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Cataclysm Currency Changes Formula
Originally Posted by Vaneras (Blue Tracker)
Here's some information on how each of the currencies will be converted in the next content patch. Keep in mind these values may change, and they can get a bit math heavy. Just know that our intent is to appropriately value each mark and provide a conversion we feel is fair.

The following items are immediately converted to gold:


  • Emblem of Heroism = 5.5 gold each
  • Emblem of Valor = 5.5 gold each
  • Emblem of Conquest = 5.5 gold each
  • Badge of Justice = 1.833 gold each

Your New Honor Points total will be the sum of the following amounts:


  • Old Honor * 0.024
  • Old Arena Points * 0.85
  • Battleground Mark of Honor * 2.976
  • Wintergrasp Mark of Honor * 19.08
  • Stone Keeper Shard * 1.6
  • Venture Coin * 3
  • Spirit Shard * 1

Your Justice Points total will be equal to (Emblems of Triumph + Emblems of Frost ) * 2.75

Again, the softcap for both Honor and Justice conversions is 4000 points. This means that if a character converts to above 4,000 points, it will not be possible for them to earn more until they fall below the 4,000 cap.

A hardcap will be implemented in a following patch before Cataclysm's release. At that time, any excess points above 4,000 will be converted as follows:


  • Honor points above 4,000 are converted to gold at a rate of 35 silver per point of Honor.
  • Justice points above 4,000 are converted to gold at a rate of 2 gold per point of Justice.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Cataclysm Currency Changes Formula started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 237 Comments
  1. Eled.'s Avatar
    If that's only 1 or 2 items, yes, I'm okay with that.
    In fact it depends on final values, JP incomes, items cost.. I just hope you won't be able to buy a whole "raid-starter" gear from day-one with those free Justice points.
  1. Daehawk's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eled. View Post
    If that's only 1 or 2 items, yes, I'm okay with that.
    In fact it depends on final values, JP incomes, items cost.. I just hope you won't be able to buy a whole "raid-starter" gear from day-one with those free Justice points.
    It'll probably be similar to the costs of pvp gear based on Honor / arena points are right now. Around 1.1k per Helm/Chest/Legs, 900~ for Shoulders/gloves. So if you have 4k which is the max you'll be able to get 3-4. Chest+Legs+Helm+Gloves = 4k if those numbers I pulled out of the air are any where around what they are.
  1. mmoccc32bf69b9's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Palahniuk View Post
    Hi Boub,

    I admit I'm fairly unique in using Chromium 6 on linux, however... It's using your HTMl5 number input boxes and your javascript doesn't trigger when the up/down arrows are used.
    As I have previously stated, this is an issue with chrome. It doesn't trigger the changed event correctly on release/beta, but dev is partially way there. There is absolutely nothing we can do.
  1. Darkia's Avatar
    thats strange boub your patch has more gigs then my down loader

    mine is saying 1.58gigs, also might mean that you french players get more data then us Americans
  1. dsmania's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkia View Post
    thats strange boub your patch has more gigs then my down loader

    mine is saying 1.58gigs, also might mean that you french players get more data then us Americans
    Localized versions of the game also download translation stuff like texts and speech apart from the base packages that are in english.
    Even if you play only in english, when you buy the game in a country with localized version, it'll come flagged as being of that country. In Boub's case, it'll be "frFR" and will download both frFR and enGB files. There are ways to skip those, but that's the standard case.
  1. Odexy's Avatar
    Does anyone have the irking problem of reading any mmo post made by Boub in Garfields voice?
  1. mmoccedd099ca1's Avatar
    Did anyone on the PTR check out the pvp/arena item prices and rating requirements? Been wondering if they up the prices on those as well... (I'd check it out myself, if I didn't have a download limit on my internet grrrrrr).
  1. Daedius's Avatar
    Feck me that's one big patch... and I'm nearing me monthly limit already - and it's just the FIRST part ! >_<
  1. Obrysii's Avatar
    How will I be able to buy the Wintergrasp Commendations for my alts now?

    I wanted to get my Worgen Warrior some of the legacy weapons ...
  1. Yazus's Avatar
    Well, the first part of 4.0.1 probably includes the old world, which is pretty much completed and fixed, tested to death and its ok for relase... also probably all the new UI/skins/music!

    The part 2 will probably relased with all the equipment sets/skins/textures etc
  1. Kazlofski's Avatar
    4.0.1 system changes. 4.0.3 content changes.
  1. Magmaros's Avatar
    so 4.0.1 next week yeah?
  1. Eucep's Avatar
    My issue is that the background downloader no longer seems to want to start up.
  1. Rugus's Avatar
    Fix for "HELP! Background downloader no longer seems to want to start up"

    + open your WoW folder
    + delete BackgroundDownloader.exe
    + run "repair.exe" choosing the CHECK ONLY option
    + wait
    + re-launch BackgroundDownloader.exe, it will work again
  1. Zka's Avatar
    Too bad that repair doesn't fully download backgrounddownloader.exe for me. Just stops halfway and that's it.
  1. Neitiry30's Avatar
    omg is it 10 hours to download this patch for real? after 45 min im at 3% only.i hope i dont have an error message at half way lol its taking forever.
  1. Sherkon's Avatar
    Tkanks a lot, it works
  1. Junicha's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Neitiry30 View Post
    omg is it 10 hours to download this patch for real? after 45 min im at 3% only.i hope i dont have an error message at half way lol its taking forever.
    That doesn't sound right... I'm at 90% after about 3 hours of downloading.
  1. DrgnDancer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bregtann View Post
    No, try reading it again.

    Honor is honor. Like, you know, we've had honor points for the last couople of years in the game. You use honor points to buy PvP gear and the current cap of 75k honor is being raised even further.

    The 4k cap is for Justice Points, which is the new PvE currency that is modelled on the old honor points for PvP. it will work similar but it is different. And it is for PvE, not for PvP.
    Ehh... Did you read a different post than everyone else?
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Your New Honor Points total will be the sum of the following amounts:

    * Old Honor * 0.024
    * Old Arena Points * 0.85
    * Battleground Mark of Honor * 2.976
    * Wintergrasp Mark of Honor * 19.08
    * Stone Keeper Shard * 1.6
    * Venture Coin * 3
    * Spirit Shard * 1
    ....

    Honor points above 4,000 are converted to gold at a rate of 35 silver per point of Honor.
    That's what the blue post I read said. Which makes your parent post completely correct.

    Edit to add:
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoto View Post
    I'd love to go back to the days of TBC where the only epics you had came from raiding or being exhalted with a faction, I loved doing heroics with people in blue gear which took like 2 hours and when you got someone full epic you KNEW they were good and it was rare, now everyone is epic in WOTLK by heroics alone, so hopefully Cata is more like TBC.
    And you apparently played a different TBC than I did. I know plenty of people that never set foot in a TBC raid, but went into Wrath with almost full Epics from Heroic instances, Rep, badges, and PvP. PvP was especially popular, since it was relatively easy to get, and TBC PvP gear didn't budget nearly as much for resilience. It was actually decent for PvE.
  1. mmoca0ac7856f5's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Obrysii View Post
    How will I be able to buy the Wintergrasp Commendations for my alts now?

    I wanted to get my Worgen Warrior some of the legacy weapons ...
    You can probably buy the stuff with the new honor point system. I don't think that all of those items will get taken away instantly.

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