Cataclysm Release, Dalaran Portals, Cataclysm Epic Stats

Originally Posted by Airath

The point cap obviously. You are gonna get 1/2, maybe even 1 whole item, if you save points now, since they are obviously gonna raise the cap again, once Cata is released. No big issue.

I'm not sure you understood my post. I'm aware of the point cap, but if WotLK heroics are going to give justice points as a reward then you could simply go back and farm them at 85, buying items as you go to stay under the cap.

As I said, it's possible that WotLK heroics will stop giving points when the expansion launches, but I haven't read any plans for that happening.

Originally Posted by Zokten

No I'm just not a total tool like you seem to be.



Not even sure why you said this.

So im a tool for quoting Blizzard themselves saying they have 11 million subscribers ? Ok then. You dont seem to bring out the real numbers sir, so you contribute nothing but namecalling to the debate. Please leave this thread until you have something to contribute and let the adults debate

Originally Posted by Airath

The point cap obviously. You are gonna get 1/2, maybe even 1 whole item, if you save points now, since they are obviously gonna raise the cap again, once Cata is released. No big issue.

Given that he said farming level 80 instances at 85, this isn't true, there won't be a cap on Justice points once cata hits, only Valor points.

However I would guess that WotlK instances will give a fraction of the points that Cata ones do, if anything at all.

mmo-champion continue to announce fake release date, rofl, are they going to predict a release date for all month xD? They already do it for june/july/september/november and december, maybe it's a good way to get a lot of visit on the website, but ..

Originally Posted by Sensa

the conversion ratio is terrible and the price of those items is very high....there will be no at 85 that will be able to buy pieces the minute they turn 85

It depends. Before I started converting my Frosts in Primordials and Triumphs in gems a few months back I had hundreds of both. I think I was over 1k Triumphs and that was after I had a break till long after ICC release.
A decent raider doing dailies as well can earn over 70 Frosts and even more Triumphs per week. Do that a couple of months and you'll have 1k+ of both. With a conversion of 2.75 x (frost + triumph) you're looking at reaching the 4k cap without any trouble before even the release of Cata.

If the prices of the Justice items are similar to the Valor ones (1250 and 1650) you're looking at 3 pieces for a lot of raiders the second they hit 85.

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Originally Posted by Knirps

*rubs her temples* First off, it's not racist, I think there's a word for it, anti-semetic or something. Because jews aren't a race, it's a religion and kinda a race...it's a whole mess I'm not getting into.

Second, it's ignorant in a slang, and not official sense, because he knows I was joking and was taking from a stereotype that someone who is jewish might not be so generous.

Ok, I stand corrected. I change my label of you from "racist" to "anti-semetic". Thats clearly better in your oppinion. Second of all, how do you expect me to know you are kidding ? Do I know you in real life ? No. Did you use a smiley ? No.

And where is the logic in even mentioning jewish people in a QQ from you about a game ? Use your head

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Originally Posted by petrefax

Are you completely stupid? You called him on numbers when he quoted the most often-used figure for subscribers and gave a huge safety net by allowing you to halve it, even if you don't agree with the figures you don't need to be a genius to work out why he said it.

We all know why they are the most often used

Seems you two geniuses can't figure out that I didn't say anything about the game being a success or not.

Fail. Legendary Fail if this game launches mid December, getting buried in a lot of other releases, family/friend time during this time. What is going on at that developer already? Things are way out of control, or just have been sloppy all around. Can't wait to watch blizz's subs go down even further from when all the people that bounced after they realized the game wouldn't launch in Aug, and that ICC was going to be "THEE" raid still, nearly a YEAR later. Mine's up, and they're still not getting my money. Stacking this too long of a release with the current crap Art design, we may actually finally be witnessing Blizzard fall the furthest into mediocrity we've ever seen them. Maybe WoW just wore out it's welcome. It had a good run.

Fail, Blizzard, Fail. Written in Orange. Legendary. Can't wait to see everyone's reaction when Bobby Kotick goes in there and cleans house for their incompetence.

Originally Posted by Arthmael

On Topic: I hope archeology is in the pre-cata patch so I have something to level and it will be cool to do while exploring all the changes.

I doubt it. Archaeology is a Cata selling point and will only be available for people with Cata, so not in the patch.

The portal changes i dont mind. All the portals you need are in the major city's. On a side note the best thing about this expansion is that when cata will hit live servers. we wont see people running around in raid tier gear that they have bought with badges. Thank god it's only avalible to people who actually raid.

T11 Paladin for example.
Tank/Heal/DPS gear have the same stamina.

Originally Posted by lilbruz

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Ok, I stand corrected. I change my label of you from "racist" to "anti-semetic". Thats clearly better in your oppinion. Second of all, how do you expect me to know you are kidding ? Do I know you in real life ? No. Did you use a smiley ? No.

And where is the logic in even mentioning jewish people in a QQ from you about a game ? Use your head

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Yes, I know, I'm super serious and also raging, and clearly a Nazi because I didn't go DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Imo, you must be lashing your wrists because your crying so much in your posts, and there's neither an angry face nor a happy face.

Originally Posted by lilbruz

So im a tool for quoting Blizzard themselves saying they have 11 million subscribers ? Ok then. You dont seem to bring out the real numbers sir, so you contribute nothing but namecalling to the debate. Please leave this thread until you have something to contribute and let the adults debate

Yes you are a tool for quoting blizzard obviously skewed numbers.

Find it funny how you talk about contribute something to some "debate" that doesn't exist.

Also find it amusing how you talk about "adult debate" while name calling yourself.

Originally Posted by Zokten

We all know why they are the most often used

Seems you two geniuses can't figure out that I didn't say anything about the game being a success or not.

No you didnt. Nor are we calling you out for that. Maybe you should read and comprehend a little before making stuff up in your mind my friend.

You were the one that called me on my numbers. I asked you to correct me with the right numbers. You answered by calling me a tool, and people defended the 11 million number cause thats the number of subscribers Blizzard officially have.

If you dont want to correct the number, and instead just call people names, you go right ahead and do that. Its your right to say what you want. And its my right for ignoring your "contribution to the debate" for being silly, childish and ignorant

QQ I want to fly in old world! ah well who wants a rushed game full of bugs/glitches???? Guess i will give the ptr a go...

So you can only get tier gear by tokens now? whatta pain in the ass when you have all 10 hero classes.

Release date being pushed back is Not cool.

Originally Posted by Knirps

Yes, I know, I'm super serious and also raging, and clearly a Nazi because I didn't go DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Imo, you must be lashing your wrists because your crying so much in your posts, and there's neither an angry face nor a happy face.

Im not calling you anything, nor am I doing anything to my wrists, nor am I jewish.

Im just pointing out that things like your comment tends to be a little silly in debates where it has no place at all - serious or not

Am I the only one who noticed there's no ranged weapon for hunters in the Justice Points Rewards at the moment? And yeah, I know... "Beta is Beta".

Poor poor huntards.

Originally Posted by Dekanos

The release date was never Nov. 2, Boub was an idiot for posting that he heard 'word of mouth' that it was Nov. 2 and he or anyone that believed that tomfoolery was a goddamn moron. Blizz will never release a Warcraft title before Nov. 27th. Ever.

Please stop posting things that have no basis in reality and no reference.

You're an idiot, Gamestop had the release date listed as Nov 2, and while most of us knew it would get pushed back, that was the (ahem) 'official' release date, so quit stroking your e-peen and post something useful.

Also, I'm bummed about the pushback, but hey, at least they are giving us a cool leadup event, tbh, the scourge invasion before Wrath kicked ass, if this is as good I'm perfectly happy to wait another month.