Save Up to 40% on Dragonflight Through May 15

Originally Posted by unknowndeath

Sorry but passing probably I have spent enough money on this game to know that you can't really catch others if you are behind in terms of progress and know the fact that blizzard isn't an amazing company anymore not after Activision who knows how many times it has changed the authority.

The company funnily enough is technically better then it was before.
Also yeah you can easily catch up, there is no borrowed power like the artifacts, azerite necklace, or soulbinda. You can log in, level up, go to the new zone, and be caught up.

Originally Posted by FelPlague

The company funnily enough is technically better then it was before.
Also yeah you can easily catch up, there is no borrowed power like the artifacts, azerite necklace, or soulbinda. You can log in, level up, go to the new zone, and be caught up.

Unless you plan on doing M+ I guess in which case gg new player without rating have fun waiting 2 hours in dungeon finder until someone takes pity on you - or, alternatively, have fun making your own groups that deplete a key five minutes in because someone body-pulled 2 packs.

Exaggeration, of course, but it's not QUITE as easy as "just go to the new zone and you're caught up" unless you don't plan on doing anything but the most basic content. If that's your jam though, by all means - you are correct, you're basically caught up in a day once you're max level.

Originally Posted by Biomega

Unless you plan on doing M+ I guess in which case gg new player without rating have fun waiting 2 hours in dungeon finder until someone takes pity on you - or, alternatively, have fun making your own groups that deplete a key five minutes in because someone body-pulled 2 packs.

Exaggeration, of course, but it's not QUITE as easy as "just go to the new zone and you're caught up" unless you don't plan on doing anything but the most basic content. If that's your jam though, by all means - you are correct, you're basically caught up in a day once you're max level.

So it is as easy to just go to the new zone and you're caught up. 1 day you said. That's awesome. Weird way to agree with the guy you're trying to fight.

Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit

So it is as easy to just go to the new zone and you're caught up. 1 day you said. That's awesome. Weird way to agree with the guy you're trying to fight.

Not nearly as weird as ignoring the main point in what I said, I guess, but who am I to judge.

Originally Posted by Biomega

Unless you plan on doing M+ I guess in which case gg new player without rating have fun waiting 2 hours in dungeon finder until someone takes pity on you - or, alternatively, have fun making your own groups that deplete a key five minutes in because someone body-pulled 2 packs.

Exaggeration, of course, but it's not QUITE as easy as "just go to the new zone and you're caught up" unless you don't plan on doing anything but the most basic content. If that's your jam though, by all means - you are correct, you're basically caught up in a day once you're max level.

As someone who got to 2400 with pugging, nah mate, work your way up, it does not take that long, especially if you have previous seasons under your belt. can link acheive as proof if needed, if you have not done high keys before though, of course random high keys shouldnt invite you, you need to do that work up atleast once, then you can use it for support.


and yeah, you are caught up, if you are doing the new M+ grind, that is the current content, what you are describing is like saying "To do the new content, you first need to go do normal of the new raid, then heroic, then you can start pugging for mythic, the new content."

Originally Posted by FelPlague

and yeah, you are caught up, if you are doing the new M+ grind

That wasn't the original statement, though. That was "You can log in, level up, go to the new zone, and be caught up." - and you clearly know that's NOT applicable here, and it's NOT how it works in M+.

Originally Posted by Jester Joe

It's disingenuous to count free trials.

Getting to play the then 3-month old expansion for half a month for free doesn't count as a method for trying to sell the expansion? And then you just poo-poo the 20% discount because it's ... what, not enough of a discount for you to count it as a 'real' discount?

So, basically, if we don't count anything you don't want to count then I guess Dragonflight has never been offered for sale or free for a time. That's pretty damned selective and only in service of deflecting from the reality that Dragonflight sales have clearly struggled. It's ok, you can still like the game even if it sells poorly. You don't need to debase yourself this way trying to prove "all is well, remain calm!" there Niedermayer.

Originally Posted by Biomega

That wasn't the original statement, though. That was "You can log in, level up, go to the new zone, and be caught up." - and you clearly know that's NOT applicable here, and it's NOT how it works in M+.

You... You can though... Go to the new zone. And be caught up to do the new content...

Bro what are you on about?

Originally Posted by threads

nah when hardcore servers?

Saw this on Icey Veins.

A Hardcore server type has appeared in the game's database table in Patch 10.0.7, which means we could get official support for Hardcore Classic realms soon.

How Would Hardcore Realms Work in WoW?

Similar to Diablo, when your character dies, it will get deleted. Classic players currently replicate this behavior by using an addon, but some datamined strings hint at possible official support for Hardcore Classic realms. Specifically, the cfg_categories database table had a Hardcore string added in Patch 10.0.7 Build 48295.

