualizing women.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

No. they're described as strong women who excelled in horseback riding and archery. They were also said to be as strong and fast as men though often surpassing them. They're also described as being super tall. And I'm pretty sure the reason for the change was to be more in line with mythology and get away from oversexualizing women.

None of those, apart from height, are really descriptive of appearance - and height is not really relevant in this context. Looking at statues and depictions of amazons, they don't really seem different from the female beauty standard of the time, they certainly don't seem particularly less feminine or beautiful. Though that could be my untrained eye, I suppose.

The key here is that there is a clear change, regardless of the reason. You can like or dislike the change, and agree or disagree with the reasons - but I don't think it's hard to understand why some people don't want any change at all given that it's a remaster that's been put forward as faithful to the original.

Edit: Also, a female character being attractive and/or beautiful is not necessarily sexualized. They could have reduced some of her exaggerated features without completely changing how her face looks.