Updated Combat Resurrection Design, WoW Community Site

Updated Combat Resurrection Design
Originally Posted by Zarhym (Blue Tracker)
The design for combat resurrection effects has changed a good deal for Cataclysm, and we want to make sure players are clear on how spells like Rebirth and Create Soulstone now function. Rebirth has a 10-minute cooldown and Create Soulstone has a 15-minute cooldown. On raid boss encounters, you can only use one of these combat resurrection spells (so one Rebirth or one Soulstone) per attempt for 10-player raids. For 25-player raids you can use three forms of combat resurrection per raid boss attempt (so three of any combination of Rebirth and Soulstone). The count is incremented as soon as a player accepts a resurrection, so one can always choose not to accept if he or she wants someone else to get the resurrection instead. There is no equivalent of the Sated debuff (which tracks Bloodlust/Heroism usage), but you will get an error message if you try to resurrect too many players, and we might add tracking to our raid interface if there is demand for it. Outside of raid content, you can use as many battle resurrections as you have available.

For those of you currently participating in the World of Warcraft: Cataclysm beta test, please note that this functionality may not be fully implemented as of yet. If you notice combat resurrections are not currently functioning as explained here, this is just a heads-up about the updated design intent behind them.

Unless Soulstone is being changed, why does the harder to use combat rez (that being Soulstone, since you have to predict ahead of time who to Soulstone) have the longer cooldown?
One thing we're considering with Soulstone is making it possible, in addition to its current functionality, to be cast on a dead player to give them the option of joining the living again.

New Community Site Live Preview
Looks like we won't be the only one with a new design this week. The new community site is live and is very similar to the one launched with Starcraft 2.
Originally Posted by Zarhym (Blue Tracker)
Many exciting changes are coming to World of Warcraft with the upcoming Cataclysm expansion, both in-game and out. We're excited to offer you an early look at the new World of Warcraft community site, which will soon become the prime gathering spot and source of information for players on the web. You can read more about the transition from our existing website to the new one in our original announcement: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...87366608&sid=1

As you’re exploring your future home, keep in mind that this is a live preview, and not all of the new features are ready quite yet. We want your feedback about the look and feel of the new site, so while you're browsing, we encourage you to submit bug reports and make feature requests -- let your voice be heard. Go ahead. Check it out!

New World of Warcraft Community Site: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/

Website Bug Reports: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/1025938/

Website Feature Requests: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/1025939/






Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
5 Tanks on Halfus Wyrmbreaker
We have a fix going in for this in the next beta build. Should no longer be possible to do this without inflicting terrible, terrible damage and wiping. (Source)

Paladin (Forums / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Guarded by the Light
We changed rank 1 of Guarded by the Light to provide the Holy Shield functionality and buff Word of Glory a little bit. Rank 2 provides the overheal shield functionality and buffs Word of Glory a bit more. (Source)
This article was originally published in forum thread: Updated Combat Resurrection Design, WoW Community Site started by Boubouille View original post
Published on 2010-11-05 07:06 AM
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  1. Ryme's Avatar
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/404

    I enjoy their 404 error page
  1. Kittahsmash's Avatar
    At least now we get an explanation for the error messages when trying to battle res someone..
    However, it still doesn't explain why I was not able to cast Rebirth on someone in one of my guild's many wipes on H-LK... Reason I say it doesn't explain it? My battle res was the FIRST one of the entire raiding night, but I got the error message. Clearly some kinks still to be worked out on it
  1. mmocde4cab52d3's Avatar
    The new community site looks fantastic. I hope they will fill it with content in the future.
  1. Oberoth's Avatar
    Why does it feel like they are homogenizing all of the classes to the point of nothing. I mean the point of playing a druid healer was the Hots and Bres. The point of a Shammy was Chain heal and Ankh and totems. Pallys were hard hitting single target heals and plate. Priests were fast single heals and bubbles.

    They are getting to the point that they might as well just say screw it you pick you race and then choose Tank, melee, ranged DPS, or heals...

    Granted all of the classes mechanics are slightly different, but even with the differing mechanics it feels like they are pulling the uniqueness out of the classes.

    MEH maybe it is just me
  1. Ravenshaw's Avatar
    Just replace us.battle.net/wow/en/ with eu.battle.net/wow/en, it takes you to the EU site.
  1. Daxen's Avatar
    Even the red shirt guy got a little refference on the new site

    "WARCRAFT LORE
    What was the historical significance of the War of the Ancients? Why are the Alliance and Horde battling each other? Whatever happened to Falstad Wildhammer? Find out in this section."

    http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/6...fmwvo7qkef.jpg
  1. valiorik's Avatar
    I'll miss battle rezes.
    Sometimes we used up to 10 in one fight. Strategy like to kill person with Professor's plague and rez him was awesome. And that was a part of the game. Less possibilities = more common friendly.
  1. Lilija's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by skillol210 View Post
    Wait, so why isn't this available for EU too? The new forums i mean.
    So it isn't only me? I already thought I did sth wrong :P Keep getting "No game license was found. Please add one under your account."

