Cataclysm Part 2: EK, Grim Batol, Dungeon Loot, Blue Posts

Muffins Presents Cataclysm Part 2: Eastern Kingdoms
Muffins released a 2nd video preview of Cataclysm, it focuses on the Maelstrom/Eastern Kingdoms and is as good as the first one posted a few weeks ago.





Grim Batol Screenshots and Dungeon Loot
Grim Batol is now active on beta servers and players can explore the instance as they wish (flying mounts work there apparently), here are a couple of screenshots from this dungeon.


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Now that all dungeons are now active on beta realms (more on that later), a lot of items have been discovered on PTRs. I cannot sort them by instance yet but lvl 85 normal instances are definitely dropping ilvl 333 loot. Couple of issues with the new in-game cache format, we'll stick to screenshots for the moment.

Models aren't implemented yet.





Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

Death Knight (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Pestilence
We're starting to think that the ship has just sailed on Pestilence. As I said, our original intent was that Blood Boil be the main AE attack, but now we're considering making Blood Boil more for tanking, letting Frost use Howling Blast and letting Unholy use Pestilence, because, you know, diseases.

That is a really great idea. Have you given any thought as to how you would implement it? Like would Unholy be the only spec that could spread full strenght diseases?
Something like that. Full strength might be too powerful, but we'll see. Unholy still has a few too many talents like Improved Icy Touch and Corrupting Strikes, so this might be a good replacement (though likely deeper than those two examples). (Source)

Paladin (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Retribution Mastery
We have actually changed Retribution's mastery. Having both it and Inquisition boost Holy damage was giving too much power to things like Exorcism (over which you have very little control) and not enough to things like Templar's Verdict (which is supposed to be the centerpiece of your rotation). The new mastery will emphasize Templar's Verdict more. (Source)
Warlock (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Warlock Pets
While we generally still want to adhere to the goal of Felhunter = Affliction, Felguard = Demo, Imp = Destro, we want everyone to use their other demons sometimes too. That involved making a lot of changes.

For starters, their damage and survivability will move closer together. We want the decision to be more about utility of their abilities than dps or squishiness. Under the new scaling model, the Imp and Succubus have health, mana and armor not too far off from the Felhunter.

We tried out the Imp doing friendly damage when he dispelled because we thought it was interesting for the demonic feel, but we have already removed it. We also tried an ability to knock allies out of CC that break on damage, but we now think that would be too powerful. Currently the Imp still does a dispel on allies.

We wanted to split Devour Magic into offensive and defensive components or else we felt like the Felhunter would always be the obvious choice for PvP. Now you can choose between having an off-the-GCD silence / interrupt and an offensive dispel / purge -or- having a defensive dispel, increases health and an escape tool.

Like everything else in beta, these are subject to change. We're close to being able to get more max-level PvP feedback and will buff or nerf abilities accordingly. (Source)
This article was originally published in forum thread: Cataclysm Part 2: EK, Grim Batol, Dungeon Loot, Blue Posts started by Boubouille View original post
Published on 2010-09-04 08:44 AM
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  1. Naoto's Avatar
    I thought Blizzard accepted that they fucked up at the start of WOTLK by increasing the damage too much, now they are doing it twice as bad with even FIVE levels? look at the stats on this gear it's absolutely ridiculous, it's only FIVE god damn levels away and it's BLUE, are raid daggers going to be doing 450dps? I mean jesus christ the damage from WOTLK compared to TBC was huge and that was 10 levels but this is just taking the piss.
  1. Lord Lichfury's Avatar
    WTB Worgen mounts/female dance
  1. Doomcloud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoto View Post
    I thought Blizzard accepted that they fucked up at the start of WOTLK by increasing the damage too much, now they are doing it twice as bad with even FIVE levels? look at the stats on this gear it's absolutely ridiculous, it's only FIVE god damn levels away and it's BLUE, are raid daggers going to be doing 450dps? I mean jesus christ the damage from WOTLK compared to TBC was huge and that was 10 levels but this is just taking the piss.
    Dungeons weren't the problem with WOTLK. Sunwell gear was as good/better than the majority of heroic drops, so yes the gear reset is bigger this time. HOWEVER, the problem last time was that the ratings weren't designed around hard mode loot, which basically made like 7 tiers of loot in WOTLK instead of the 4 they had intended.

    Not to mention they are doing a buff on stamina so the impact of a huge dps inflation might not be as bad. If they can keep dps under 50k in normal situations at the end of the expansion I think they will be ok.
  1. Puntar's Avatar
    The damage increase IS BAD for PvP. Regardless of the fact, that resilience will be buffed through the roof.

    In the end PvE players will still be killed in 2 - 3 GCD regardless of ridiculous amount of hp (~ 90k).
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoto View Post
    I thought Blizzard accepted that they <censored> up at the start of WOTLK by increasing the damage too much, now they are doing it twice as bad with even FIVE levels? look at the stats on this gear it's absolutely ridiculous, it's only FIVE <censored> levels away and it's BLUE, are raid daggers going to be doing 450dps? I mean <especially censored> the damage from WOTLK compared to TBC was huge and that was 10 levels but this is just taking the piss.
    You are forgetting that the level cap for Cataclysm is to basically have the effect of 10 levels. If they had chosen to raise the level cap to 90, they would have had to come up with another continent, which is not what Blizzard wanted. You are also forgetting that stamina is getting increased on items to bring the health pools of non-plate wearers closer to plate classes, healing is going to be nerfed, more emphasis on CC and far less AoE, plus much more... I honestly don't know where you've have been lately, but you are not looking at the larger picture.

