Cataclysm Beta - Build 13241 (Updated)

Wow....when i thought i saw it all. 5 years of playing WoW and I've never seen so many nerfs to classes as i have seen today, even classes that are meh already are getting the shaft.

Originally Posted by nosoup4crr

I read it as when they're consumed.

Well then would be weird. That would mean we can leave MB completely out once again.

Getting just a tad annoyed at the discipline changes going back and forth like this. Like they just don´t have a clue what to do with it.

Originally Posted by Strafer

Codename: Nerfbat would be a better name ^^

As long as these changes are for 85 balance, cause if any of them went live right now it'd crap all over level 80 balance. that much nerfing to those classes would prett much mean all those nerfed classes would hardly be competetive at all, except maybe the tanks

Originally Posted by Avengerx

I guess we will really get our asses handed to us by the elemental spawns in the pre cata event .)

Erm a question,if its true that these are the base values and these will scale by level up to lvl 85, does that mean that currently at lvl 80 we will still see a huge dps loss because abilities havent reached their "peak" values?

Blue quote said it would effect 1-79, so no. Blizzard found a way to balance low levels without it effecting 80-85. Amazing is it not? Sad part is a lot of these people don't understand that and will soon start screaming that the end of the world is upon us.

Might be a good idea to include the blue post announcing these changes as being for 1-79 at the top of the post, as to avoid unnecessary flipping out.

Originally Posted by Ramis

That said, we will be making several balancing changes in patch 4.0.3a based on what we've been seeing since patch 4.0.1. With regard to lower level players, we plan to adjust damage and healing for all classes from levels 1-79. The base points of almost all spells and abilities are being reduced in order to bring combat times at low levels to a more acceptable length. Some specific spells/abilities are being reduced in damage even more, and in the case of most abilities that deal weapon damage, we're going to make the damage percent scale with level. So as an example, Sinister Strike is currently planned to do 42% weapon damage at level 1, with the percentage of weapon damage rising per level up to its maximum potential at 80.

Guys, read it. Generally they changed it to spells/skills (especially in melee case) scale with level. So for example Sinister Strike at 1 level may hit for 42% weapon dmg, at lets say 48 will hit for 80% and max weapon dmg (was 150? or sth like that?) at the highest level.

Damn it, people. There have been three responses already mentioning that these nerfs are for level 1 characters, NOT higher level characters. The world is not ending.

I hope this build fixes that quest in Hyjal, that bear throwing quest. :P

My god..... My warlock just got crited for over 9000 with the nerf bat.

Haha My reaction was to just stare at the screen like I had a stroke.

Atleast melee got nerfed a little again, their previous buff was too much. And as much as I QQ to myself about the caster nerfs, we had it coming aswell I guess.

"Kill Shot" renamed to "Tickle Them With A Feather Until They Die Laughing Shot".

Originally Posted by Xathian

Remember when Ghostcrawler posted saying they wanted to increase PvP longevity 2 days ago?

This is it, boys. They just wrecked the shit out of PvE to make PvP fights last longer.

You mean they made pve harder for EVERYONE now? Good, keep on doing that

Hey everyone, don't forget this is a BETA build and not a live patch or PTR build. These are changes for level 85 and not for the current 4.0.1 game at level 80. I see so many people here complaining about changes as if they are directed towards the live level 80 game. Think people.

Originally Posted by TylerN

Haha My reaction was to just stare at the screen like I had a stroke.

Atleast melee got nerfed a little again, their previous buff was too much. And as much as I QQ to myself about the caster nerfs, we had it coming aswell I guess.

in what world does 50% and greater reductions in output constitute "a little" to you. Go total half of someones car and try to walk away saying It's just a little damaged.

Originally Posted by Rifee

You mean they made pve harder for EVERYONE now? Good, keep on doing that

Making characters weaker does not necessarily make the game harder. Making the game harder would make the game harder though

Originally Posted by Niroshi

Might be a good idea to include the blue post announcing these changes as being for 1-79 at the top of the post, as to avoid unnecessary flipping out.

Boub wouldn't do that, he secretly loves to read QQ posts about how blizzard screwed our classes over. He is reading all these posts right now, laughing and feeding on our tears. Only when he is full will he put the blue post in.

Originally Posted by Noturno

That warlocks that's just joke right? They should just write :" Damage of Warlocks reduced by 12%". Meaningless blizzard meaningless. That's just like, nerf everyone because they're gonna "overdmg" our fights.

oh man...please dude, come on...
Warlocks were Op, no doubt, and they got some nerfs.
BUT!
See how it says "BASE DMG". That's not nearly 15% dmg nerf, more like 3% or something, perhaps, no biggie.

WTF LOCK NERFS 12% to everything :O

wow you've got to be kidding me. blizzard loves doing the exact opposite of what they promise, putting rogue damage back to being purely from auto attacks and poisons. ytf are rogues even getting nerfed in the first place they weren't doing significantly higher dps than other classes.

Kill Shot renamed to "Tickle Shot"

Originally Posted by Khallynos

@Razac

Have you seen rogues? My argument for the worst class in the game. At least they buffed bandits guile and redirect. =)

Rogues? Worst class? I have a friend who can do 16k single target in most bosses in ICC25 easily. 23k on Saurfang, since the patch.