New Fresh Start Realms with Wrath Classic

Originally Posted by Goat7

Lol the trickery behind this.

This is just another way to sell microtransactions.

Day 91: boosts available to purchase and transfers of toons available to these realms. going to be a hot item, cause aint nobody who level'd in classic and season of mastery, or been playing in BC, really trying to level again in vanilla and bc.

"we expect there to be a lot of new Classic players joining us for the first time in Wrath of the Lich King" with no LFG tool I highly doubt this. Plz show us where you got this info from? these servers are not going to have a lot of ppl. try hards will transfer here on day 91 to try and be gods and control auction house as well. the poor bastards who lvld dps and can find no tanks or healers for groups will pay to boost another class.

snatch n grab is all this is

You did it. You figured it out man. You've cracked the DaVinci Code.

{capitalist company whose single motivation for existence is profit} is, in fact, operating in a manner which will yield profits. Nevermind the fact that a sizeable portion of the playerbase has expressed concerns about the impact of existing realms and the consolidation of wealth via GDKP runs and wanton unchecked botting. Nah. Those aren't REAL concerns. The only thing that REALLY matters is that Blizzard, a company motivated only by profit, is inexplicably doing just that. If only we lived in a world where GAMERS could game without having to deal with prickly things like multinational corporations paying their developers a livable wage then we may very well live in a perfect society. If only.

F R E S H W H E N

good decision. the economy would otherwise be hard f**ked

For sure i will play a fresh PVE server, but i hope that there will be never transfer allowed... as people with amani bear will be douchebags and many many other things which are not obtainable in wotlk anymore.

Originally Posted by SinR

"Left Behind"

Wut

"Even Playing Field"

Wut Wut

I'm sorry that's what an EXPANSION LAUNCH is for. To even out the playing field for the people that were late to the party for Vanilla:C or TBC:C

Nobody is going to willingly give up ~4 years of Progression just because "I WANT F R E S H ! ! !". I'm not giving up my completely legitimately gotten gold and gear that I got by boosting people in Stratholme and GDKPs, and im pretty sure nobody else will.

in before "but I wanted it" and that's good. Enjoy playing with the COMMUNITY

OOO so you're one of those boosters that helped destroy the community.

Lock these servers. Don't allow xfers to them 90 days later.. ppl will just go there with gold cap and control the whole market. No transfers and no boosts on the fresh servers. Even then, I doubt it will last that long.

This is awesome, will definitely play on one.

I quit TBCC during Phase 2 and haven't played since then. It's just ridiculous to see how much some people are preping for Wrath right now, just how it was with TBC. You just feel being really behind all these people.

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Originally Posted by SinR

As I said, nobody is going to want to give up their completely legitimately gotten Gold and progress in the name of "Playing Fair" with people that are just coming back for Wrath Classic. And people will riot if the second idea you have is even proposed by Blizzard.

We all know that these fresh realms will be a lot more popular and that this is where most of the community is going to be. You just don't want to admit it, because understandably you'll be therefor losing your progression thus far. But people will play there and eventually the entire classic community will be on these fresh realms.

Originally Posted by Zarathos

Classic can burn in hell...since classic retail patches are longer because they rely on classic releases...I'm not even touching classic with a stick to pick trash

The incompetence of the Retail team is squarely on the shoulder's of the Retail team.

The only people benefitting from Classic in that regard are the ones counting the dollars.
At best, it would put more pressure onto the team but that wouldn't result in more content within months.

Originally Posted by kamuimac

stupid idea - they are creating those dead on arrival realms to capitalise on peopel transfering for money later to be able to play .

or, they are giving players a chance to avoid toxic players/guilds that will be immediately selling carries and BoE's from day one.
give the players a chance to build some communities from the ground up rather than off the remnants of the previous expansions try hards.

fresh is good for alot of players, if its not for you, bugger off

i will say, not allowing transfers, period, would be the way to go here. that would attract and keep a very solid community of players and maybe even bring back a healthy RP element to the game.

the only people unhappy about this are the sellers, AH bot users, gold hoarders that cant use their piles of G to carry them through each expansion.

Originally Posted by Djaye

give the players a chance to build some communities from the ground up rather than off the remnants of the previous expansions try hards.

4 months before everyone is crying there arent decent people to play with and they are gonna pay $ upon $ to transfer to the active servers cause there will be actually interested players instead of game hoppers for 1 month and then dead servers.

I love how you people act that basically being bad, and finding other bad players, is somehow an enjoyable experience.

Logic always baffles me.

Nice. I'll be rolling there. If only to pass some time till Dragonflight launch.

I'll take the opportunity to play a fresh server during the pre patch while my other lvl 70s are chilling. If i can reach 70 during the pre patch, which I think I can with my current leveling times, I might just go all the way on the fresh server.

