Update #3 - Just to make it clear, the NDA on the Alpha isn't lifted, you can still get your ass banned for posting that kind of stuff. Also, Blizzquote layout added now that it's official.

World of Warcraft Cataclysm Press Tour
Earlier this week, general gaming sites and a couple of official fansites were invited to the Blizzard HQ for a press tour of Cataclysm. The NDA (on the press tour, don't get too excited) just lifted and a couple of information have been revealed.

This post will probably be updated multiple times during the night, so far this is what I gathered before the NDA lift:

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Path of the Titans is gone
The whole Path of the Titans idea has been removed from the game. It will no longer rely on Archeology or on any kind of PvE/PvP progression and instead Blizzard will just introduce a new type of glyphs: Medium Glyphs.

Medium Glyphs will add a "fun factor" to abilities, and it wouldn't be surprising to see something similar to the Fortification or Breakthrough glyphs first previewed during Blizzcon 2009. (But probably not these exact glyphs, a lot of stuff happened since last year)

Guild Talents are gone
The guild talents are gone and your guild now gets extra bonuses depending on its level. There are 25 levels and each level will automatically reward with more cool stuff. The leveling process remains unchanged and your guild will gain experience through PvP, Dungeon and Raid progression, questing, etc ...

Guild currency has also been removed and rewards will just be "unlocked" after you reach a specific level or complete a guild achievement. Once a reward is unlocked, members will be able to purchase it with gold. Some of the rewards include guild tabards, mounts, heirlooms, and it looks like you will finally be able to have a guild tabard on your mount. (Just like the Argent Tournament banners)

New members of a guild won't be able to buy everything directly, they will have to contribute to the progression of the guild before they can access the top rewards. Each time a player helps towards the leveling he will gain reputation with the guild, the best rewards will require players to be exalted with their guild before they can buy it.

Archeology will be less important
With the Path of the Titans gone, Archeology will become a "true" secondary profession and you won't really have to level it anymore. However it will still be used to let you get cosmetic/optional items, get more information on the game's lore, and ultimately it looks like we can expect rewards similar to fishing. (Nothing mandatory, but you'll be happy when you actually find something)

Information gathered from other sites:
  • You will find two types of items: Common Artifacts will give you more information on the lore of a race, and might be used in some kind of collection game. Rare items will give you usable items, most of them will be cosmetic but some of them will have actual effects. (Details on Wowhead)

Raids & Dungeons Split
Raid leaders will be able to split an ongoing 25-man raid into up to three 10-man raids. Those 10-man raids will be able to continue from that point on, with bosses already down.

So far it looks like it won't be possible to merge 10-man raids into 25-man raids, for obvious reasons.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • Raid IDs should be much more flexible. You will be able to join any raid as long as it doesn't have any bosses up that you have already killed. (Details on Wowhead)
  • There will be more Algalon-style encounters—ultra-hard optional bosses for hardcore players only. (Details on Wowhead)

Rated Battlegrounds
Rated battlegrounds will be available for pre-mades of 10, 15 and 25-player sizes. The amount of Conquest points rewarded will be capped so that players who enjoy both arenas and rated battlegrounds don't feel they have to prioritize one over the other.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • The classic Honor titles will be coming back and rewarded to the top teams each season. (Details on WoR)
  • The "Gladiator" equivalent teams will also receive epic ground mounts. Ground mounts because they want to reward something you can ride in the battleground and be proud of / show off. (Details on WoR)

Grim Batol Raid
The Grim Batol raid instance will be called the Bastion of Twilight, and you get to fight Cho'gall as the end boss! If you manage to defeat him in Heroic Mode, an "horrific secret will be revealed when he dies".

Information gathered from other sites:
  • This is an entry-level raid, just like Naxxramas in WotLK. (Details on Wowhead)
  • It will feature 5 bosses, and an Algalon-style optional and ultra-hard boss. (The "horrific" secret?) (Details on Wowhead)

Skywall Raid
As expected, Al'akir will be the end boss of the Skywall raid instance.

Information gathered from other sites:

Princess Therazane (yes, that's her) will be a questgiver in Deepholm, in a similar experience to the Sons of Hodir's questline in Storm Peaks.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • The Ogrim's Hammer has crashed in the zone and the Skybreaker is still in the air. One of the questline will require you to find out what happened. (Details on Wowhead)

Heroic Deadmines / Shadowfang Keep
Heroic versions of classic instances might not be ready for the release of Cataclysm and will be shipped in content patch instead.

Old world changes
There are a more details on old world changes, especially capital cities.

