Patch 4.0.6 Justice and Honor Trade Goods Vendors
Patch 4.0.6 introduces 2 new vendors to the game, the Honor and Justice Trade Goods vendors! They can be found next to the other Justice and Honor NPCs and will sell reagents for a very reasonable price.

Please note that some of these items are stacks of items so pay attention to the quantity on the icon! The Satchel of Freshly-Picked Herbs contains a selection of 20 random Cataclysm Herbs.



Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Lady Sinestra First Kill (and bugs)
I do think you have to take the tone of that post in the context in which it was written. Because Sinestra is a super-hardcore boss, they were pretty much the first ones to really push her mechanics to the limits. It's easy to see from their post that they were understandably frustrated. Not only were they trying to learn the mechanics and develop strategies, but we were watching closely, hotfixing several different issues as they stumbled across them. This meant they had to adapt to the changes we were making on the spot in addition to figuring out how to kill her -- and she's definitely no pushover.

We do wish it would have been a cleaner fight for them, but we really appreciate them pushing the limits of hardcore raiding, and testing us to design new and compelling challenges. (Source)

Dungeon Difficulty and Ghostcrawler's Blog - Wow, Dungeons are Hard!
I know you're probably frustrated by any number of issues Ghostcrawler tackled in his blog. We completely get that, which was the entire point of his post. We're not telling players it's our way or the highway. We're not burying our heads in the sand and letting you figure it out. He took a lot of his own time to try and provide some insight and positive reinforcement, admit some design mistakes we've made in Cataclysm, and let you know (most importantly) that we hear you.

We also have to recognize that there is a harsh debate within the community right now about the difficulty level. Players are flinging mud at one another and saying "learn to play", or "go grind in some other hardcore MMO". People aren't in agreement about these things and need to tone down the rhetoric (which Ghostcrawler addresses eloquently in his blog).

We're not going to join that debate, though we are players too. The best we can do right now -- as I think Ghostcrawler noted well -- is keep the dialog open and encourage constructive criticism, and even positive feedback. Hearing both what players like and don't like about select aspects of gameplay is useful to us.

The entire reason behind him writing that blog sprung from us sending him a particular thread (amongst many other we've been sending him since the launch of Cataclysm) that had him really concerned: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1660221627

He wants to see the tone of the debate changed so we can work together to make this a better game, so it's really unfortunate when you post as though he's throwing the naughty finger in your face. His post was not written from a place of hubris. Those who would take it that way probably just fundamentally disagree with the current design philosophy. But only two things are true in this case: 1) we will never please everyone with our design, and 2) we will never stop listening to our players.

In any event, I appreciate you taking the time to post. I just hope you can keep an open mind and a thoughtful dialog with us, as simply sharing with us how you perceive Ghostcrawler's attitude to be won't move game design anywhere. That's just the reality of it all. (Source)

Removing guild reputation requirements for officers
Sounds great, here's how that would work out: I have an awesome end-game progression guild. We're level 25. You give me 20k gold, I send you an invite and promote you to the highest officer rank. You buy whatever rewards you want, and then leave.

This is not the intent of the system. (Source)
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Comments 322 Comments
  1. mmoc587d6a7892's Avatar
    From what I've read before this (Blue posts et.c.), these items are merely for when you're capped and want something to spend points on. They're not meant to be a cost-effective way of getting profession materials.
  1. mistuhbull's Avatar
    Name's Blizzard, I hate enchanters.

    Given the materials being offered, all this will do is tank the market for enchanting mats. Enchanting is already stupid expensive to level, the addition of the DE button drove the prices down substantially and this will further tank the prices.
  1. implicationmmo's Avatar
    At last, we will be able to spend our JP
  1. Cybbelajlaj's Avatar
    So in Blizzards mind 2500 JP = 70-80g (20 embersilk cloth)?

    GJ.
  1. CynicalOtaku's Avatar
    I've been justice capped for two weeks now with nothing to spend it on, just from running guildies through randoms. This gives me something to burn justice on. I have no complaints about the prices at all.
  1. Termy's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Simca View Post
    The next content patch just brings Valor gear down to Justice. By the time that happens, everyone will already have all the Valor gear on their mains, so Justice will be useless again.

