Is Patch 4.0.6 This Week?
I already answered that question on monday/sunday but people will ask anyway. No, the patch isn't this week.


Addon Review - OreCrusher (by chaud)
OreCrusher is an addon that helps Jewelcrafters determine the most profitable way to use ore. It is similar to the Shuffling Spreadsheet and has most of the features necessary from it.

After manually entering the price of a stack of Cataclysm Ore, it will give you the optimal route to profit. It looks at disenchanting the items that are crafted using uncommon gems, transmuting gems with Alchemy, and just selling the gems directly. You need either Auctionator or AuctionLite/Auctioneer/AuctionMaster to pull in the prices. Auctionator is recommended. If you are using Auctioneer, you can force the GetAuctionBuyout pricing method by using the toggle command /oc altbuyout.




The main screen (opened with /oc) requires you to input a price for each type of ore, and the number or stacks to use when calculating profit. Pressing Do It! will change the calculated values to the type of ore you have selected. Each of the uncommon and rare gems are listed with the expected amount of each gem and the total price for that many gems. A total is displayed at the bottom of the list for just selling the gems on the AH.

On the right hand side the total from selling enchanting materials gained through crafting items with uncommon gems and disenchanting them along with selling cut rare gems is shown. The third route involves transmuting the uncommon gems into rare gems with optional Transmute Mastery bonus. Rare cut profit is currently just done as an overall percentage rather than looking at the cuts you can craft and selecting the most profitable one. The maximum profit and route to get there is show at the right hand side on the bottom, along with the total cost of the ore.


The disenchant values screen shows the expected amount of enchanting materials and their total values as well as the enchanting route value of each uncommon gem used. An optional modifier allows you to increase the value of the materials further through scroll markup. Keep in mind that the gems used for the Jewelcrafting daily quest (Jasper, Nightstone, and Zephyrites) are often worth much more gold on the day of the quest due to the demand from lazy Jewelcrafters.

You can scale the windows with a slider under the Disenchanting Values window (it is not working perfectly yet) and mouse over each gem's name to see the value. Mousing over the total numbers on the right will give you a profit number for each option.

The addon does not take into account gem transmutes currently, according to the author this is a planned feature. Another possible feature would include looking at your Jewelcrafting skills and basing the rare cuts off of what you can actually cut. Head over the addon comments on Curse to suggest more features!


Nefarian 25 Heroic World 2nd Kill video by Method
Method released a video of their World 2nd kill of Nefarian today, since this is the hotfixed version of the encounter I assume that a lot of people will be interested in it.



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Comic - Skill vs. Gear
This comic from Nerf NOW!!! makes me happy. The forums are that way.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 4.0.6 not this week, OreCrusher, Nefarian Video, Comic started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 95 Comments
  1. hery's Avatar
    Inb4 6 weeks of enchanting mats flooded AH, thanks.
  1. zrankfappa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by F-Minus View Post
    Who would put rocks into sacks?
    you have to, kittens float.


    // i kid i kid
  1. usiris's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by hery View Post
    Inb4 6 weeks of enchanting mats flooded AH, thanks.
    brb selling gems to people who cant figure this stuff out for themselfs <_< >_>
  1. Zino's Avatar
    Gear > Skill but Gear + Skill > Gear and you get gear very easy so there is nothing unfair
  1. mmoc9b04eceb3f's Avatar
    Long time ago i heard a trance song in a boss kill video from some of the top guild Doesn't really like Paragon's music
  1. muto's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by invictusordead View Post
    Method > Paragon !!!! xploit free /bow
    Ya, because if Paragon had access to the correct version of the encounter they wouldn't have likely killed it first..........RIGHT............
    Paragon is either (A.) marginally better then other top guilds or (B.) puts more time into trying to accomplish world firsts. Either way, they still got the world first, and probably would have gotten it first on an unexploited version. Don't be a hater.
  1. sluggs's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Simca View Post
    Auctioneer is also working with the changes too.



    They stopped the Stolen Power buff from working Rip (dealing 4-5 million damage) and Bane of Doom (dealing around 1.5 million damage).
    However, it still works with things that hit fairly hard. Not 5 million, but xaar of Paragon was saying Sunfire still hits for 3.5 million.

    If Blizzard nerfed Bane of Doom, which hit for 1.5 million, and left Sunfire, which can potentially hit for 3.5 million, where is the logic in that?

    You can see in this video it is still working with multi-million damage Combustions. Combustion can't be done nearly as frequently as Rip, but still, I think this whole "Method first legit kill" business is just silly. Nobody can -really- say what the intended fight is (although I doubt this is it right now because it is changing again in Patch 4.0.6).
    I just blame blizzard for having these bugs in the game in the first place. most of their hardest hard mode bosses atramedes, nefarion, lady sinestra, and even cho gall had some serious bug with them they either made the encounter impossible, make it to easy and ignore certain mechanics, or do insane amounts of damage which isn't intended.

    Lady sinestra was truly the worst boss they designed and were pretty much doing beta testing on her with paragon. I understand if a boss encounter had a small bug or something but almost every hard mode boss has had an easy exploit to kill. Very disappointing.
  1. DrgnDancer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by sluggs View Post
    I just blame blizzard for having these bugs in the game in the first place. most of their hardest hard mode bosses atramedes, nefarion, lady sinestra, and even cho gall had some serious bug with them they either made the encounter impossible, make it to easy and ignore certain mechanics, or do insane amounts of damage which isn't intended.

