Patch 10.1 PTR - New Dark Iron Dwarf and Nightborne Customization Options

Originally Posted by Nymrohd

Would probably be an issue with the elaborate ear cosmetics though

Well I'd rather them unequip it than not have the option at all, they do it for other races like Blood Elves loose access to certain earrings when you use the shorter ears

Regular and Lightforged Draenei can only equip hair jewelry on certain styles

Originally Posted by Jester Joe

In 10.0.7

They literally just added new hair colors for orcs and humans.

Shadowlands added a ton extra at the start. And they've been constantly adding new things, like the moon warrior skin option and the dark ranger one.

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Someone should tell the Darkmoon Faire to pack up then, no clowning allowed.

(For clarity, this is a silly argument and it's pretty clear any hair color should be available since, ya know, dye does exist)

Dont worry you can now look like a clown ASLO in the game.

Originally Posted by shise

WoW itself is not even an MMO anymore, it´s a solo game with online options... Way too many changes.

I'm not even sure you're playing the right game, because one of the biggest complaints nowadays is that there's not enough solo content for casuals, and all the relevant content in the game is group-focused.

Originally Posted by Jester Joe

In 10.0.7

They literally just added new hair colors for orcs and humans.

They only added new colours for humans and orcs and most of them are related to the new LGBTQ+ support trend, bright pink colours.
Give us something actual good instead, human males with khadgar sized beards, different dwarf beard options, stuff for us to look forward to.

Doubt anyone really cares about some hair colours being added, especially not ones that most people won't use.

Originally Posted by Gimlix

They only added new colours for humans and orcs and most of them are related to the new LGBTQ+ support trend, bright pink colours.
Give us something actual good instead, human males with khadgar sized beards, different dwarf beard options, stuff for us to look forward to.

Doubt anyone really cares about some hair colours being added, especially not ones that most people won't use.

I thought we already peaked silliness but here we are I guess.

You realize hair dye has nothing to do with anything close to what you're saying right and that's just some weird, out of touch take, right?

Almost every game with hair color customization has bright colors because people like it, and there's no reason to not include it.

Never mind the fact that you're just hand waving it away because you don't care about it, factually you're incorrect.

Originally Posted by Pakheth

For real. Especially the Nightborne.

I still don't understand how they managed to fuck them up this bad. They look nothing like the NPCs.
I have a feeling they are made by two very different artists, and one of them has a hard-on for realism with all those wrinkles and stuff.

I can barely play my male Nightborne. He looks too wrinkly and old, nothing like the Nightborne we meet in Suramar.

Reality has plenty of naturally beautiful women. The game excludes them and tells them they're fantasy

Originally Posted by Jester Joe

I thought we already peaked silliness but here we are I guess.

You realize hair dye has nothing to do with anything close to what you're saying right and that's just some weird, out of touch take, right?

Almost every game with hair color customization has bright colors because people like it, and there's no reason to not include it.

Never mind the fact that you're just hand waving it away because you don't care about it, factually you're incorrect.

Each their own opinion, it's an easy trend to notice, yes asian MMORPG's with over the top sexual customization has it, correct.
I don't care for what reason it gets added, point being, hair colour is the least people care about customizations being added, we want actual new stuff, more options on races etc.

Originally Posted by Gimlix

Each their own opinion, it's an easy trend to notice, yes asian MMORPG's with over the top sexual customization has it, correct.
I don't care for what reason it gets added, point being, hair colour is the least people care about customizations being added, we want actual new stuff, more options on races etc.

Monster hunter has had it for a long time.
Pokemon has it.
From software games have it.

I don't know what kinda weird games you look up, to each their own, but there's plenty of games that have it and I'm not gonna sit here and list every one.

Originally Posted by Jester Joe

Monster hunter has had it for a long time.
Pokemon has it.
From software games have it.

I don't know what kinda weird games you look up, to each their own, but there's plenty of games that have it and I'm not gonna sit here and list every one.

World of Warcraft has also had it, it was just limited to Gnomes, Trolls, and Night Elves. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Originally Posted by Bwgmon

World of Warcraft has also had it, it was just limited to Gnomes, Trolls, and Night Elves. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also fair, I just don't play those races enough to remember that admittedly.

This seems good, but it's not.

Half the hair colours don't even fit the Nightborne, like blonde and red hair. Neither for some of the eye colours.

