New Cinematic: The Harbinger is here

Originally Posted by vizzle

This "Khadgar's VA is getting old" thing is silly. VAs get replaced all the time and in most cases, 90% of people don't realize it unless someone tells them.

because it worked so well for Kael'thas

Originally Posted by FelPlague

73 for a VA who has done it their whole life is rough, again you can hear the strain In his voice in the recent cinematics, and they have been hinting at him leaving the story since shadowlands.

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We are days away so I won't say spoilers but it's unlikely he dies.

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Yes it's so fucking good, I want line based abilities like this for a few classes. Just a big ol' beam.

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... We have literally seen xalatath grow in power.
Did you play legion, bfa? Both were we literally took part in her gaining power?

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Bro, your watching a cinematic which takes place during the expansion launch. Wait till we see WHY they may be alone, maybe ya know, the neurbian attack taking place we already know about, with the neurbian fighting us while khadgar goes to try and stop xalatath?

Sure, but we didn't really see her as being weak, she escapes the dagger (Unclear if she inherited any of that power we put into the dagger, since it was spent to purge the corruption from Sargeras' sword, she escaped the dagger, got into a body (She now had the utility of being able to move outside of a dagger, which is a power up) and then in Dragonflight we saw her actually gain her power in the form of the Dark Heart, which is arguably the biggest gain in power she had.

I'm not sure what she retained from Legion, her gaining a body in BFA and the Dark Heart at the most recognizable bits. None of these things, besides the Dark Heart really feels like something that makes her justifiably mighty. I just don't feel like it's earned, despite the time put into her story.

Originally Posted by SinR

because it worked so well for Kael'thas

Entirely different reason.

Originally Posted by Doffen

He has had that for a while. And that is why Khadgar's voice been so good.

No, I mean breaks in his voice, strain. This is new, and why his voice is actually edited audibly now.

"The cOuncil"
"AllURIAh"

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Originally Posted by The-Shan

Sure, but we didn't really see her as being weak, she escapes the dagger (Unclear if she inherited any of that power we put into the dagger, since it was spent to purge the corruption from Sargeras' sword, she escaped the dagger, got into a body (She now had the utility of being able to move outside of a dagger, which is a power up) and then in Dragonflight we saw her actually gain her power in the form of the Dark Heart, which is arguably the biggest gain in power she had.

I'm not sure what she retained from Legion, her gaining a body in BFA and the Dark Heart at the most recognizable bits. None of these things, besides the Dark Heart really feels like something that makes her justifiably mighty. I just don't feel like it's earned, despite the time put into her story.

Reminder, we did not put power INTO the sword, we took power OUT
idk if you played during the prepatch and when it actually hapened, but your weapon did not become useless, it was not suddenly weak, the issue was we OVERLOADED IT and it made its abilities innert. it had a special animation even of the weapons power CONSTANTLY growing almost in a glitchy corrupted manner.
We did not drain their power, we OVERPOWERED them.


1:24 explains it. We literally overpower the weapons extremly so to the point they fizzle out at the prepatch, a light at a nuclear reactor, extremly powerful till overloaded.
Xalatath is one of the few weapons that very well could have kept that power inside, as she obviously did not "fizzle out"

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Originally Posted by Just Passing through

Yes, he is just out to get you on a technicality ^^

As for SPOILERS ^^ - does anyone doubt already who is the endboss of the last raid? Only question is: In this x-pac or the last of the trilogy

We know she will be in midnight, so she won't be a boss this expansion, but she may be a boss next expansion.

Originally Posted by SinR

because it worked so well for Kael'thas

I know it's hard to imagine when you're addicted, but there are examples other than WoW in the world.

Originally Posted by FelPlague

No, I mean breaks in his voice, strain. This is new, and why his voice is actually edited audibly now.

"The cOuncil"
"AllURIAh"

No, he had that even in the Harbinger 8 years ago. That "strain" is not like that, it is a thing he does for Khadgar. He does like a voice actor do, changes voice to fit a character. And Khadgar is also getting older. He is soon 60 years old.

It is just superb voice acting.