    Lady sinestra was truly the worst boss they designed and were pretty much doing beta testing on her with paragon. I understand if a boss encounter had a small bug or something but almost every hard mode boss has had an easy exploit to kill. Very disappointing.
    I think the big problem with a lot of these really high end encounters (especially Sinestra which didn't beta at all) is that Blizz lacks internal resources to test them. It's commonly known that a lot of the dev and test teams are players, but I doubt any of them are Paragon level players. When you're dealing with heroic 5 mans, normal mode raids, even some hard modes I'm sure it's easy enough to just give the test team "appropriate" gear and let them play test before releasing even to beta or PTR. When you're dealing with cutting edge content that will take even the best guild a week or two to down, how do you play test it without people of that caliber?

    It's not like they can keep a 25 person team of Paragon level raiders on staff just to play test hard modes.
  1. Noomz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zwai View Post
    Boubouille seems to hate when people have a slight advantage simply because they took the time to research a few things like making money off the AH instead of farming or hunting rare mobs. Otherwise he wouldn't go out of his way to spoon-feed all the lesser known nooks and crannies of WoW to tens of thousands of people regularly. -.-

    Edit: That and the things the guy above me said. Now we'll have to deal with an influx of new "AH players" for 4-8 weeks, which is quite annoying, since they don't know the first thing about trading to begin with.


    Aaaw, you're sad you don't get to keep your monopoly?
  1. fangless's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kritisch View Post
    No, i dont think so. Paragon did kill him 20 days before Method with less good Equip essecially for healers and tanks. So they killed a totally overtuned Boss for their gear with clever use of the Encounter mechanics. Not even Blizzard saw that coming.

    That was impressive.
    Method's P3 lasted something like 5-6 minutes. That's pretty much insane levels of kiting/healing required...

    Paragon's P3 lasted half of that.


    THAT'S how much of a difference in DPS we're looking at, after the fix. Considering NO ONE ELSE has killed heroic Nef since release, I'd say Paragon's strategy basically neutered the fight.

    They'll still haven't killed him again either, and who knows how many resets it'll be before anyone else kills him. Right now, I'd say Method has the most illustrious kill for this raid tier, considering only one other heroic Nef kill has been recorded, and it used a shortcut.
  1. Uzkin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by fangless View Post
    Method's P3 lasted something like 5-6 minutes. That's pretty much insane levels of kiting/healing required...

    Paragon's P3 lasted half of that.


    THAT'S how much of a difference in DPS we're looking at, after the fix. Considering NO ONE ELSE has killed heroic Nef since release, I'd say Paragon's strategy basically neutered the fight.

    They'll still haven't killed him again either, and who knows how many resets it'll be before anyone else kills him. Right now, I'd say Method has the most illustrious kill for this raid tier, considering only one other heroic Nef kill has been recorded, and it used a shortcut.
    Wrong. Paragon has killed heroic Nefarian again this reset.
  1. tckdaboss's Avatar
    gear>skill is not even a valid argument for a PvE nerds fail ratings anymore. thanks for homogenizing pvp gear blizz so nerds can no longer QQ. kthxbai
  1. Anon212's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by molinator View Post
    If you blame your PvP losses on gear, you can never improve - you'll be blind to your mistakes.
    Yeah okay, JUST NOW in the 76-79 bracket, playing as a 78 Subtelty rogue I am SO OFTEN up against people who seriously spend thousands of gold on 79 greens to be incredibly OP for one level, and in this particular case I Premediate, Shadowstep, Garrote another such rogue in all Cataclysm gear, 5-point Rupture her, Shadow dance to Cheap Shot and Ambush, and as soon as shes out of the stun know what happens? Lol 8k Hemorrhage Lol 8k Hemorrhage Lol 8k Hemorrhage dead. It is such bullshit.

    I don't see why Blizz allows, hell, -favors- such poor sportsmanship like twinking. Why not give a level cap on gems, why not just bring ALL of the gear closer together to avoid people having 14k health and 34k health within FIVE LEVELS OF EACHOTHER? And seriously, an yone who reads this that ever twinked in their life, go impale yourself on the straw end of a broom you cheating overcompensating worthless ghost of a man.
  1. snodeath's Avatar
    If you are good at making gold you will still make gold. Trust me. At least I don't have to use a spreadsheet anymore...
  1. mmoc2f0222e775's Avatar
    How do you know the patch isn't this week?
  1. Karot's Avatar
    Crap...the secret's out on the addon now. Thanks, Bibi. :P

    I guess this means people will stop thinking that farming is "easier", so now I'll have no one to buy cheap ore from. lol
  1. freelapdance's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by fangless View Post
    They'll still haven't killed him again either, and who knows how many resets it'll be before anyone else kills him. Right now, I'd say Method has the most illustrious kill for this raid tier, considering only one other heroic Nef kill has been recorded, and it used a shortcut.
    Actually both Paragon and Ensidia killed Nef heroic this reset.
  1. Mexa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Xexer View Post
    So you're saying gear is more important?
    He says "the forums are that way" cus there are so many ppl who start threads about everything they think is unfair
  1. jonyx's Avatar
    Bah...also anticipating patch, but must practice patience. Really just need incentive to bother doing the gear/dungeon grind with all my other bazillion alts. Ah well. :<
  1. Kiro's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kritisch View Post
    No, i dont think so. Paragon did kill him 20 days before Method with less good Equip essecially for healers and tanks. So they killed a totally overtuned Boss for their gear with clever use of the Encounter mechanics. Not even Blizzard saw that coming.

    That was impressive.
    I usually don't comment on this stuff, but the cheerleading here is ridiculous. They used an EXPLOIT, not an "encounter mechanic", and certainly not a "well thought out strategy". They cheesed it, period. But in the end who cares who got the first kill to be honest? Of course a guild of sponsored gamers will do it before those who don't have the amount of time needed to sink into it to get it done quickly.

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