Play With More Friends with Cross-Faction Guilds

Play With More Friends with Cross-Faction Guilds
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
No longer will you have to wish your Horde heart could find a home with the amazing Alliance guild you just cleared a random raid with. Nor do you have to don a cheery Alliance front after wishing a fond farewell to some fantastic Horde heroes after a successful Heroic.

We're blurring the faction line for guilds and allowing players to create and join same-realm guilds with their friends from the opposite faction when the Embers of Neltharion update arrives on May 2.

Some things to remember with cross-faction guilds:

  • Guild affiliation with the Alliance or Horde will depend on the faction of the Guild Leader, and guild achievements and vendors will still reflect the guild's primary faction.
  • Guild members of the opposite faction will benefit from unlocked shared perks but cannot contribute to specific achievements. As an example, Alliance members of a Horde guild could not contribute progress towards the "Alliance Slayer" guild achievement.
  • Guild repairs and social conveniences, like shared chat, will be available to opposite-faction guild members.
  • Players must be Battle.net friends or part of the same Battle.net community to invite or receive an invitation to an opposite-faction guild on the same realm.

Opposite-faction guildmates can only play communally inside instances; they'll still be considered Unfriendly to each other (or Hostile in War Mode) in the outdoor world.


We look forward to you continuing your adventure through the Dragon Isles when Embers of Neltharion goes live on May 2.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Play With More Friends with Cross-Faction Guilds started by Lumy View original post
Published on 2023-04-18 07:22 PM
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  1. Big Thanks's Avatar
    Good, big thumbs up.

    Now...let me queue Random BG's with the opposite faction too....please.
  1. Soisoisoi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Roanda View Post
    Good, big thumbs up.

    Now...let me queue Random BG's with the opposite faction too....please.
    You... already can. Mercenary Mode. Been around since 2015.
  1. Big Thanks's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Soisoisoi View Post
    You... already can. Mercenary Mode
    I mean with the friends i just made in this cross faction guild.
    We cant queue together.

    I tried because im part of a cross faction community "Guild" thingy
  1. Soisoisoi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Roanda View Post
    I mean with the friends i just made in this cross faction guild.
    We cant queue together.
    Ahh, right. You can do rated so makes sense you could do random too.
  1. BurntToast's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Roanda View Post
    I mean with the friends i just made in this cross faction guild.
    We cant queue together.

    I tried because im part of a cross faction community "Guild" thingy
    Cross faction guilds aren't live yet. If you mean Community - that's basically just chat.

    Actual guilds comes in 10.1.
  1. Big Thanks's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by BurntToast View Post
    Cross faction guilds aren't live yet. If you mean Community - that's basically just chat.

    Actual guilds comes in 10.1.
    Yes a community
    Is torture because i can actually SEE them queue for random BGs...on the quick join tab...

    Once i grouped up with them only to..."sorry bro, cant queue with you"
  1. The Stormbringer's Avatar
    Good change. Probably would've been nice to have a long time ago, but better late than never. Keep it up, Blizz!
  1. Lightelf's Avatar
    Hopefully this means we can queue random dungeons with friends of the opposite faction. Like, I just wanted to play with a friend of the opposite faction in Timewalking and Blizz is all like "THAT'S NOT ALLOWED"
  1. TbouncerT's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Roanda View Post
    Yes a community
    Is torture because i can actually SEE them queue for random BGs...on the quick join tab...

    Once i grouped up with them only to..."sorry bro, cant queue with you"
    Cant cross-faction queue for things, but can do all the other non-queued things. The in-game information tells you that. This is a start in the right direction for people to start playing with each other. I am sure they're setting the groundwork for bigger changes in 11.0. This is why it works first in instanced content than in the open world.
  1. Danuel's Avatar
    good for allys I guess.
  1. exsanguinate's Avatar
    faction identity is completly wrecked in this game. glad we have classic era. retail is good for people who want a quick hookup with friends that are playing different factions, but the rpg element is just dead. retail is a simple esports simulator lobby.
  1. deenman's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by exsanguinate View Post
    faction identity is completly wrecked in this game. glad we have classic era. retail is good for people who want a quick hookup with friends that are playing different factions, but the rpg element is just dead. retail is a simple esports simulator lobby.
    actualy being able to cross faction is a VERY rpg-like thing,not being able to do with before was very anti rpg
  1. Ashana Darkmoon's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by exsanguinate View Post
    faction identity is completly wrecked in this game. glad we have classic era. retail is good for people who want a quick hookup with friends that are playing different factions, but the rpg element is just dead. retail is a simple esports simulator lobby.
    Good!

    Being able to play whatever race/class you want and still group with friends > all other considerations
  1. exsanguinate's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    actualy being able to cross faction is a VERY rpg-like thing,not being able to do with before was very anti rpg
    It is not.
  1. perkocet's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by exsanguinate View Post
    It is not.
    Impeccable debate skills
  1. Doombringer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by exsanguinate View Post
    It is not.
    Guilds are private companies of like-minded adventurers and heroes. You CAN have an Alliance-only guild who basically operates as an arm of the government, sure. You can have a guild full of dwarf-supremacists too and they only let dwarves in. Etc.

    But you can also have a band of mercenaries who only have loyalty to each other and their faction ties are slim to none.

    It's more RP-friendly to allow cross-faction than to not. Options, options are good.
  1. lurkanomics's Avatar
    "As an example, Alliance members of a Horde guild could not contribute progress towards the "Alliance Slayer" guild achievement."

    I don't know why but picturing that scenario in my head gave me a good laugh:

    Night elf rogue: hey guys I really don't like gnomes, can I slay them in the name of the horde?
    Guild leader: you'll get no credit for it but sure, slay all you want!
  1. cateran100's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Doombringer View Post
    Guilds are private companies of like-minded adventurers and heroes. You CAN have an Alliance-only guild who basically operates as an arm of the government, sure. You can have a guild full of dwarf-supremacists too and they only let dwarves in. Etc.

    But you can also have a band of mercenaries who only have loyalty to each other and their faction ties are slim to none.

    It's more RP-friendly to allow cross-faction than to not. Options, options are good.

    This....+1 We are basically a mixture of mercenaries and adventurers (you getting paid for your tasks) No logical reason why do not form a band with the "opposite" faction especially as druids doing it since vanilla.....
  1. Soulsinger's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lurkanomics View Post
    "As an example, Alliance members of a Horde guild could not contribute progress towards the "Alliance Slayer" guild achievement."

    I don't know why but picturing that scenario in my head gave me a good laugh:

    Night elf rogue: hey guys I really don't like gnomes, can I slay them in the name of the horde?
    Guild leader: you'll get no credit for it but sure, slay all you want!
    "Also Bob, I'm a little confused why you joined an all-gnome guild."
    "Don't judge me!"
  1. shane brannigan's Avatar
    This was mechanically necessary with how dead the alliance is.
    But it does really kill the core fantasy the franchise was based on, can we get a franchise rename to like I don't know "world of Azeroth" since the War part of warcraft is kind officially dead now.
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