Diablo IV: Lord of Hatred Expansion - WoW Decor Rewards

Originally Posted by Altmer

Diablo IV, what a terrible game with the name of one of the best I have ever played: Diablo 2 LOD. I never expected to see my favorite game sink into a new level of bad. And be twisted into a horrible game that i would never touch. Just by watching Diablo IV cinematics, makes want to puke.

2 years later and we're still getting "D4 Bad" posts, lol.

Originally Posted by Just Passing through

Is it because of the gameplay, the concept of seasons, the story or the gore?

I mainly didn't buy it so far, becaue I feel I don't have enough time to play it - but would consider it if there was an overarching story and quests that one can play through once. Not interested in a "rush to max level and then just farm the same endgame over and over"

Or in what way would you say it twisted D2? I am in the same boat as you. I really, really loved D2 and the x-pc.

Diablo 2 LOD story was an amazing story stitched together with an amazing gameplay, characters (the classes) and with a badass ending (The barbarian lands) and enemies worth fighting. A game that was original in design, music and cinematics that actually inspired you to play.

But what the fuck is even Diablo IV?. A wicked game that regurgitate characters from Diablo 1 and 2 (Same mistake done by Diablo 3), with a story that lacks in being original and a worthy plot to continue where Diablo 2 LOD left. All of the story was about a love story between an angel Inarius and a the demon Lilith and creating "Sanctuary" as the result of that mating season. WTF....

Last I remember the story was about Diablo, Baal and Mephisto desire to conquest and destroy humanity and their world. But in order to do that, they needed the way to access the human world. And to do that, they used soulstones corrupted by them socket into human skulls for them to have bodies.

For real, just by watching in Youtube the cinematics of Diablo IV makes me want to puke, compared to the badass story line in Diablo 1 and 2. I can't believe people pay for such a bad game that it is nothing more than a twisted version of what Diablo games used to be. And their main story. Also, who the fuck cares about Lilith, where is Diablo? The reason why the name is called like that. A fucking mess of a game in terms of story. I can't speak about the gameplay, but i'm not giving Blizzard another cent, after the failure of Diablo 3 and Jay Wilson.

Edit: They couldn't create more new bosses aside of reusing Andariel, Duriel and the Butcher?. For fuck sakes, what a lack of imagination from the writers...

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Originally Posted by cigawoot

2 years later and we're still getting "D4 Bad" posts, lol.

Because is really bad.
https://www.metacritic.com/game/diablo-iv/
User Score: 2.6

Steam: Mixed
I love this review, is really accurate:
"Great game, but it's designed entirely as a money trap. The amount of microtransactions for a game costing €50 is insane."

For some reason i dont enjoy Diablo 4 i had a good time back in diablo 2 and 3 but for some reason i cant ghet into this game.
Also decor items dont have the same pull on me as mounts of transmog sets so yeah not buying this.

p.s. why is it a paladin when in the Diablo IP they are called Templar.....

Originally Posted by Altmer

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Because is really bad.
https://www.metacritic.com/game/diablo-iv/
User Score: 2.6

Steam: Mixed
I love this review, is really accurate:
"Great game, but it's designed entirely as a money trap. The amount of microtransactions for a game costing €50 is insane."

Oh..I wasn't aware of the microtransactions and especially not of them being so bad. Re-using bosses but not Diablo...yeah..not very imaginative...so now Mephisto is back. I never made it past level 46 in D3...but IIRC that was more due to playing so much WoW. Which is why I am mostly hesitant about buying D4.

Originally Posted by Just Passing through

Oh..I wasn't aware of the microtransactions and especially not of them being so bad. Re-using bosses but not Diablo...yeah..not very imaginative...so now Mephisto is back. I never made it past level 46 in D3...but IIRC that was more due to playing so much WoW. Which is why I am mostly hesitant about buying D4.

Eh, D4's fine playing it first time around for sake of doing the campaign, side quests and lore.

I just ignore the mtx which are just cosmetics iirc [not sure if you need to pay to unlock more stash slots].

I don't bother with the seasonal and end game stuff as it's a horrendous grind for mats to do RNG rerolls.

Originally Posted by Daedius

Eh, D4's fine playing it first time around for sake of doing the campaign, side quests and lore.

I just ignore the mtx which are just cosmetics iirc [not sure if you need to pay to unlock more stash slots].

I don't bother with the seasonal and end game stuff as it's a horrendous grind for mats to do RNG rerolls.

I admit my fingers always twitch over the "buy" button, when the game is on sale - even better in a bundle with the x-pac. So who knows....I can easily wait until April. see if there are any deals...and if not...wait for August or whenever the first big bundles with all x-pacs comes out.

