US Maintenance
Originally Posted by Laetzin (Blue Tracker)
Due to unforeseen circumstances, we are extending the maintenance for all realms until 1PM PDT.

Thank you for your patience.

Is Patch 4.0.1 Today?
Probably not, really.


Cataclysm Raid Testing Soon!
Originally Posted by Valnoth (Blue Tracker)
We've been testing raids extensively in-house for months. Beta raid testing will begin very soon. Stay tuned.

And yes, there will be new character templates available and there will be a reset to character copy limit.

[...] Daelo and/or a CM will post a schedule when we are ready.

Guild Member Caps for Cataclysm
Originally Posted by Mumper (Blue Tracker)
We will be introducing a new, hard cap of 600 members in a single guild for Cataclysm. This function will go live with patch 4.0.1 and is already live on the beta and PTR's.

As most of you already know, we have supported a soft cap of 500 members in a guild since World of Warcraft launched. We have allowed guilds to exceed the 500 limit up until now since being in a guild really just amounted to ranks and chat channels. With the advent of the new guild system in Cataclysm we are tracking many more things on each individual player in a guild and in order to support that, we need to limit the amount of members to a reasonable level.

The new cap of 600 members is fully supported in the new guild system and that means that everyone will be visible in the ui and able to contribute to all guild functions like experience and reputation gain. We have pulled a large number of statistics to get to the 600 member cap for guilds and we are happy to say that this value covers more than 99.9% of all the active guilds in World of Warcraft.

The small number of guilds that are over the 600 person cap will be able to keep their guilds intact (and fully supported in the new guild system), but they will not be able to add new members until they fall below the 600 member cap.

Dressing Room Zoom
Cataclysm will add a much-needed feature to the Dressing Room, you can finally zoom in/out with your mousewheel! (Thanks to Twible for his PM)



The real purpose of Goblins revealed in a Cinematic Easter Egg
The cinematic posted a few days ago has an ... interesting easter egg. Can you find it in this picture? (Thanks to Chromatic19 for his PM!)



Honor Jewelcrafter Quartermaster gone in 4.0.1
Apparently, the Jewelcrafter Quartermaster will be removed in 4.0.1. A lot of people have been asking what would be the new price of epic gems with the new honor points, the answer is simple, you can no longer buy them in 4.0.1. The NPC has been recycled as a Weapon Quartermaster.



Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
New race/classes combo availability
They will be available to everyone shortly before the release of Cataclysm when The Shattering takes place. (Source)

Dance Studio - Blizzard promised me a (dancing) pony!
New dances remain a work in progress and we do not have plans to implement them prior to Cataclysm.

[...] We absolutely wouldn't advertise something in a trailer if we have no intention of including that feature. The trailers are virtually always created more than a year prior to the release of what they're advertising. All of the features are planned -- or work on them has already begun -- but we never know until much closer to the release date what features might have to be shelved to ensure bigger features are polished.

We announced new dances for Wrath of the Lich King and a good deal of work went into them, but we weren't happy with the feature overall as we got closer to release. We decided we would hold off on trying to push it out anyway and focus on bigger projects.

This is the nature of good development, even if it leaves some disappointed. (Source)

New Official Website
The new website is still in development and planned for release prior to the launch of Cataclysm. The new forums will coincide with this release. (Source)

Guild Leveling
Guild features in 4.0.1
The user interface changes for guilds will take place in 4.0.1. The actual guild advancement features will be implemented with Cataclysm itself. (Source)

Guild Mounts reputation requirements
The reputation requirement will be shown on the tooltip once the reward is unlocked via it's corresponding achievement.

Both the guild mounts require exalted faction to purchase. (Source)

Guild Experience/Reputation Boost on Beta
The 5x multiplier is currently active for both experience and reputation. Getting stuck around 9k is right around where we expect players to be with the multiplier. The cap on reputation is weekly and will reset Tuesday night at 3am. (Source)

Raids & Dungeons
Mimiron's Head / Invincible in 4.0.1
No changes are being made to raid mounts in patch 4.0.1. (Source)

Realm First achievements - 10/25 Mode
They are available to both 10 and 25 player raids, whoever does it first.

[...] We currently have no plans to change realm first raid kills into separate achievements for 10 / 25 player raids. Our new flexible raid lock system allows players many more choices and opportunities to complete the content in the way that suits them best. Making separate achievements here goes directly against that philosophy.

And just to be clear, these achievements offer no rewards or titles. (Source)

Classes
Ability queue system
If I am tanking on live, and I spamming devastate pre-emptively and I see shield slam light up from my proc, I can easily switch over to hitting shield slam and shield slam will go off.