    ---------- Post added 2010-09-04 at 08:09 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Throrion View Post
    So wait, level 85 normals drop level 83 loot?
    Well, it's not as if level 80 normal dungeons dropped level-cap gear. >_>

    ---------- Post added 2010-09-04 at 08:13 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Gudgid View Post
    I wish the spell sword wasn't a sword, or that shaman could equip swords in Cataclysm.
    I don't know if I would want my main being able to wield a sword. Just thinking about it makes me feel weird. *lol*

    Although your comment does remind me of that one conversation in the Barrens general channel a long time ago. I don't remember all of it, but it involved mages wearing swords and one player responding with, "I blame Gandalf."
  1. Exovion's Avatar
    If the greens and blues are that powerful, I can't even imagine what the endgame epics are going to be like.
  1. Butch's Avatar
    DPS isn't that inflated in beta right now as some of you seem to think, in fact, most people do 5-7k single-target DPS on bosses(at level 85), the highest DPS i have seen so far was a hunter with 11k DPS (he had all 277gear + 284gun from LK25HC). Fury damage almost halved ... i'm doing 5-6k single-target at level 85 with shadowmourne and almost all 277 + a few leveling-blues. Oh, and i have 78k health from that same gear.

    So i don't think you will see people 2-shotting each other in PvP for some time.
  1. Alianthos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Matik View Post
    Pretty sure some of it is placeholder, including the trinkets.
    Maybe about the stat but you can count on the "boring" aspect of these loots : 2 primary stats and 2 secondary stats, that's all you're gonne get. But you can reforge, dont forget that. Reforge will probably give the min-maxers a lot of satisfaction, me thinks
  1. mmoc86b9a17177's Avatar
    Grim Batol looking Nice!
  1. Poper's Avatar
    Must have Cata... Must have epic soundtrack...
  1. Nitex's Avatar
    I thought spell power was going to be completely removed from items?
  1. lupo123's Avatar
    wtb enhancement shaman weapons
  1. Butch's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitex View Post
    I thought spell power was going to be completely removed from items?
    Yes, it's only on weapons now.
  1. Baschvaan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    DPS isn't that inflated in beta right now as some of you seem to think, in fact, most people do 5-7k single-target DPS on bosses(at level 85), the highest DPS i have seen so far was a hunter with 11k DPS (he had all 277gear + 284gun from LK25HC). Fury damage almost halved ... i'm doing 5-6k single-target at level 85 with shadowmourne and almost all 277 + a few leveling-blues. Oh, and i have 78k health from that same gear. .
    So pretty much Blizzard has nerf'd DPS extremely? If you're wearing mostly 277 and only doing 6kish, then they've brought it down quiet a bit, seeing as you should be around 12k with that gear.
  1. Zaerix's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    DPS isn't that inflated in beta right now as some of you seem to think, in fact, most people do 5-7k single-target DPS on bosses(at level 85), the highest DPS i have seen so far was a hunter with 11k DPS (he had all 277gear + 284gun from LK25HC). Fury damage almost halved ... i'm doing 5-6k single-target at level 85 with shadowmourne and almost all 277 + a few leveling-blues. Oh, and i have 78k health from that same gear.

    So i don't think you will see people 2-shotting each other in PvP for some time.
    Well don't forget that Blizzard basically just got to the point at which they can start to consider numbers. Before, they had stated repeatedly that they weren't far enough into beta to consider numbers yet.
  1. Salfriel's Avatar
    am i the only one who thinks those are some insane stats for blues?
  1. smartlili2's Avatar
    wow look at all the stamina on all of that gear, we are going to have a huge amount of health in cata.
  1. mtawney1313's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoto View Post
    I thought Blizzard accepted that they fucked up at the start of WOTLK by increasing the damage too much, now they are doing it twice as bad with even FIVE levels? look at the stats on this gear it's absolutely ridiculous, it's only FIVE god damn levels away and it's BLUE, are raid daggers going to be doing 450dps? I mean jesus christ the damage from WOTLK compared to TBC was huge and that was 10 levels but this is just taking the piss.
    Because health and armor aren't increasing EVEN MORE, right?

    ---------- Post added 2010-09-04 at 07:23 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Baschvaan View Post
    So pretty much Blizzard has nerf'd DPS extremely? If you're wearing mostly 277 and only doing 6kish, then they've brought it down quiet a bit, seeing as you should be around 12k with that gear.
    You have to keep in mind that ICC currently inflates dps with the 30% buff. Also, running in 10 and 25 man raids also means buffs that increase that dps substantially further. Right now my mut rogue is in full 277 other than 2 264 pieces, does over 17k dps on Saurfang, but only hits about 7k single target dps with no buffs.
  1. Master Guns's Avatar
    Holy crap @1533 spellpower on a blue level 83 staff. I can't wait to see level 85 epics. 3k+ spellpower on one staff? Casters are going to be critting hard..
  1. azurrei's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Butch View Post
    DPS isn't that inflated in beta right now as some of you seem to think, in fact, most people do 5-7k single-target DPS on bosses(at level 85), the highest DPS i have seen so far was a hunter with 11k DPS (he had all 277gear + 284gun from LK25HC). Fury damage almost halved ... i'm doing 5-6k single-target at level 85 with shadowmourne and almost all 277 + a few leveling-blues. Oh, and i have 78k health from that same gear.

    So i don't think you will see people 2-shotting each other in PvP for some time.
    wait, why are you still using shadowmourne???? that lvl 83 blue has about 500 more top end dmg...go get one of those and test dps...
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