Information gathered from other sites:
  • Stormwind has been completely redesigned to accomodate flying mounts. The Park of Stormwind has been destroyed by Deathwing and the Dwarven District now hosts a Bank and an Auction House. (Details on Wowhead)
  • Orgrimmar has been redesigned as well: Garrosh is the new Warchief and is located in the center of Orgrimmar, not in the Valley of Wisdom. Goblins have their own area, the Valley of Wisdom becomes a Tauren district, and there is now a back gate leading directly into Azshara. (Details on Wowhead)

Miscellaneous Changes/Information
  • Wrath of the Lich King had 1000 Quests, Cataclysm has over 3000.
  • The current heirlooms will stop growing after level 80. There will be a whole new crop of heirlooms for Cataclysm. Goblins and Worgen will be able to start using heirlooms immediately at launch. (Details on Wowhead)
Cataclysm Zone Changes
A new video of zone changes in Cataclysm was released. Stole this one from Wowhead.

Cataclysm Screenshots
A few high resolution screenshots have been released. Courtesy of World of Raids.

This article was originally published in forum thread: World of Warcraft Cataclysm Press Tour started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 417 Comments
  1. Bluey111's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Adys View Post
    Just like WotLK dances!

    I liked the conept of path of titans and the guild talent thing =(
  1. tobokke's Avatar
    The whole idea of Path of the Titans seemed clumsy and somewhat rushed just so that it made it into Blizzcon09. I'm glad they got rid with it. Now removing Guild Talents... Meh...
  1. bunnytrail's Avatar
    I wish we still had Path of the Titans and Guild Talents, but oh well I guess. Maybe another time.

    I'm guessing/hoping you got invited to Blizz, Bou? C:
  1. PennyRust's Avatar
    What I am hearing from Blizzard is "If we took enough time to make all the new features work properly everyone would have stopped playing WoW by then, so we are just going to say *screw it* to adding more depth to the game and simply add more LOL fun visuals. Mohawk Grenades are where it's at, right?"
  1. rantus's Avatar
    Guild improvements are still here, what I make of it is that you'll still have all the same things like mass ress and so on, you just won't have to choose which one to take. Imagine a guild trying to decide what talents to take and so on, arguing and so on. And then there would end up being one best guild tree anyway, with some things just never being used.

    The same for PotT, they wanted it to be a real choice so each character would develop differently, but again this would lead to a best option, and probably people being excluded from guilds/pugs and pvp if they hadn't progressed it far enough.
    Imagine the gs tards... "LFM grim batol, link ach, over 7k gs, no noobs, must be max rank PotT"
    Getting max level, entry level geared and then having to grind some more until you can raid? Doesn't sound fun. Although, it would have been cool if it really did have a small enough impact to matter, but then it would also be useless.

    Plus, Hc DM and SFK will still be released, and they are just the same instances as before with higher levels, so it doesn't matter as much, as we'll have the new stuff to try anyway.

    Theres still loads of awesome things about Cataclysm, people just pick up on the negatives. All the hardcore elitists should be happy that theres going to be more really hard content only they can see, but not many have noticed among the qq... anyway, cata still looks great imo.
  1. Malthurius's Avatar
    Path of the Titans gone... and replaced with basically the same thing only non gated... cool.
    Guild Talents gone... but you still get perks for leveling your guild, however no arguments within the guild about what the guild needs.... cool.
    Heroic Classic delays.... understandable, and we're still getting them so, ok.

    I fail to see why this is considered "Removing the cool stuff." but, the internet is full of idiots, so Idc.
  1. Begpo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FaxEmUp View Post
    Raid IDs should be much more flexible. You will be able to join any raid as long as it doesn't have any bosses up that you have already killed.
    Yes! Yesss!! YESSSSS
    At last no stupid ID loss because of stupid noobs!
  1. Rokee's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sixpac View Post
    Maybe the true answer is: Sorry, but we're running out of time.
    I agree.

    Very disappointing and makes me even less excited about Cata.

    It will go like this: The people will be hyped by Cata for about 4-6 months, than it will turn to the same boredom we all got used to.
    Or in other words: Cata will be as generic as both BC and WotLK.
  1. Rifee's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rokee View Post
    I agree.

    Very disappointing and makes me even less excited about Cata.

    It will go like this: The people will be hyped by Cata for about 4-6 months, than it will turn to the same boredom we all got used to.
    Or in other words: Cata will be as generic as both BC and WotLK.
    yet people still play. they must be doing something right
  1. AuthurDent's Avatar
    I cannot tell you how disappointed I am with this news.

    I had already been considering leaving the game because it was getting VERY old... Cataclysm gave me some promise of revitalization and renewed interest. Now it seems they have scrapped anything "new" about it and are just sending us back to Azeroth with a few landscape changes. OH yeah.. 2 new races/starting zones to get you back to level 1 again.

    Even a lot of the content is rehashed... Heroic Deadmines and such.. no wait.. even THEY won't be in the release.

    NOW it seems like a "large patch" more than an expansion.

    I will hold out a little longer til beta is out and more info is available... but it's looking like WoW has finally ran out of reasons for me to stay playing it. Well.. maybe the new MMO project will be something to look forward to. It's pretty clear to me that this decision is a corporate "end of life" choice for the game... and hopefully effort is underway to push development on the new MMO.
  1. Drudatz's Avatar
    Path of Titans nd Guild Leveling Gone is very disappointing...