On beta, if I am spamming devastate and I see shield slam light up. I will be locked into devastate if it's within like 1~sec until the GCD is up. I see devastate light up, I try spam to hit shield slam but it will not go off.
We had to change the ability queue system you are describing to fix an exploit that was threatening to become pretty widespread. It is unfortunately one of those cases where a few bad apples ruin things for everyone.

We are working on an improvement where the most recent command will override the previous one. If for example you are spamming Hamstring, and then succeed in snaring someone, you can switch to Mortal Strike which will clear out the Hamstring queue instead of wasting more GCDs on Hamstring. (Source)

Death Knight (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Rune Strike
We changed Rune Strike to: after a dodge or parry or whenever you are in Blood Presence.

We can use RS any time we have 20 RP if we are in blood presence, No cd other then GCD. No need for avoidance to light it up.
Correct. (Source)

Paladin (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Holy Paladin - Beacon of Light / Protector of the Innocent
Beacon isn't going anywhere. We think the Cataclysm implementation is in a good place between never wanting to heal the tank and always wanting to heal the tank.

We changed Protector of the Innocent to make the talent feel less like Divinity not because we were trying to band-aid any real or imagined paladin problems as some of your conspiracy theories suggest.

If, as some of you think, Holy paladin throughput is low, then we'll buff it before it goes live. It will be easier to make direct comparisons between healing specs once more folks (besides us I mean) are testing raids. And by direct comparisons, I don't mean who wins the meters. (Source)

Paladin Tanking and GCD
As you might have surmised, I spent a lot of time in this thread gathering information because we were concerned about player perceptions of the paladin rotation. That conversation in turn spawned additional, less-public conversations and ultimately resulted in our convening a distinguished panel of experts in our secret mountain hideaway for a discussion of paladin tanking mechanics.

While we still have grave concerns about players being able to fill every GCD, we also don't want to change paladin tanking so much that it is unrecognizable for long-term paladins. Therefore, we are going to try Crusader Strike on a 3 second cooldown for Protection only. Hammer of the Righteous will have the same cooldown. This will allow Protection to fill in almost every gap in the rotation and not be waiting so long on every cooldown, which should help the rotation feel more active. It will also allow Inquisition and Shield of the Righteous to sometimes be up at the same time. That change is pretty significant and will no doubt invite all sorts of theorycrafting on the right way to manage Holy Power. We still have additional grave concerns that once paladins can have both Inquisition and Shield of the Righteous up simultaneously that they will feel underpowered and therefore frustrated whenever they lack sufficient Holy Power for 100% uptime on both. We'll just have to see how that feels.

While we still think an off the GCD interrupt isn't an essential tool for a tank, we also don't think it's going to break anything for paladins to have one either. Our eventual solution is to let Vindication's ability to let HoJ interrupt also take HoJ off of the global cooldown. That change will require new tech, so it's not something you're likely to see anytime soon, but you can know that it's in our long term plans. Again, we don't think the interrupt issue is a critical problem that must be solved today. The rotation one in the previous paragraph is a bigger deal.

I have to add the standard no promises clause to all of the above, because I have learned that I need to do that. (Source)

I'm sorry I disagree with people here, but I don't like bieng GCD locked, its not fun, its not a test of skill, its a test of your ability to get your rotation into muscle memory and alternate CS with other abilities. I see no reason that cast random doesn't fill in the second half of our rotation as it stands...
We agree, Llowelyn. Our hope is that the changes I described above still provide some gaps without crossing the line into too many unpredictable gaps, which is it how it felt for a lot of paladins. I do have concerns that several months from now we're going to see "Stop making me use Judgement! I don't have the GCDs to use it, and I CAN'T delay Crusader Strike, or I am missing out on Holy Power generation and my threat goes to pot!" (Source)

Inquisition
We like Inquisition as an ability for Protection. It means that all your Holy Power doesn't automatically go to Shield of the Righteous. You might sometimes be able to have both layered now. That was a concern we had, but it also may prove interesting as long as one isn't always the right choice and as long as paladins don't start complaining when they don't have enough Holy Power generation to always power both. (Source)

Hammer of the Righteous/Crusader Strike Cooldown
Crusader Strike - 3 sec cooldown. Hammer of the Righteous - 3 sec cooldown. Cooldown shared for both. (Source)

Hammer of the Righteous scaling
We realized that the AE portion of Hammer of the Righteous didn't scale with Vengeance. While it's true that Prot paladins gain some spell power, they get it from Strength, not the attack power provided by Vengeance. We changed Hammer to scale with attack power, which should mean it hits harder with Vengeance. That will provide some of the damage boost you are looking for. (Source)
This article was originally published in forum thread: Raid Testing, Guild Cap, Goblin Easter Egg, Blue Posts started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 175 Comments
  1. Rukari's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by sephrael View Post
    You can engage in aerial dogfights with gnome-engineered planes as a daily quest in Icecrown. Also, the box doesn't SAY it is Wintergrasp - just because it resembles the area, does not mean that it IS Wintergrasp and that flying mount combat is promised in Wintergrasp. Your complaint is not dissimilar from complaining about how this commercial isn't factual:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCwn1NTK-50

    What?! My gaming experience with this product was NOTHING like it was advertised! WTF false advertising, so illegal!
    I don't recall making any claims of false advertising. The person said it wasn't on the box, I'm just saying it is.