Originally Posted by FelPlague

You... You can though... Go to the new zone. And be caught up to do the new content...

Bro what are you on about?

Reading comprehension is what I'm on about.

I said you're caught up by doing that IF all you want to do is random world content. If you want to do M+ then "go to the new zone" does NOT catch you up. That doesn't mean it's impossible to catch up in M+, but it won't just be "level up, go to new zone".

Originally Posted by Laqweeta

this is REEKING of desperation.

people like you trying to paint it as "wow is dying" again?
yeah, that very much reeks of desperate attempt to seek validation...

first of all, if promotions/discounts are sign of wow dying then it died some time in TBC... hell wrath, which was the most popular expansion by playercount (as far as we know) had multiple promotions and sales...

and second, you do realise that discount on expansion works best if people are NOT LEAVING? like if people who try it are more likely to stay, thats when you want them to get in, not when people are leaving en masse, that wont help at all, the new people would leave too...

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Originally Posted by exochaft

Whether it's a good move or not is highly dependent upon the game. There's quite a few games (or gaming platforms) that will almost never go on sale, or their sales are a very minor discount. The reason behind this is that the games and/or IPs are strong enough that you don't need to put them on sale.

sure, with game that DONT HAVE SUB... works a bit differently since the price of game is their only income...

one of the discounts during wrath was wrath + battlechest for price that was lower than normal price of just wrath itself (my gf at the time started then )
does that mean wow ip was not strong enough during the wows peak? or does that mean they wanted to capitalise on people actualy enjoying the game and staying?
which tbh very much might be the case now too, as majority of negativity about DF (especialy on this forum) seems to be coming from people who openly admit they didnt even play it...

Nah, I don't see any improvements vs 10.0, so I'll wait till 10.2. May be it will be better.

With how well the game is doing compared to previous expansions with player retention it makes perfect sense to try to get more players in or back to the game. Smart business move.

Whelp, not sure how many months straight i've been subbed now, but it's been the longest in years.
Also bought the epic upgrade, never did something like that before.
But at €24 i figured that's 13 for playtime and 11 for a level boost plus goodies, so yeah pretty happy with that. Silly as it sounds i really love the hearthstone.

Natural move. This happens to most games.

And I convinced all my friends to return to WoW past week and buy the DF expansion... guess who is getting blamed lol

Originally Posted by FelPlague

The company funnily enough is technically better then it was before.
Also yeah you can easily catch up, there is no borrowed power like the artifacts, azerite necklace, or soulbinda. You can log in, level up, go to the new zone, and be caught up.

Dude have you played old diablo games? I mean when it wasn't Activision. I met blizzard with diablo 2 and it was the most epic adventure I have tagged alone. Then started playing wow and in which I have seen spells having ranks , having a stat called hit, living bomb hitting spreading limitlessly, fear was a thing to be feared, deep shatter making the mages force to be fear etc etc. The point is wow used to be much more fun than nowadays and it was the days with blizzard. Also if old blizzard did drachytr they would probably use a proto drake instead of a small dragonkin even the onyxias lair guardian drakes are better than dragonkin they made for us. I am sure some would agree to that.

Originally Posted by threads

nah when hardcore servers?

By the time the harcore server will be online, the hype will be gone so the 10 people who want a server

Originally Posted by Lolites

people like you trying to paint it as "wow is dying" again?
yeah, that very much reeks of desperate attempt to seek validation...

first of all, if promotions/discounts are sign of wow dying then it died some time in TBC... hell wrath, which was the most popular expansion by playercount (as far as we know) had multiple promotions and sales...

and second, you do realise that discount on expansion works best if people are NOT LEAVING? like if people who try it are more likely to stay, thats when you want them to get in, not when people are leaving en masse, that wont help at all, the new people would leave too...

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sure, with game that DONT HAVE SUB... works a bit differently since the price of game is their only income...

one of the discounts during wrath was wrath + battlechest for price that was lower than normal price of just wrath itself (my gf at the time started then )
does that mean wow ip was not strong enough during the wows peak? or does that mean they wanted to capitalise on people actualy enjoying the game and staying?
which tbh very much might be the case now too, as majority of negativity about DF (especialy on this forum) seems to be coming from people who openly admit they didnt even play it...

Yall are trying so hard lmfao meanwhile DF is dead and everyone is on HC Classic.

Originally Posted by Laqweeta

Yall are trying so hard lmfao meanwhile DF is dead and everyone is on HC Classic.

That's what happens when you confuse reality with twitch. HC Classic is flavour of the month for streamers, meanwhile it's literally 1 full server on EU (+1 in US I guess). Meanwhile DF, when right now on EU I count 12 Full servers on EU + a lot high/medium, is dead. But numbers doesn't matter in your imaginary world, right?