    I imagine this thread will be 20 pages of people going "WTF PRICES SO HIGH" even though they announced last week the prices would be very high.
    Indeed, as the price is there to avoid you wasting points beyond the cap, not to give you alternate farming methods.
  1. Razia's Avatar
    I find it odd that Blizzard has now set a more precise value on trade goods, this early into the expansion.
  1. aggression's Avatar
    Would been nice if you could buy Chaos Orbs, for 4k each or so. I mean, you need to do heroics to get them anyhow...either for JP or through drop.

    Prices are a bit lol, but I see the point. Better spend JP on anything than nothing at all, as in my case last 4 weeks.
  1. Jamminn's Avatar
    everyone is all about the JP just go Honor grind and save your JP for the next patch
  1. Sukauto's Avatar
    I think the price of the Embersilk is way too high, honestly that's about 10 minutes of grinding or so. (JP not Honor, Honor's not that bad). Doesnt look "so" bad tho.
  1. Omedon's Avatar
    HOLD THE LINE GC! DON'T CAVE! Rebalance, clarify, and tweak the instances, but keep the hope alive of heroics being their own worthwhile tier! We (mature players taking a long view to the product) believe in you!

    DON'T CAVE!
  1. Improvedlol's Avatar
    Can't believe some people still qq'ing about dungeons difficulty..
    Normal = easy
    Heroic = Medium-Hard
    And still Heroics are far from being too hard.. They felt perfectly tuned to me when I did them in greens. I completed every heroics by December 10th.
  1. PhailPally's Avatar
    Is this a joke? 1000 honor (takes a few hours) for 20 ores? worth around 60 gold... nice blizz.
  1. CynicalOtaku's Avatar
    I wouldn't say they've set a "precise value" on anything. It's like the experience from mining, herbing, and archeology: Nice, convenient, makes you feel like spending time doing those things isn't a complete waste, but not nearly as efficient for leveling as actually grinding quests and dungeons.

    This is far more efficient than purchasing an OH for the sake of vendoring it.
  1. Nitrax's Avatar
    Wait wait wait
    " Enchanting is already stupid expensive to level, the addition of the DE button drove the prices down substantially and this will further tank the prices."

    How can you say that Enchanting is stupid expensive to level, then say that the raw material prices are too low?

    I leveled up enchanting when it was STUPID expensive, and still got all my money back after one week of DE'ing heroics.

    Plus if you think that doing 4+ heroics for one shard is going to change any prices even in endgame, I think you are very wrong.
  1. aggression's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamminn View Post
    everyone is all about the JP just go Honor grind and save your JP for the next patch
    Not working that way. When new tier is added, your Justice Points will be replaced with your current VP. And your VP will be set to 0. So if you have 4000 JP and 1000 VP, you will now have 1000 JP and 0 VP.
  1. hefron's Avatar
    Guild reputation should be equal for everyone
  1. Dark-Sider's Avatar
    Hi,

    well the prices are really way too high. To farm a pile of cloth you need like 2-4 minutes. In order to farme those JPs you need more like 4-6 hours (!) worth of heroics.

    As an enchanter it probably better to buy those 900 JP blues and dissenchant them for a chance of an crystal. With the next tier, you could buy those epics and also diss. them.

    bye
    Darky
  1. dope_danny's Avatar
    that embersilk is a bloody ripoff. not even fanboy raging, ive maxed first aid already, that is like half a run of grim batols worth for 4 or 5 times the jp. thats an obscene rip-off. at least the other, especially the herbs or ore if you can prospect can make a profit on the AH but 2500 for 20 embersilk cloth? thats even a rip off for the tailors, even more so when they get the buff for more cloth to drop. bloody hell.
  1. Omedon's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by aggression View Post
    Not working that way. When new tier is added, your Justice Points will be replaced with your current VP. And your VP will be set to 0. So if you have 4000 JP and 1000 VP, you will now have 1000 JP and 0 VP.
    Um, source? that's new.

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