Cataclysm Release, Dalaran Portals, Cataclysm Epic Stats

Cataclysm possibly being released even later?
Easy portals from Shattrath and Dalaran removed?

Worst. News. Ever.

Maybe that this time, the dmg received will be modified heavly by armor, making cloth less absorbant and plate more.

They've actually buffed cloth/leather armor and nerfed plate just to prevent this. They want cloth and leather providing more protection, and plate less.

Also if you watch the beta videos the dps don't have low health at all. It isn't too far from the tanks tbh.

Want an example, look in the list above at plate dps vs plate tank stamina. It's the same on dps and plate. Depending on how well mastery scales it might be better to tank in some of that dps gear.

Another example of armor is look at the tank plate piece for armor compared to the mail dps chest piece.

tank armor 3298 mail dps 2322

Originally Posted by maltoman

Yeah well since when have Blizzard been accurate with release dates -.- thought they would have learned by now not to get ppls hope up by setting a release date when it's not final...

except Blizzard havent announced anything. Boub made quite ridiculous estimate "based on his sources" and people actually believed it was the real date. Its their own fault, beta testers were telling them that it just wont be ready by a long shot by that date.

Originally Posted by ChaosInc

If your idea of "bustling and lively" is 200+ people standing still in place while phasing in and out of existence as LFD queues pop, then this is accurate. Although it does have a more "complete" feeling than other capital cities. How many empty houses are there in SW again?

I wasn't speaking so much of the actual players and more of the fact that it actually felt a bit like a city, with shopping districts, random passersby (the NPCs that gave you directions were named vs. just random guards) and a feeling of height and... weight, for lack of a better word? I remember the very first time I came to Dalaran, I spent an hour exploring the nooks and crannies and checking out all the interesting stuff in the sewer. I'll be sad to leave all that behind.

Um, the entire point and lore of the world is based around war. Perhaps you are playing the wrong game. I hear Hello Kitty doesn't have a war theme....

I'm all about a big war! War with the Burning Legion, war with the Scourge, war with Deathwing, war with the naga... there's tons and tons of war to be had in WoW, and THAT is what I come for. But there's really no reason for the Alliance and Horde to be at war with each other. There are enough bad guys to fight without fighting people who aren't even bad guys to begin with!

Once again, someone proves how lazy WotLK players are. Next people will be screaming they want to be instantly teleported to their quest mobs and back again so they don't have to walk all the way there.

Easy mode is leaving guys. Get on the train with it or deal.

Convenience and easy mode are not the same thing. The entire point of a game is to have fun while you're playing it. If there is unreasonable and annoying stuff that the game forces you to do, then you're no longer having fun, and thus the game is failing on some level.

Asking us to walk to quest mobs is not unreasonable as there are usually five different quests that you can do enroute and get a lot done. Plus you get to enjoy and explore the world that Blizz has created. But lengthy travel times can be annoying, and having an efficient and convenient method of getting from one continent to another is not a bad thing in any way, shape or form. If nothing else, it lets us get to the really amazing and enjoyable content that much faster!

Also, there's no reason to say negative things about WOTLK players, any more than there's any reason to say negative things about vanilla players (for the record, I'm a BC player). As a community, it is up to us to show each other respect and seek ways to ensure the game remains enjoyable for everyone, not just one group or another. Don't say, "Well, WOTLK players are lazy and I'm glad they won't be having as much fun," say, "I want to be sure that WOTLK players continue to have a good time WHILE NOT infringing on my own enjoyment!" Fun is not a limited quantity thing, and the more we share it, the more fun we all have. ^_^

EDIT: I apologize if I came off angry or insulting. There's really no excuse for that. I just get very frustrated when I see fellow players taking shots at each other and being negative towards each other instead of trying to find ways of helping each other and encouraging Blizz to find good solutions that will ensure that everyone enjoys themselves equally. I know it's possible; TBC and WOTLK both came really close but fell short due to game balance issues. I'm just hoping that they manage to tune Cata correctly so that everyone, from the most skilled hardcore raider to the scrubbiest casual and everything inbetween, has something really fun to apply themselves to.

I'm cool with this.

Originally Posted by Typhron

I'm cool with this.

Me too, Not happy with the class balacne on PTR. Seems work needs to be done

Am I mistaken?

Points =/= Emblems so everyone will start off with 0?

Dec 14 would be spectacular since I am off work the 2nd half of december for the holidays.

