WoW Classic - Recent Actions Against Exploitative Accounts

Judging by how many bots i have seen in wotlk classic the botters consider these account bans a cheap "cost of doing business".
If blizzard is too slow with the bans the botters get enough profit before their account get taken out.

Wotlk classic is so filled to the brim with bots i can not say that these bans are doing anything effectively to stop the bot swarms.

Originally Posted by Aleksej89

Judging by how many bots i have seen in wotlk classic the botters consider these account bans a cheap "cost of doing business".
If blizzard is too slow with the bans the botters get enough profit before their account get taken out.

Wotlk classic is so filled to the brim with bots i can not say that these bans are doing anything effectively to stop the bot swarms.

Remove Master Loot -> GDKP runs die -> there is nothing else to spend gold on in Classic -> problem solved

Master loot is the core of the cesspit, whether anyone wants to admit it or not.

Lol.

The only reason they are doing this is because they are selling gold now and because they want to scare people from trying to buy gold from 3rd parties. Fucking pathetic.

Originally Posted by Garymorilix

Remove Master Loot -> GDKP runs die -> there is nothing else to spend gold on in Classic -> problem solved

Master loot is the core of the cesspit, whether anyone wants to admit it or not.

Removing loot trading has massive ramifications for EVERYONE. Whereas GDKP runs existing only negatively affects a vanishingly small amount of players. This "solution" would be worse than the problem.

Originally Posted by Garymorilix

Remove Master Loot -> GDKP runs die -> there is nothing else to spend gold on in Classic -> problem solved

Master loot is the core of the cesspit, whether anyone wants to admit it or not.

Careful man you might burn yourself on that hot of a take.

We all see how Master Loot removal worked out for Retail now didn't we? TOTALLY killed buying runs.

i wonder if blizz leadership will realize it'll take more than releasing potentially real, potentially fake ban numbers? people trust action more than words so people will only think blizz is doing something to combat bots when they start seeing bots less.

Blizzard banning more bots then most MMORPG has in total active players. Pretty easy to assume how popular WoW still is today.

Originally Posted by Khaza-R

Lol.

The only reason they are doing this is because they are selling gold now and because they want to scare people from trying to buy gold from 3rd parties. Fucking pathetic.

Spitting TRUTH, thank you

Originally Posted by Gimlix

Blizzard banning more bots then most MMORPG has in total active players. Pretty easy to assume how popular WoW still is today.

Source? or you just throwing random non confirmed bullshit around?

Originally Posted by Neotart

Source? or you just throwing random non confirmed bullshit around?

What was that Amazon Games MMO that had like 3 people playing?

Originally Posted by Neotart

Source? or you just throwing random non confirmed bullshit around?

It is legit hard to know how well a lot of games are doing.

New World we can accurately see thanks to steamcharts and that game requiring a steam account (for the record, new world is averaging 15k lol). For others we can make educated guesses(ff14 and ESO are probably both north of 1 million, they're certainly HEALTHY at any rate), last numbers we had on my old fave LOTRO was 108k/mo in 2020 (DDO was less than half that, and that's more than both EQ's combined) but Lotro has grown since then according to EG7's investment reports), but 167,000 banned accounts is a huge freaking number no matter how you look at it.

I would not dispute the notion that 167k accounts being banned is more than a lot of MMOs typically see in a month.

Originally Posted by Gimlix

Blizzard banning more bots then most MMORPG has in total active players. Pretty easy to assume how popular WoW still is today.

than*!! How freaking hard can it be?! Like seriously... come on! Know the difference on then and than ffs



Infracted.

Originally Posted by Xofa

than*!! How freaking hard can it be?! Like seriously... come on! Know the difference on then and than ffs

First of all, calm down son how can someone get that annoyed over one word, second of all shouldn't it be the difference BETWEEN then and than not the difference ON then and than? then again I could be wrong and you could get even more upset, ignore me.

167k x15$=2.5m$ and that's not including the cost of developing the bots and the computers to run them. There wouldn't be several million dollars worth of bots to ban if they didn't make their money back between the banwaves, they should be happening twice a week instead of twice a year.

Originally Posted by Xofa

than*!! How freaking hard can it be?! Like seriously... come on! Know the difference on then and than ffs

Remember, a lot of the internet is made up of users where English isn't a first language. There's 0 reason to freak out about small stuff like this.

Originally Posted by Biomega

Removing loot trading has massive ramifications for EVERYONE. Whereas GDKP runs existing only negatively affects a vanishingly small amount of players. This "solution" would be worse than the problem.

Yes it does.

It saves everyone from such a gargabe loot system.

And no, not a 'vanishingly small amount'. It literally causes hyperinflation by itself which affects literally everyone.

Originally Posted by SinR

Careful man you might burn yourself on that hot of a take.

We all see how Master Loot removal worked out for Retail now didn't we? TOTALLY killed buying runs.

In retail people buy runs because they want the achievement from a harder difficulty that they wouldn't be able to do themselves.
It is impossible to guarantee loot to anyone.
Also, gold is not nearly worth that much: you can buy curve for farming herbs for 3 days and then you are done for the tier. That's most people's goal given the advertisements in game always mention 'curve' due to its high demand.

Classic doesn't have such novelty systems in it, people are straight up buying loot.
If there is no loot you can directly buy then the whole system collapses.

It's not a hot take, by the way.
Blizzard removed Master Loot because it was an abusable dogshit system. The percieved benefit of a family guild using it as intended does not outweight the fact that it enabled the most degen god-complex people to use it for their own gain without any repercussions.

Numbers like that, as big as they seem, are (most likely) still a drop in the bucket. These are no longer the poorly scripted hunters with default pet names farming mobs in the open world, it's dozens of accounts being run on virtual machines flyhacking instances for raw gold and farming sholazar nodes 24/7. They make back the initial investment faster than Blizzard is able (willing?) to ban them.

Originally Posted by Garymorilix

It literally causes hyperinflation by itself which affects literally everyone.

How do GDKP runs cause hyperinflation, exactly? You know buying WoW tokens doesn't create gold, right?

so they banned like 90 % of classic "players"

this shows how few people actually play this bot infested game

Considering account sharing is forbidden i do not know how tough can it be to auto ban people who fly around sholazar/netherstorm for 24 to 48 hours non-stop herbing/mining.

Frankly i do not mind if one real player (who somehow mines/herbs for 48 hours straight multiple times a week) gets caught in automated bans if the remaining 99,99% of the bans are bots.
Such a player could use a break anyway xD

But blizz does not see these bots as a sufficient problem to their profit margins.