The Storm-Eater’s Fury - Raszageth Confronts Alexstrasza Dragonflight In-game Cinemat

Dragons are ventriloquists now? Nice!

They really just CANNOT make good villains, can they. This is some generic-ass bullshit once again, ticking every trope imaginable. Yawn.

...but the animation is decently done.

...Am I the only one who feels like these newer cutscenes just don't have the same sort of impact as some of the older ones?

Take Wrathgate for example. By the end of that, one character had died, another character's fate was left ambiguous, and the forsaken's betrayal from within was revealed, leading to the Battle for the Undercity event.

Now this. Alexstrasza and Raszageth fought, the former lost, Wrathion showed up, and then Razsageth just... left? What ultimately happened by the end of the cinematic? Nothing of importance, it feels like.

At least she has decent understandable motivations; but proto drakes will always look immeasurably silly, and her visual design isn't doing any favors.

Wrathion still needs to hurry up and get killed off unceremoniously, as he should have been years ago.

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Originally Posted by Skirdus

...Am I the only one who feels like these newer cutscenes just don't have the same sort of impact as some of the older ones?

Take Wrathgate for example. By the end of that, one character had died, another character's fate was left ambiguous, and the forsaken's betrayal from within was revealed, leading to the Battle for the Undercity event.

Now this. Alexstrasza and Raszageth fought, the former lost, Wrathion showed up, and then Razsageth just... left? What ultimately happened by the end of the cinematic? Nothing of importance, it feels like.

It's because the writers are obsessed with drama for drama's sake: empty platitudes with no weight. It is easy to make plenty of cinematics with characters just talking and being emotional without any actual outcome. It is hard to create something that actually has a tangible impact on the world.

Of course, in this case, the point of this cinematic is really just to introduce the villain for any who did not see her in the evoker starting area. Even so; it perhaps ought have done something more.

Originally Posted by Skirdus

...Am I the only one who feels like these newer cutscenes just don't have the same sort of impact as some of the older ones?

Take Wrathgate for example. By the end of that, one character had died, another character's fate was left ambiguous, and the forsaken's betrayal from within was revealed, leading to the Battle for the Undercity event.

Now this. Alexstrasza and Raszageth fought, the former lost, Wrathion showed up, and then Razsageth just... left? What ultimately happened by the end of the cinematic? Nothing of importance, it feels like.

So they gotta kill a person every single cinematic i guess?

also you remember the exact same happened in the wrathgate right?
"Alliance and scourge fought, former lost, horde shows up, then lich king shows up, then forsaken showed up, then lich king just left?"

Originally Posted by FelPlague

also you remember the exact same happened in the wrathgate right?
"Alliance and scourge fought, former lost, horde shows up, then lich king shows up, then forsaken showed up, then lich king just left?"

You kind of intentionally left out all the important details I mentioned

So Raszageth beats Wrathion and spares him then later on beats Alexstrasza and spares her. I don't think Raszageth wants to win.

Originally Posted by qwerty123456

So Raszageth beats Wrathion and spares him then later on beats Alexstrasza and spares her. I don't think Raszageth wants to win.

Ah, Bond Villain Stupidity. Where would this narrative be without you?

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Originally Posted by oldgeezer

Dragons are ventriloquists now? Nice!

I do find that strange. Their lips have moved in conversation before, right?

Close your eyes during playback and it's suddenly a Jurassic Park spin-off.

Originally Posted by oldgeezer

Dragons are ventriloquists now? Nice!

never heard of telepathy?

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Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel

I do find that strange. Their lips have moved in conversation before, right?

Yes but when talking they will also use telpathy, usually a good way to make sure they are heard when speaking 1 to 1.

Originally Posted by qwerty123456

So Raszageth beats Wrathion and spares him then later on beats Alexstrasza and spares her. I don't think Raszageth wants to win.

"I want you to watch everything burn" is always such a dumb villain motivation.

Originally Posted by Myradin

"I want you to watch everything burn" is always such a dumb villain motivation.

This entire setup is just trope after trope.

-sibling rivalry
-villain defeated, but not killed and only imprisoned
-everyone keeps quiet about it for no reason until it comes back to bite them
-hero seems to be winning, then villain does a Big Boom and floors hero
-hero seems to be losing, "on your left!" ally swoops in
-villain decides to let hero live
-"I want you to watch it all burn!"

Like seriously, it's as if they looked at the WoW story so far and went "you know what, maybe we haven't made our narratives formulaic enough lately!".

Originally Posted by FelPlague

never heard of telepathy?

Have Dragons canonically used telepathy frequently before now?

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Originally Posted by Biomega

This entire setup is just trope after trope.

To be fair, it's not the tropes alone—it's how they're played. Something can be chock-full of tropes but still be entertaining or even interesting. The issue is that they're not playing with them or leaning into them enough for it to be really unique and entertaining.

I say that, given the direction of the narrative now, they may honestly have more success just leaning into the cheese excessively and having fun with it instead of the rather dour way every character's expressed themselves and whatnot.

Raszageth looks like a buck-toothed goof with pubes glued to her head... she doesn't even look scary, she just looks stupid.

Not every cutscene needs to kill an important character, reveal a plot twist, and show your favorite character all while having the most epic fight yet.

Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel

Have Dragons canonically used telepathy frequently before now?

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To be fair, it's not the tropes alone—it's how they're played. Something can be chock-full of tropes but still be entertaining or even interesting. The issue is that they're not playing with them or leaning into them enough for it to be really unique and entertaining.

I say that, given the direction of the narrative now, they may honestly have more success just leaning into the cheese excessively and having fun with it instead of the rather dour way every character's expressed themselves and whatnot.

Yes dragons have always had telepathy.

Originally Posted by whyabadi

Not every cutscene needs to kill an important character, reveal a plot twist, and show your favorite character all while having the most epic fight yet.

"Not every scene needs to have something at stake, just give me dragon fight! Pew. kablam-O!" -- Michael Bay if he were writing Warcraft.

Originally Posted by FelPlague

then lich king just left?"

I know all that blizz cock sucking you do on the regular must have left you blind or retarded by now, but the LK left because the plague actually hurt him

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Originally Posted by zknm7

Raszageth looks like a buck-toothed goof with pubes glued to her head... she doesn't even look scary, she just looks stupid.

Rasz is a winged graboid

Originally Posted by Leyre

Rasz is a winged graboid

Weren't they called Assblasters?

Originally Posted by zknm7

Raszageth looks like a buck-toothed goof with pubes glued to her head... she doesn't even look scary, she just looks stupid.

They wanted to go back to the OG days and added some boar-like features to everything.