    Still waiting for the RSSFeed coming back to old form - now its just plain ugly
  1. ELYPOP's Avatar
    The Orgrimmar Preview:

    Is that a black dragon and a naga?
  1. Sjerusalem's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Professor View Post
    See, people like this guy are the reason why they are dumming the game down. If he can't read patch notes, you can't expect him to play complex game. Read 10 pages of these replies and you will see why they have to do these changes. Because 90% of people who play this game have apple-sized brains.

    You can still do normal battlegrounds.
    You can still do normal arena.
    You can still do 10-man raids.
    Your guild will still progress, you just won't have to choose how. (In fact this will help clearing up guild dramas over I WANT EXP / BUT I WANT MORE MONEY)
    Archeology is still in game.
    3000 new quests are still in game.
    All the zones are still being redone.
    There are still flying mounts in Azeroth.
    There are still new raids in Azeroth.
    There are still new dungeons in Azeroth.

    Can do normal bg but i wont get arena point(conquest point) so harder to get pvp gear, and i dont do arena, never liked, i wanted this expansion because i can finaly play only bg and get gear as good as in arena.

    I will do raids but thats not something im talking about.
    I dont care guild progression i wanted the talents to have more fun in the community, im pretty casual, and only play with friends, so thats a fail sir

    Archeology just as much plain now without path of titans as fishin, never liked, blizz said they make so that neither those who got time nor those who not will have advantage in path of titans, guess they gived up early.

    All the zones being redone, and i never complained about that.
    And i like the dungeons and raids but not being able to implent a 5 man heroic which already in the game just lame.

    I dont know you and neither you know me so i would like if you dont state things that arent true.
  1. Saberoy's Avatar
    There were like 3 changes to what they said they were thinking about doing and so many people are crying bloody murder, about to cancel their subscriptions(as if). Really, nothing too amazing was announced. The path of the titans system, as they described it, was glorified leveling after 85. Making you continue to level to gain basic, passive, talent-like things like extra crit % or damage done. And they're scrapping Guild talent tree and instead giving you guild Skills that you still earn as you level your guild up, you still gain guild exp still gain guild bonuses, and still get guild achievements.

    If you are crying so much about these changes that you're ready to not play Cata, and are completely ignoring the whole 2,000 more quests than WOTLK thing, then you were ready to leave the game when you read the post today, and if not, you're just not that bright to begin with.

    Just my thoughts.
  1. Rifee's Avatar
    Will people relax:P

    2 things, yes only 2 frikkin' things have been altered. they haven't been removed, just changed. 2 things, whihc were doomed to be trouble if not changed anyway.

    the expansion will still be good, and alot of things haven't been finished yet, so just relax and wait will ya?
  1. Ramis's Avatar
    Rerforging Changes

    "gamona: Ist das sogenannte „Reforging“ eigentlich noch im Spiel – es hieß ja zunächst, das wäre in irgendeiner Form mit Path of the Titans und Archäologie verbunden?"

    Is reforging still in the games as it was rumored to be connected with Path of the Titans.

    "Tom Chilton: Ja, Reforging ist noch im Spiel, allerdings nicht mehr als Teil eines bestimmten Berufszweiges. Stattdessen wird es einen separaten NPC geben, bei dem ihr gegen Gold eure Items bearbeiten könnt. Ihr legt den gewünschten Gegenstand in das Handelsfenster, wählt diejenigen Stats aus, die ihr verringern wollt und welche ihr dafür neu eingravieren wollt. Wenn ihr z.B. Stärke oder Ausdauer auf dem Gegenstand habt, aber lieber Haste darauf möchtet, könnt ihr die bestehenden Stats um die Hälfte verringern und Haste hinzufügen."

    Yes its still ingame but its no longer part of a profession. There will be a seperate NPC to change Items for Gold. Its like a trade window..you choose the stat you want to replace..like 100 Stamina gets converted to 50 haste and 50 stamina.

    "gamona: Wird es dabei irgendwelche Restriktionen geben oder Cooldowns?"

    Will there be any restrictions or cooldowns ?

    "Tom Chilton: Nein, Cooldowns gibt es keine. Es kostet lediglich etwas Gold, das Reforging durchzuführen. Allerdings dürft ihr jedes Item nur ein einziges Mal verändern."

    No cooldowns just some gold to reforge the item. But you can only reforge an item ONCE.

  1. phai's Avatar
    thats kinda ... ehm ... lame.
  1. Pearroc's Avatar
    Raid id change is good.
    Everything else is disapointing. Hopfully the medium glyphs will be 'fun' and make a difference to the game play, unlike the majority of the current minors.
  1. Soldrethar's Avatar
    awesome, but where the heck is the worgen district in stormwind? or are they going to put it in darnasus (which makes more sense).
  1. Naposim1337's Avatar
    What the hell? Path of the titans and guild talents was the biggest and largest invention in this expansion. What do we have now? New races, revised talents and stats and revised zones + some new zones. No new mechanics... which is bad, pretty bad.

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