    And no, it's doesn't resemble the area, it is Wintergrasp. It is obviously Wintergrasp and anyone who has been in it would immediately recognize it.
    http://www.wintergrasp.com/images/db...p-fortress.jpg
    If you circled to your right and moved down you'd have the same view as shown in the box art.

    And as I recall, the daily quest doesn't involve dog-fighting at all. Dog-fighting is a form of aerial combat, but not all aerial combat is dog-fighting.

    The image and caption, to anyone who kept up on WotLK's beta features, clearly represents the cut feature of the ability to use aircraft in Wintergrasp and dog-fight with other players.
  1. cysf66's Avatar
    How does raids testing work in betas? Will someone who just got a beta invite will be able start a premade character thats geared for raids?
  1. Quackie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rukari View Post
    I don't recall making any claims of false advertising. The person said it wasn't on the box, I'm just saying it is.

    And no, it's doesn't resemble the area, it is Wintergrasp. It is obviously Wintergrasp and anyone who has been in it would immediately recognize it.
    http://www.wintergrasp.com/images/db...p-fortress.jpg
    If you circled to your right and moved down you'd have the same view as shown in the box art.

    And as I recall, the daily quest doesn't involve dog-fighting at all. Dog-fighting is a form of aerial combat, but not all aerial combat is dog-fighting.

    The image and caption, to anyone who kept up on WotLK's beta features, clearly represents the cut feature of the ability to use aircraft in Wintergrasp and dog-fight with other players.
    OMG please stop.
  1. Bair's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by nsctpsm View Post
    Exactly my point... it's one frame. An easter egg, by definition, isn't usually something that people could miss that easily.
    It was found by my guildmate. He watched a video when suddenly and lucky it started buffering exactly at this frame

    sorry for possible bad spelling, i'm from russia
  1. Quackie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiro View Post
    Please, spare us, we know what they meant by that on the box, and that's the flying vehicles that were in wintergrasp for a period of time but then they later removed them because they didn't know how to code them properly.
    Exactly. For whatever reason they decided to not do it. Who cares move on.

    ---------- Post added 2010-10-05 at 05:12 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Deos View Post
    Yeepee.... another wall of paladin crap..

    Oh how I wish my clas, the druid, would have so much blue attention every day, during all those months of beta, discussing all the little details about all the aspects of the class which is currently half-broken, with feral missing major game mechanic fixes not to say enjoyable fluff and flavor -_-
    Yes, that would be nice. Or at least a paragraph long explanation as to why they want to take away everything they gave Moonkins.

    ---------- Post added 2010-10-05 at 05:16 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Scythax View Post
    AIE will sure be pissed off about this. Looking forward to hearing THAT particular podcast episode with great interest....
    I'm sure Blizzard is worried.

    Normally the larger guilds are the bad guilds. This is a good thing though because the more bads piled up in one guild means less guild spam (Friendly/Tabard/Gbank!) in trade chat. It gets so annoying that every little scrubby on every server needs to make their own scrubby guild to recruit other scrubby players to go wipe on stuff with. Keep them all in one place and cut down on the excess of guilds IMO.

    The guilds that actually accomplish stuff in this game usually keep their numbers to a minimum of active raiders with maybe a few alts or friends, so the cap will never hurt the productive player base.
  1. Chromatic19's Avatar
    This Easter egg was found out by the person absolutely casually when looked this video. He looked it on work, where speed of the Internet not big and at it freezed the image just on this place. It is possible to tell that to it has very much carried

    And sorry for english.
  1. Guar's Avatar
    that worgen's screen shot makes me wanna role one so bad now.... and I'm horde... btw still no desire to role a goblin... its the horde's gnome... that's a negative ghostrider!
  1. Kuja's Avatar
    Still waiting for altered leveling curves in 70-80 -.- Pain in the ass for multiple characters.
  1. He-man's Avatar
    Down time just got delayed by 2hours.. right at the end of when it was due..

    its totally patch day! 4.0 babyy
  1. swissaccount's Avatar
    can they just delete paladins? they'll never be able to make those whiners happy
  1. Bullettime's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by He-man View Post
    Down time just got delayed by 2hours.. right at the end of when it was due..

    its totally patch day! 4.0 babyy
    We can hope. No one knows for sure cept blizzard. Only thing though is now we have an extended maintenance and the fact that the final bit of patch data would come through the streaming client which will not be available until the servers come back online.
  1. Argroth's Avatar
    New Dances/Dance Studio is a lie. Plain and simple it's vaporware no matter how many times they say "we havn't forgotten" or "It's still being worked on". As long as it's non-existent blizzard remains a lying bad software developer.