Originally Posted by Doffen

No, he had that even in the Harbinger 8 years ago. That "strain" is not like that, it is a thing he does for Khadgar. He does like a voice actor do, changes voice to fit a character. And Khadgar is also getting older. He is soon 60 years old.

It is just superb voice acting.

This. There is no editing of his voice going on.

Originally Posted by FelPlague

Yes it's so fucking good, I want line based abilities like this for a few classes. Just a big ol' beam.

I saw someone joking that Khadgar used Comet Azur and still failed to kill Xal.

And I was like, GREAT! Thanks, now I want a big ol' beam even mORE!!

Originally Posted by FelPlague

No, I mean breaks in his voice, strain. This is new, and why his voice is actually edited audibly now.

"The cOuncil"
"AllURIAh"

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Reminder, we did not put power INTO the sword, we took power OUT
idk if you played during the prepatch and when it actually hapened, but your weapon did not become useless, it was not suddenly weak, the issue was we OVERLOADED IT and it made its abilities innert. it had a special animation even of the weapons power CONSTANTLY growing almost in a glitchy corrupted manner.
We did not drain their power, we OVERPOWERED them.


1:24 explains it. We literally overpower the weapons extremly so to the point they fizzle out at the prepatch, a light at a nuclear reactor, extremly powerful till overloaded.
Xalatath is one of the few weapons that very well could have kept that power inside, as she obviously did not "fizzle out"

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We know she will be in midnight, so she won't be a boss this expansion, but she may be a boss next expansion.

I did play it, You're right, I misremembered it and didn't look back at YouTube, its been a while. I remember that it had that overcharged thing on it/in the UI. That does change things a bit, thanks!

Originally Posted by Just Passing through

Yes, he is just out to get you on a technicality ^^

He is the one playing with semantics and technicalities lol. Call it what you want, but the expansion releases on the 22nd. Thats the day I am allowed to finally play TWW on live servers. Just like Dawntrail released on June 28th for me.

Originally Posted by Daronokk

Khadgar suddenly being a wimp because it suits the narrative to make the villain appear strong for no reason, not cool Blizzard! Don't make Xal'atath another Jailer.

this x 100000000

blizzard writing for past few exps (esp SL, DF and now what we see from spoilers) is beyond bad. Bad even for blizzard standards.

Originally Posted by Daronokk

Khadgar suddenly being a wimp because it suits the narrative to make the villain appear strong for no reason, not cool Blizzard! Don't make Xal'atath another Jailer.

Not really seeing Khadgar appear weaker out of nowhere. He used what we can assume is an incredibly powerful spell, and while he’s channeling it he starts to appear like he’s being losing strength.
We then see Xal walking out of the smoke holding the Aspect. Seems less likely that writers suddenly made him a wimp and more that Xal just used a strong item to protect herself and weaken him during their encounter.

Originally Posted by Eapoe

Not really seeing Khadgar appear weaker out of nowhere. He used what we can assume is an incredibly powerful spell, and while he’s channeling it he starts to appear like he’s being losing strength.
We then see Xal walking out of the smoke holding the Aspect. Seems less likely that writers suddenly made him a wimp and more that Xal just used a strong item to protect herself and weaken him during their encounter.

The Dark Heart is an artifact seemingly of the void. And it was able to suck the essence out of galakrond.
I would not be surprised if she didnt literally just absorb the spell into the thing.
It is basically a super magic mirror.

Originally Posted by Palapop

people praise cliffhangers now? now I see why current devs (actually for past 6-7 years) manage to get away with it.

gosh, its so much of this its unreal, whole story is now a clifanger gallore without any real "meat" or meaning cause you never really know what's what and even why XD

Originally Posted by Ereb

He is the one playing with semantics and technicalities lol. Call it what you want, but the expansion releases on the 22nd. Thats the day I am allowed to finally play TWW on live servers. Just like Dawntrail released on June 28th for me.

Yeah...it is like this on forums. I also got the CE - so I guess I can start earlier...the question is more "do I want to play on release / patch day?"

But curiosity will get the better of me.

Originally Posted by Just Passing through

Yeah...it is like this on forums. I also got the CE - so I guess I can start earlier...the question is more "do I want to play on release / patch day?"

But curiosity will get the better of me.

Oh you just know that there will be sooo many issues in those first few days lol