Do they really believe these additions will fix the problem that some allied races have very few options for customizations? Because to be honest it would be a way better addition to add different hairstyles and faces.

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Originally Posted by Jester Joe

Almost every game with hair color customization has bright colors because people like it, and there's no reason to not include it.

Even though it's a fantasy game, it doesn't mean we have to throw logical completely out of the window. Blonde hair on NIGHTelves devoid of sunlight doesn't make sense. Or sun tanned Dwarves that live underground. Bright blue, green or pink hair doesn't make sense for most races.

It's not strange or a bad thing to be against this. Not all of the aspects of the game have to be realistic or according to the laws of nature but some crazy stuff is pushing it too far the other direciton, this is one of these things if you ask me.

I'd even go so far as to say black humans shouldn't be a thing since there is no geographical location where this skin colour should come from lorewise, but I recognize saying this will spark outrage and label me a racist. So be it though. If Blizzard was so inclined to add them I'd rather have them be a separate kingdom with a separate history. Would be fun for the fans of this option as well.

So yeah, logic is a good thing. Don't bash it just because it's a fantasy game.

The nightborne model needs a complete overhaul. Its bad enough that their racials suck but they are also very unappealing to play with, just a scuffed version of a night elf while I wanted to play as a NPC from Suramar.

Originally Posted by Daronokk

So yeah, logic is a good thing. Don't bash it just because it's a fantasy game.

In a world where dye exists, there is no logic to try to say hair dye shouldn't exist, especially where goblins try to make literally anything to sell.

The whole idea of "but it's fantasy!" has been debunked for a long time.

Originally Posted by Jester Joe

In a world where dye exists, there is no logic to try to say hair dye shouldn't exist, especially where goblins try to make literally anything to sell.

The whole idea of "but it's fantasy!" has been debunked for a long time.

Jesus F christ we got it you want to look like a clown. Enough of it.

Originally Posted by natham

Jesus F christ we got it you want to look like a clown. Enough of it.

Are you really that unable to actually discuss a point that you have to lash out, coz why are you on a forum if you can't even properly talk to people without just snapping because they don't agree with you?

Originally Posted by Jester Joe

In a world where dye exists, there is no logic to try to say hair dye shouldn't exist, especially where goblins try to make literally anything to sell.

The whole idea of "but it's fantasy!" has been debunked for a long time.

What can bebunked? You got a view on certain fantasy races that been around since dawn of time and suddenly we throw all that out the window because of IRL reasons, don't tell me that anyone ever thought of "Hey i wanna see an orc with bright pink hair" come on dude, keep logic at bay, it's called sticking strong to logic.

As i stated before, i don't care if we get 100's hair colours, point being, i want actual changes to races and not just irl related changes. Don't tell me it's just pure "people requested it" almost nobody requested them.

Originally Posted by Gimlix

What can bebunked? You got a view on certain fantasy races that been around since dawn of time and suddenly we throw all that out the window because of IRL reasons, don't tell me that anyone ever thought of "Hey i wanna see an orc with bright pink hair" come on dude, keep logic at bay, it's called sticking strong to logic.

As i stated before, i don't care if we get 100's hair colours, point being, i want actual changes to races and not just irl related changes. Don't tell me it's just pure "people requested it" almost nobody requested them.

I already pointed out that it's very reasonable that hair dye exists in WoW. And another poster pointed out that there's been pink hair in game for a long time.
Ignoring that to claim it isn't debunked isn't making a point, it's just avoiding the actual facts.


Also I dunno where you've been but people have definitely been asking for more hair colors. For years.

Originally Posted by Jester Joe

I already pointed out that it's very reasonable that hair dye exists in WoW. And another poster pointed out that there's been pink hair in game for a long time.
Ignoring that to claim it isn't debunked isn't making a point, it's just avoiding the actual facts.


Also I dunno where you've been but people have definitely been asking for more hair colors. For years.

Not many have asked, but i'm always positive for more options. Anyways, these aren't real customization changes, we still need real improvements to races.

I would love if the Nightborne hair colors, which are already from the Suramar palette, were conscientiously tied to wine colors as well. Give them burgundy, garnet, salmon, pink, amber, copper, and all with a luster reminiscent of the red, white and blush of wine. That would be [chef's kiss].

Hair color options are such a weird thing to be limited and add 1-2 extra weird options at a time.. like just add the full fucking rgb pallette and be done with it.