The War Within Launches August 26 - Early Access on August 22

Wonder if the first Mythic season is going to follow Dragonflight's half new half rehashed lineup

Originally Posted by Ielenia

Early access players will have three days of early access. You're not getting to max level in that short amount of time and gear up it enough to start dedicating time for alts.

On top of that, features such as rare mobs, mythic dungeons and world quests will not be available during early access. You're not "winning" anything by getting a three day head start on leveling.

FFS, "pay to win" has become such a buzzword it's starting to lose its meaning.

3 days is a lot of time for sure, committed people will be max level within half a day of that at most if not quite a lot quicker. Blizzard said there would be a lot of restrictions on how much content can be completed at max level at that point but for sure there will be quite an advantage.

Originally Posted by Syegfryed

I would prefer, if they didn't start building from a meme.

I would prefer they ignore the dumbass community and do what they want and think is best. Yall make memes out of the dumbest things, look no further than that new monster hunter wilds girl for proof. Her origin story is pretty great imo too. A trapped void entity (old god?) that we oopsie set free in our attempt to stop the legion, now that is proving to bite us in the ass some years later.

Originally Posted by Ereb

I would prefer they ignore the dumbass community and do what they want and think is best.

Too bad what they think is best is more shit and dumbass than what the community says more than often.

Lets pretend fucking shadowlands was not they thinking that was the best.

A trapped void entity (old god?)

Sure, retcon that too, why not at this point.

Originally Posted by Syegfryed

Too bad what they think is best is more shit and dumbass than what the community says more than often.

Lets pretend fucking shadowlands was not they thinking that was the best.

Sure, retcon that too, why not at this point.

what retcon? she was literally a void entity introduced in Legion; could be an old god, could be anything really. The only thing we know is she was imprisoned in the dagger at some point during the Black Empire. the question I have is who imprisoned her, and why?

Originally Posted by Syegfryed

Too bad what they think is best is more shit and dumbass than what the community says more than often.

This website on the DAILY proves you wrong lmao. And blizz has been retconning their story literally since TBC so not sure why that seems to bother you now for some reason. If she proved to be the missing 5th old god that would be cool as hell obviously. Retconning a retcon XD

Originally Posted by MrLachyG

what retcon?

The retcon that say the old gods that were in azeroth and there was no other than the ones we faces so far?

the question I have is who imprisoned her, and why?

Probably because she was another annoying damn elf, like we rly need another, could have taken any form.

Retcons just mean the current shit won't pass the smell test without saying "but what we meant was..."

Originally Posted by AtomR

That is 100% what I assumed when I heard they planned a trilogy. I'm pretty certain wow will enter maintenance mode after this trilogy. Wow is 20 years old now, everything about it is old, from graphics to tech. It's impossible for me too think that the plan for the next 20 years is to keep it going as is without a complete new product whatever it looks like.

1. We kill Azeroth and jump on Valens ship. He gathers 1 set of each mamal(with every biological combination of body types).
2. We colonize another planet.
3. 10.000 year later - enter the world of World of STARCRAFT.

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Originally Posted by Zardas

So arguably the most popular mmorpg would enter maintenance mode when mmorpgs older and way less popular still receive new expansions ?

It really depends on 1 thing:

Does it attract more people if they launch WoW2? Probably not.

Would it be nicer overall? Probably not - boomers will find it lacking idenity and charme.

They must have a different product ready thou. You can call it Plunderstorm or some WoW MOBA game. OR .... World of STARCRAFT!

Originally Posted by Syegfryed

The retcon that say the old gods that were in azeroth and there was no other than the ones we faces so far?



Probably because she was another annoying damn elf, like we rly need another, could have taken any form.

And who told us that? The titans themselves. True, when they arrived there were 4… but the Black Empire was around for a long, long time. We don’t know what happened during that time. The Old Gods weren’t friends, they were fighting each other until the Titans arrived. So who knows if there were more Old Gods that got consumed thousands of years before the Titans arrived? There’d be no record of them because the others would have erased their existence over that time period

Originally Posted by Ielenia

Early access players will have three days of early access. You're not getting to max level in that short amount of time and gear up it enough to start dedicating time for alts.

On top of that, features such as rare mobs, mythic dungeons and world quests will not be available during early access. You're not "winning" anything by getting a three day head start on leveling.

FFS, "pay to win" has become such a buzzword it's starting to lose its meaning.

You're definitely getting to max level in that short amount of time. Most people in my guild reach level cap in little over a day. But there is also the experience of a new expansion that will be lost. The excitement of waiting for servers to open, for the servers to eventually crash (ok that's not good), the looking at the zones and commenting on the them in guild or general chat. By the time I get there it will not be anything new for half the server. Half the guild will be doing something that is way ahead of you. It's not pay to win in the real sense of the word, and I admit I may have exaggerated. But it's almost worse because it's not about killing anything or getting that gear. It is that the most exciting thing there is wow these days is expansion launch and that is now moved up a couple of days for the idiots that are feeding this nonsense habit that companies now have of creating "special editions" for ridiculous ammouts to pay for a game.

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Originally Posted by Aggressive

What you said here made me laugh. You have to be joking right ?? Maintenance Mode for wow ?? You a funny man. Best laugh I have had all day.

they're not going to wait for wow to fail to move on. They will plan ahead.