Originally Posted by h44mm00

There is no reason to delay it, this is just marketing and wanting more money (as if they won't make hundreds of millions of dollars if they released in Novemeber anyway). Very frustrating for the people who were trying to plan around the holiday seasons.

My conspiracy theories:

-No portals in old content is a way to goad players into purchasing the expansion... where there will be a NEW portal hub. This is especially irksome to level capped twink accounts.

-Changes such as the nerf to Human EMFH (from 2min to 3min) is to encourage a migration from the most popular race in WoW to something else so Blizz can collect race change fees. Maybe to undead since WotF got a bit un-nerfed (for once).

I'm not saying a blame Blizz for trying to make money, but these seem blatant.

Originally Posted by Demoncrash

pretty sure its just the new talent trees and other stuff like guild lvling/achievement system, new stat system,etc. You wont get the revamped world with quests or new races until Cataclysm launches, though there will be a staged world event like the scourge invasion for WotLK.

There will be two patches prior to Cataclysm. What you are describing is in 4.0.1. 4.0.3 will contain the new world changes as well as the new race/class combos excluding Worgen/Goblin.

Take a look at this post for further clarification...
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...73&pageNo=2#31

Big problem with the delay for the expanison is now you have the same people whining about the expansion pack not coming out fast enough and that they are quitting.

Those same people are now playing LOTRO free and bitching and filling that games channels with crap and whining that it is not WoW or like WoW.I even saw a damn ICC 25 man recruitment crap going on in the Crickhollow servers OOC chat channel yesterday for cripes sake.

Either you like WoW and play it or you don't and never play it again,but stop coming to another game that had no issues in it's chat channels that much and filling it with your crap.If you want to play WoW then GTFO of the other game and play f'ing WoW.

Originally Posted by Dekanos

The release date was never Nov. 2, Boub was an idiot for posting that he heard 'word of mouth' that it was Nov. 2 and he or anyone that believed that tomfoolery was a goddamn moron. Blizz will never release a Warcraft title before Nov. 27th. Ever.

Please stop posting things that have no basis in reality and no reference.

Wrath was launched on Nov 13th and BC was delayed several months.

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Originally Posted by Yörgle

Justice points for Cata items ?! :-O
Isn't it a typo ? I assume the "justice pt" section is meant to be "hero pt"...

If I remember correctly - Valor points are for current PvE content and are from raids only AKA Frosts. Justice points are for old content and can be obtained from Heroics AKA Triumphs. Conquest pts are Catas version or Arena points for high end PvP gear and Honor pts are for low end PvP gear.

Originally Posted by powerstuck

What most of people are saying is that xpac going live week and half before christmas screws their holiday vacation planning, in other words, screw holidays with family, wow is more important... I just hope i'm getting it wrong.

As far as why the date was (potentialy) postponed...it may be factory issues (cd/dvds production and packaging), ERSB rating issues, language packs issues to name the few.

I highly doubt blizz releases cata after dec 7 2010. If they do it will be in Jan. Although Kotick will release it on christmas cause no wow over the holidays is a budget black hole. Guess blizz shouldn't expect any christmas bonuses.

Originally Posted by h44mm00

There is no reason to delay it, this is just marketing and wanting more money

"Marketing"? Wait... what?

You're suggesting that leaking a delayed release to a site that's read exclusively by people who already play the game and were going to buy the expansion anyway is "marketing"? Have you seen the instances on the PTR? Have you watched any of the videos? Nothing is ready to go, and they have at least a month's worth of work to do. That puts them at late October before they're even ready to start doing the final QA on the gold CD, giving QA what, a week to test the CD to make sure it won't break your launcher, preventing you from playing the game or delete your sound driver? Yeah, that won't end in crying.

Sit back, take a deep breath, and appreciate the fact that Blizzard won't ship until it's done.**

** - Done being defined as very nearly complete except for 3 or 4 raid instances, wonky heroics that will need tuning and PvP balance problems that will last through the first two patch cycles.

WTF, agility bonus for Warrior set? Most likely (hopefully actualy) a bug.

They are gonna run out of Gladiator adjectives. "Vicious" was the last one I could think of.

50g Per mage port in cata sounds about right.

Originally Posted by kraeden

They are gonna run out of Gladiator adjectives. "Vicious" was the last one I could think of.

WTB Mildly Annoyed Gladiator set.

As long as they don't delay it as long as they did for Burning Crusade. That'll suck a bit.

can anyone tell me where those vendors are?

edit: pvp are in Og i was asking about t11 ^^