    Btw, there seems to be and eu version as well but the forums don't work.
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/896511/ - no posts there unlike the us.
  1. Mangooz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenshaw View Post
    Just replace us.battle.net/wow/en/ with eu.battle.net/wow/en, it takes you to the EU site.
    Well, when you use it you get:
    Oops

    Something Is Broken

    You can blame Deathwing for this little mishap.
  1. Minifig's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Daxen View Post
    Even the red shirt guy got a little refference on the new site

    "WARCRAFT LORE
    What was the historical significance of the War of the Ancients? Why are the Alliance and Horde battling each other? Whatever happened to Falstad Wildhammer? Find out in this section."

    http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/6...fmwvo7qkef.jpg
    The dude is a freaking hero to all lore people, and I have to say, I love the new site. It's damn epic looking. :]
  1. Lilija's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenshaw View Post
    Just replace us.battle.net/wow/en/ with eu.battle.net/wow/en, it takes you to the EU site.
    Did it make the forums work?
  1. mmoc6cf872d270's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberoth View Post
    Why does it feel like they are homogenizing all of the classes to the point of nothing. I mean the point of playing a druid healer was the Hots and Bres. The point of a Shammy was Chain heal and Ankh and totems. Pallys were hard hitting single target heals and plate. Priests were fast single heals and bubbles.

    They are getting to the point that they might as well just say screw it you pick you race and then choose Tank, melee, ranged DPS, or heals...

    Granted all of the classes mechanics are slightly different, but even with the differing mechanics it feels like they are pulling the uniqueness out of the classes.

    MEH maybe it is just me
    I've been a bit worried about that too. Soon we might end up with the same abilities for every class: /cast "damage bolt", perfomrm "melee attack", /cast "heal spell" or /cast "threat ability"

    I'm not sure I like where this is going, wow is getting dumbed down enough as it is.
  1. Ravenshaw's Avatar
    Doesn't look like the EU forums are working, but the website itself is definitely up.

    And I've had the same issue with it not finding a game license.
  1. ZeroWashu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by walexia View Post
    I am trying to understand their changes to the battlerez system and will do my best to throw forth a good argument. I think this change caters more towards the extreme hard core raiders who would purposefully stack Brezzers to do certain encounters.This is counter to what blizz said about "bringin the player-not the class" But we all know hardcore raiders will do anything to down a boss easier and faster.
    So if a reg fight is actually requiring brez to get through it, i don't think we should nerf brez but rather examine what is causing this to be required in the fight.I mean if brez was that important they would be dished out to every healer like normal rez...THEN they would have cause for legitemate concern.
    Your on track in the first part, its too stop stacking the deck. If a fight requires a brez to get through it then the fight is not tuned properly. A brez should be for fixing screw ups, not a requirement to finish an encounter. Like, someone's computer freezing or such.
  1. Jonisawsom's Avatar
    The new site looks great and runs a lot smoother imo. Armory was really slow for me, but the new site is fast and the design improvements look great.

    Probably one of the reasons they are making the change with combat res is what many high end raiding guilds would do. They would have everyone in their guild level a warlock alt till they got soulstone so they could each have one for their H LK attempts etc.

    As far as homogenizing, a lot of it is needed. First off, 10 mans are supposed to be tuned for having every buff/debuff available, so now you aren't gimped because you don't have a Shaman and miss out on heroism etc. Same with combat res, now if your only Druid dies, the lock can (hopefully they change it to this) pick him back up. Making many of the buffs/debuffs overlap does not change how your class works, so stop crying that the sky is falling. A Mage is still nothing like a Warlock.

    The only 2 places things are much closer now is tanking and healing, and it is a good thing. Guilds can focus on player skill instead of what class they play (to an extent). You shouldn't be gimped because you don't have a holy pally or a disc priest because they should all be able to fill the same roles, yet their playstyle and flavor is different enough that you don't feel like it's playing the same class.
  1. mmocced9c7d33d's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferous View Post
    To let everyone know - If you were banned from the forums, you are no longer with the community site.
    The website? Who cares about that, what about the new forums??
  1. Kainan's Avatar
    New site design is nice. Can't wait till its fully implemented.
  1. mmoc6513cc48dc's Avatar
    can anyone confirm the ban on forums is gone :>?
  1. Xathian's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by shadowflay View Post
    can anyone confirm the ban on forums is gone :>?
    I doubt it'll stay this way, but I was banned in 2005 (For calling out Drysc on a rude comment towards a player asking about PTR availability) but I can currently post.

    I'm sure they will migrate the forum ban list over soon.
  1. Yagamoth's Avatar
    What's the matter about 5 Tanks on Wyrmbreaker?
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