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Originally Posted by Amerissis

Normies? Either way, most people who play don't care about being first. Most people won't even play from day one, nor level asap. People who do feel the need to get to 80 and get max gear asap, are people who will spend money on the epic edition anyway. Those 'normies' also don't care that you are leveling your 15th alt while they are still happily reading quest texts and leveling half a level per evening, while also getting some mats and maybe one profession point. The first max level would be 5 hours after launch anyway, so 99,9% of players will be behind even without an early access.

I have yet to see anyone in that mythic group of 'people who want to level asap but didn't buy epic' post anywhere. They'll exist, I'm sure, but very, very few.

As stated above, it's about the new expansion experience, not about winning any race.

Originally Posted by Ielenia

Early access players will have three days of early access. You're not getting to max level in that short amount of time and gear up it enough to start dedicating time for alts.

On top of that, features such as rare mobs, mythic dungeons and world quests will not be available during early access. You're not "winning" anything by getting a three day head start on leveling.

FFS, "pay to win" has become such a buzzword it's starting to lose its meaning.

Just as an example, the race to max level will literally be won by someone who paid you fucking doorknob.

Originally Posted by thilicen

Just as an example, the race to max level will literally be won by someone who paid you fucking doorknob.

There is no race to max level lol. Early access is completely meaningless besides an excuse to charge extra for the expensive edition. Season doesn't even begin until sept 10

Originally Posted by thilicen

Just as an example, the race to max level will literally be won by someone who paid you fucking doorknob.

I'm also against early access for money, but what is this argument? This race doesn't really exist anymore.
Also pretty much every race is won by someone who payed, since you can spend WoW gold to gain battle net credit. Echo spending 200 Million or more gold is also pretty much pay to win, even if they are incredibly good players. Add to that the cost of Weakaura devs, coordination, etc...

You don't get to insult people here and then support you argument with the most stupid reasons I've seen in regard to this discussion. Race to max level, really. What a joke.

Guys look at it like this, the fools who paid for early access are going to suffer the OBVIOUS server issues that we all know are coming at launch, so that when the rest of us join things will be stable and nice.

Originally Posted by thilicen

Just as an example, the race to max level will literally be won by someone who paid you fucking doorknob.

One: there is no "race to max level".

Second: congratz, you got a meaningless achievement that gives you no real reward aside from increasing your achievement points by 10. The exact same achievement that everyone gets when they reach max level, regardless if they do it on expansion launch, or in the last few days before the next expansion's pre-patch.

You just got it three days earlier than them. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo.

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Originally Posted by AtomR

You're definitely getting to max level in that short amount of time. Most people in my guild reach level cap in little over a day. But there is also the experience of a new expansion that will be lost. The excitement of waiting for servers to open, for the servers to eventually crash (ok that's not good),

That's a good reason for early access: less of a heavy load in the starting zones meaning less lag for the players at the start of the game.

the looking at the zones and commenting on the them in guild or general chat. By the time I get there it will not be anything new for half the server.

A lot of stuff will still be new for everyone. I mean, when I watch a new movie or a show's new episode I like, I'm still excitedly talking about it with my friends, both online and around me. Also, I'm willing to bed that less than half of the game's playerbase bought the epic edition.

But it's almost worse because it's not about killing anything or getting that gear. It is that the most exciting thing there is wow these days is expansion launch and that is now moved up a couple of days for the idiots that are feeding this nonsense habit that companies now have of creating "special editions" for ridiculous ammouts to pay for a game.

Your first experience in a zone is not devalued by someone getting there before you do, especially since there'll still be a lot of players around you while you level up. I mean, what's the difference if someone in your guild clears a zone five hours or two days before you do?

Originally Posted by SinR

Wonder if the first Mythic season is going to follow Dragonflight's half new half rehashed lineup

I certainly hope so, it really kept each season fresh

Originally Posted by Beasty

3 days is a lot of time for sure, committed people will be max level within half a day of that at most if not quite a lot quicker. Blizzard said there would be a lot of restrictions on how much content can be completed at max level at that point but for sure there will be quite an advantage.

They said nothing with a lockout would be available, so the best you'll be able to do is get to max level and do normal, maybe heroic dungeons. No professions, no rares, no world events, no real content except dungeons, not even WQs. By the end of the first day of the normal launch, that advantage will be nothing.

Originally Posted by hamalau88

What happened to blizz's cinematics? Even though their expansions were shit the cinematics were always bangers, even the Shadowlands one was hype. This and the Dragonflight one were so utter rubbish and boring.

You are aware this cinematic was a collection of remastered parts of every expansion cinematic ever made right?

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Originally Posted by AtomR

What a dick move from blizzard to have the real expansion launch be tied to you having the money to pay for a deluxe edition. By the time the normies get to play we'll be levelling up with the alts. Thank you for ruining the new expansion experience. This is the definition of pay to win.

No it isn't. YOu literally can only level to 80. No endgame content will be available and the season doesn't begin until one week after actual launch. There is no advantage and everyone will be at the same place when the actual season starts.

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Originally Posted by wytek

This was annouched during an xbox event, every other game was listed as being available on xbox and xbox game pass, do people think this is a sign of WoW coming to xbox...

It is not. They aren't porting a 20 year old game to a console.

Originally Posted by Scyth

Yeah I was really hoping we'd get an early September release so I could play GW2 for longer. Time to play both at the same time I guess

time to dig out muh 2nd monitor

Nice to hear Claudia Christian this trailer. Also noting the third race highlighted...We got Earthen, Arathi, and something else. Very tribal.