    There is NO WAY it can be as hard as they, or anyone else, says it is to be delayed this much. basically all I expect is just to choose between a few dances (I wouldn't even mind if they were the exact same dances as other races + a few extra) but the way they whine and go on about "oh it's never quite right" you would think they are trying to make it so specific that you make a second by second dance from scratch where everything can be moved down to the fingers. No one is expecting "Dancing with the WoW Stars:The Video game" some people just hate their stupid (Napoleon Dynamite) race's dance and would like ANYTHING else.
  1. rhaezorblue's Avatar
    Here's hoping for the patch
  1. mmoc25376db926's Avatar
    unforeseen circumstances = Patch 4.0.1 much?
  1. Shp's Avatar
    hope!
  1. iamkmk's Avatar
    Blue confirms 4.0.1 is not coming out today in customer service forum.
  1. Quackie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Argroth View Post
    New Dances/Dance Studio is a lie. Plain and simple it's vaporware no matter how many times they say "we havn't forgotten" or "It's still being worked on". As long as it's non-existent blizzard remains a lying bad software developer.

    There is NO WAY it can be as hard as they, or anyone else, says it is to be delayed this much. basically all I expect is just to choose between a few dances (I wouldn't even mind if they were the exact same dances as other races + a few extra) but the way they whine and go on about "oh it's never quite right" you would think they are trying to make it so specific that you make a second by second dance from scratch where everything can be moved down to the fingers. No one is expecting "Dancing with the WoW Stars:The Video game" some people just hate their stupid (Napoleon Dynamite) race's dance and would like ANYTHING else.
    I just want my Tauren to be able to do the heavy metal Undead Male dance. Then I'll be happy and never complain again. lol
  1. Jokerjesus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Argroth View Post
    New Dances/Dance Studio is a lie. Plain and simple it's vaporware no matter how many times they say "we havn't forgotten" or "It's still being worked on". As long as it's non-existent blizzard remains a lying bad software developer.

    There is NO WAY it can be as hard as they, or anyone else, says it is to be delayed this much. basically all I expect is just to choose between a few dances (I wouldn't even mind if they were the exact same dances as other races + a few extra) but the way they whine and go on about "oh it's never quite right" you would think they are trying to make it so specific that you make a second by second dance from scratch where everything can be moved down to the fingers. No one is expecting "Dancing with the WoW Stars:The Video game" some people just hate their stupid (Napoleon Dynamite) race's dance and would like ANYTHING else.
    Your a ranting fool, you want dances or do you want expansions with important content that will keep you engaged? They don't have that many people working on the game, its not fucking NASA they don't have thousands of people working on a project.
  1. manniefaces's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Argroth View Post
    New Dances/Dance Studio is a lie. Plain and simple it's vaporware no matter how many times they say "we havn't forgotten" or "It's still being worked on". As long as it's non-existent blizzard remains a lying bad software developer.

    There is NO WAY it can be as hard as they, or anyone else, says it is to be delayed this much. basically all I expect is just to choose between a few dances (I wouldn't even mind if they were the exact same dances as other races + a few extra) but the way they whine and go on about "oh it's never quite right" you would think they are trying to make it so specific that you make a second by second dance from scratch where everything can be moved down to the fingers. No one is expecting "Dancing with the WoW Stars:The Video game" some people just hate their stupid (Napoleon Dynamite) race's dance and would like ANYTHING else.
    Yet here you are. Still standing, still strong, still "RIGHT" as rain.
  1. linadianna's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bloodwine77 View Post
    I can't bring myself to have any sympathy for the mega-guilds with thousands of members.

    Why would anyone want to join a guild of that size? What could they possibly offer?

    I have never been in a guild of the magnitude of AIE that has almost 6800 members, but could you even see the entire roster in your UI? Would guild chat stream so quickly that it'd appear to be the matrix?
    Taint on Proudmoore is one of these guilds. They offer a place for GLBT players to get away from discrimination based on sexual orientation, among other things. I am a proud member of this guild and love the general hubub of being in such a large community. And no, guild chat does not resemble the matrix. It does scroll by rather quickly at times, but it has never been an issue as far as I know.

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