And to the people complaining, If you dont want to play a fresh server well surprise.... you dont have to.

Idk how some of yall pay monthly for a game just to crap on it any chance u get. I'd hate to live in that kind of delusion.

Imagine wanting to play through the trash-heap of Vanilla yet again.

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Originally Posted by Djaye

or, they are giving players a chance to avoid toxic players/guilds that will be immediately selling carries and BoE's from day one.
give the players a chance to build some communities from the ground up rather than off the remnants of the previous expansions try hards.

You're implying anyone that Tryhards wouldn't still hit 70 in 1/4 of the time of everyone else, then corner the market on a new community and only accelerate the fresh start servers Economic death even harder.

Originally Posted by Yooginava182

OOO so you're one of those boosters that helped destroy the community.

So its the sellers who ruined the community, not the purchasers? interesting.

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Originally Posted by Super Kami Dende

Imagine wanting to play through the trash-heap of Vanilla yet again.

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Well....thats literally what classic was for a lot of people so......yeah, some people absolutely will. Remember, there was demand for fresh classic servers once all the content was out - people who had just done it literally asked to do it again.

An OK idea until they put in the 90 days until transfers thing. Effectively gives these realms a 90 day life span.

So you can play for 90 days until it gets chopped. Better make realms with no transfer ever.

As others have said, fresh start realms are a great idea but completely pointless if you allow transfers after 90 days.

Makes no difference. After like a month those Realms will look just like all the others. Especially when Wrath Launches. I just wonder how stuff like AQ Opening will work on those.

Originally Posted by SinR

As I said, nobody is going to want to give up their completely legitimately gotten Gold and progress in the name of "Playing Fair" with people that are just coming back for Wrath Classic. And people will riot if the second idea you have is even proposed by Blizzard.

You sir are delusional. People don't want to deal with the bots / gdkp scum is that hard to believe???? People want dungeons to mean something and not smash everything with sunwell gear. WOTLK makes tons of new specs viable and brings a lot to the table. Yeah I have 2 fully geared toons and sitting on 25k gold but fresh would be so beneficial to enjoyability. I will not resub for wotlk because boosts / xfer will be available to "new" realm making it meaningless.

Originally Posted by zaphh

You sir are delusional. People don't want to deal with the bots / gdkp scum is that hard to believe???? People want dungeons to mean something and not smash everything with sunwell gear. WOTLK makes tons of new specs viable and brings a lot to the table. Yeah I have 2 fully geared toons and sitting on 25k gold but fresh would be so beneficial to enjoyability. I will not resub for wotlk because boosts / xfer will be available to "new" realm making it meaningless.

This, 100% this.

I played all classic but did very few GDKP runs because I had a stable raiding guild. The guild didn't survive the transition to TBC and P1 TBC saw me playing with the 11-13 core raiders that remained. We leveled, did our 70 dungeons and reps, farmed out what little badge gear we needed and regularly run Kara and pugged the rest of the group for Gruuls and Mag. I got my BIS set as a Hunter (minus DST) and hung around until there was only 4 of the group left and we weren't running things together anymore. Then I took a break. When I came back in P3, I couldn't even get a heroic group let alone any T5 pugs, it was entirely GDKP and I didn't have enough gold to bid let alone win anything because I hadn't stayed and played the 'lets farm the gold buyers' game.

TBC is beyond fuber. They either need to reset gold(pointless because the sinks are already done and dusted) or start fresh servers to extend the life.

I'd consider it if the LFD tool was present on these new realms.

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Originally Posted by A Blue Smurf

This, 100% this.

I played all classic but did very few GDKP runs because I had a stable raiding guild. The guild didn't survive the transition to TBC and P1 TBC saw me playing with the 11-13 core raiders that remained. We leveled, did our 70 dungeons and reps, farmed out what little badge gear we needed and regularly run Kara and pugged the rest of the group for Gruuls and Mag. I got my BIS set as a Hunter (minus DST) and hung around until there was only 4 of the group left and we weren't running things together anymore. Then I took a break. When I came back in P3, I couldn't even get a heroic group let alone any T5 pugs, it was entirely GDKP and I didn't have enough gold to bid let alone win anything because I hadn't stayed and played the 'lets farm the gold buyers' game.

TBC is beyond fuber. They either need to reset gold(pointless because the sinks are already done and dusted) or start fresh servers to extend the life.

Totally feel ya there...guild broke up at Mount Hyjal, and there I was trying to get a spot as a hunter in another raiding guild that'd been together for almost 2 years. Even on a relatively big realm like Whitemane, there were very few non-gdkp runs taking place for even heroics. I just ended up doing pvp most of the time and even that got too boring to justify the sub for me. I was really looking forward to the LFD tool in wrath, but they ditched that so I'm done.