I don't like the idea of getting cosmetics for buying a different game, but the aesthetic is so out of place anyway I'm not sad I'm missing out on a weird diablo chess set in my house.

Originally Posted by cigawoot

2 years later and we're still getting "D4 Bad" posts, lol.

Damn D4 has been bad for two years crazy they can't fix that turd.

Originally Posted by RobertMugabe

Go to any public neighbourhood and its just stock houses. Ofc this stuff is going to be popular among the 0.1% of the playerbase who do mythic raids, basically those who virtually live in WoW anyways...

funny, ive had the exact opposite experience. claiming housing is not popular is peak making shit up , well done

Originally Posted by doledippers

funny, ive had the exact opposite experience. claiming housing is not popular is peak making shit up , well done

Is it, though? He's not wrong, you can pick anyone and inspect their houses and in 90% there is not a single house that has anything built on the exterior site (except people trying to randomly place things) in the whole neighborhood. Obviously I cannot look into the houses, since the default setting is that it's locked even for friends (which honestly is a dumb gameplay decision).

I disagree with his assumption that "mythic raiders" are the main target audience of housing. I would rather assume they are the last who are interested in spending time doing anything non rewarding in the game.

Originally Posted by Puri

Is it, though?

it is, yes

Originally Posted by doledippers

it is, yes

All it is, is a mix of anecdotal evidence and typical hyperbole on the internet. Basically business as usual. The guy who kicked this off claimed " Housing is pretty much all anyone is doing right now." - and then the next guy comes in and claims something that the third guy misinterprets.

I won't dispute that it "feels" like housing could be a popular feature...maybe even is right now. But how can anyone tell, because it obviously needs a pre-purchase to play. Unless anyone has numbers on anything (which they usually don't have) there is no telling. If people however do have numbers, I'd be interested.

Also I just noticed that we are completely derailing a Diablo 4 thread here.

Originally Posted by Puri

I disagree with his assumption that "mythic raiders" are the main target audience of housing. I would rather assume they are the last who are interested in spending time doing anything non rewarding in the game.

Its surprisingly therapeutical.
The first thing I did after the CE pull I redesigned my house to wind down, lol.

Originally Posted by laughtrey

I don't like the idea of getting cosmetics for buying a different game, but the aesthetic is so out of place anyway I'm not sad I'm missing out on a weird diablo chess set in my house.



Damn D4 has been bad for two years crazy they can't fix that turd.

They've been doing it forever. Starcraft 2 had a WoW pet way back in 2010. Doesn't surprise me housing is being roped into it as well.

Originally Posted by laughtrey

I don't like the idea of getting cosmetics for buying a different game, but the aesthetic is so out of place anyway I'm not sad I'm missing out on a weird diablo chess set in my house.

In a 2 decades old tradition of giving aesthetics from different blizzard games, none of this is as bad as having a fucking miniature diablo follow you, lol.

Originally Posted by Ghostile

In a 2 decades old tradition of giving aesthetics from different blizzard games, none of this is as bad as having a fucking miniature diablo follow you, lol.

And let's not forget that both Mini Diablo and the Zergling weren't even cross-promotions, but the actual WoW Collector's Edition reward!

Originally Posted by druvirus

Literally untrue for miles, lmao. Housing is pretty much all anyone is doing right now. Hell, my mythic raiding team was nearly half empty this past weekend because people were busy with housing. No one is running M+ because of housing, lmao.

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Considering they wanted housing in for vanilla, it seems that it will more align it with its original heart than what we got.

"No one is running M+ because of housing" is signature-worthy, good sir. A new level. Thanks for the laugh!

Originally Posted by tromage2

p.s. why is it a paladin when in the Diablo IP they are called Templar.....

Really?

https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Paladin

Originally Posted by tromage2

For some reason i dont enjoy Diablo 4 i had a good time back in diablo 2 and 3 but for some reason i cant ghet into this game.
Also decor items dont have the same pull on me as mounts of transmog sets so yeah not buying this.

p.s. why is it a paladin when in the Diablo IP they are called Templar.....

lol paladin is the original holy character in diablo, templars and crusaders are splinter factions

Paladin (D2) -> Templar (D3) -> Crusader (D3:RoS)

Originally Posted by Kel_Sceptic

I haven't bought Midnight yet ... and I am still thinking if I will. This player house focus feels like WoW's gone into the SIMS place and it's not coming back.
Ofc I am exagerating .. but still, not preordering yet it's not a good sign.

There's a lot of dead "abandoned" neighbourhoods. And honestly I'm guilty too for a large portion. It's just something that's there, like pet battles. It's nice for the people who do interact and engage with it, but for the most part, it's just there untouched. But that said, unlike pet battles, when people get to flex their creative juices, things do get wild.

Personally I'm just taking my time to decorate my yard. Haven't touched the interiors yet.