Zul'aman and Zul'gurub Loot Table
The latest PTR build added items to Zul'gurub and Zul'aman and we now have a pretty good idea of what will drop there.

  • No screenshots for the moment, models aren't implemented yet.
  • The list might not be final, especially because it's incredibly annoying to scan for items in the current PTR build.

Level Type Spec Slot Name
353AxeMeleeTwo-HandReforged Trollbane
353BackMeleeBackHex Lord's Bloody Cloak
353BackPhysical DPSBackRecovered Cloak of Frostheim
353BackSpell DPSBackHakkari Loa Drape
353BowPhysical DPSRangedMandokir's Tribute
353BowTankRangedVoodoo Hunting Bow
353ClothSpell DPSFeetBoots of the Ursine
353ClothSpell DPSLegsSerpentine Leggings
353ClothSpell DPSShoulderJan'alai's Spaulders
353ClothSpell DPSWaistSash of Anguish
353ClothSpell DPSWristWristwraps of Madness
353ClothSpell SpiritChestHexing Robes
353ClothSpell SpiritHeadThe Hexxer's Mask
353ClothSpell SpiritShoulderClaw-Fringe Mantle
353ClothSpell SpiritWristWristwraps of Departed Spirits
353DaggerPhysical DPSOne-HandTwinblade of the Hakkari
353DaggerSpell DPSOne-HandVoodoo Hexblade
353FingerMeleeFingerRing of the Numberless Brood
353FingerPhysical DPSFingerArlokk's Signet
353FingerSpell DPSFingerShimmerclaw Band
353FingerSpell DPSFingerSignet of Venoxis
353FingerSpell SpiritFingerSoul Drain Signet
353Fist Weap.Physical DPSOne-HandThekal's Claws
353Fist Weap.Physical DPSOne-HandArlokk's Claws
353LeatherMeleeFeetFasc's Preserved Sandals
353LeatherMeleeHeadThe Savager's Mask
353LeatherMeleeLegsLeggings of Dancing Blades
353LeatherMeleeWristAmani'shi Belt
353LeatherPhysical DPSChestShadowtooth Trollskin Breastplate
353LeatherPhysical DPSWaistBelt of Slithering Serpents
353LeatherSpell DPSChestVestments of the Soulflayer
353LeatherSpell DPSFeetTwo-Toed Moccasins
353LeatherSpell SpiritLegsLeggings of the Pride
353LeatherSpell SpiritWristArmbands of the Bear Spirit
353MaceMeleeTwo-HandJeklik's Smasher
353MaceSpell SpiritOne-HandAmani Scepter of Rites
353MailPhysical DPSHandsHandguards of the Tormented
353MailPhysical DPSHeadHeaddress of Sharpened Vision
353MailPhysical DPSLegsZombie Walker Legguards
353MailPhysical DPSShoulderPauldrons of Nalorakk
353MailPhysical DPSWaistWaistband of Hexes
353MailSpell DPSWaistHawkscale Waistguard
353MailSpell DPSWristShadowmender Wristguards
353MailSpell SpiritChestBreastplate of Serenity
353MailSpell SpiritHandsMojo-Mender's Gloves
353MailSpell SpiritLegsKilt of Forgotten Rites
353MailSpell SpiritShoulderSpiritbinder Spaulders
353NeckPhysical DPSNeckAmulet of the Watcher
353NeckTankNeckAmulet of Protection
353Off-HandSpell SpiritOff-HandLost Bag of Whammies
353PlateMeleeChestChestplate of Hubris
353PlateMeleeFeetSkullcrusher Warboots
353PlateMeleeHandsPlunderer's Gauntlets
353PlateMeleeHeadRoaring Mask of Bethekk
353PlateMeleeLegsJungle Striders
353PlateMeleeWristDeathcharged Wristguards
353PlateSpell SpiritChestTroll Skull Chestplate
353PlateSpell SpiritFeetBoots of Bad Mojo
353PlateSpell SpiritHeadPlumed Medicine Helm
353PlateTankChestBattleplate of the Amani Empire
353PlateTankHandsBone Plate Handguards
353PlateTankHeadSpiritshield Mask
353PlateTankShoulderPauldrons of Sacrifice
353PlateTankWaistCoils of Hate
353ShieldSpell DPSOff HandZulian Ward
353ShieldTankOff HandShield of the Blood God
353StaffSpell DPSTwo-HandLegacy of Arlokk
353SwordMeleeOne-HandZulian Slasher
353SwordMeleeOne-HandRenataki's Soul Slicer
353SwordTankOne-HandBloodlord's Protector
353WandSpell DPSRangedTouch of Discord
353WandSpell DPSRangedZulian Voodoo Stick
70MountAmani Battle Bear

Blue Posts
I guess we finally know why Ghostcrawler is gone from the forums: we can blame the europeans (but not me) and the whiners who don't take the time of reading posts when they come from a blue tracker. There, that's why the daily classes update are gone, but now we have super fast updates to patches hotfixes!
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Why Ghostcrawler stopped posting on official forums
These forums have always been about players talking to players. We don't want to foster the expectation that it's going to get a blue response if someone tries hard enough (lol I'm replying to a thread calling for a blue). While GC added a lot to these forums (and I say 'these forums' because he only posted in the North America forums) we think we can reach more players, particularly those in other regions, more directly through the blogs, or concerted Q&A's. Blogs also tend to be a better medium for getting the message out there loud and clear, but does have downsides that it removes the conversation that we know is appreciated quite a bit.

While forum posts do lend themselves to that conversational approach, they actually have a lot of downsides to them from our perspective of attempting to get clear and clean information to the players. They aren't very visible is really the first and maybe biggest problem. You can liken forum posts and the information given in them to some of the displeasure surrounding how hotfixes are communicated. I may reply to a thread 20 times and in my #13 reply I say something really important regarding class balance. Who is going to see that? How quickly will that knowledge actually permeate? Will the message be kept clear? Will my clarification in post #17 that explains what people are misunderstanding in #13 be seen by everyone that read #13? People tend not to read past the first blue post in a thread, or skip around and don't read them all, so if you have a correction/addendum to the first post, or just expound upon a thought, it's generally lost on the majority of readers. Blue trackers can help with this, but we're generally not having to explain that "post #13 wasn't the end of the thought and it's being taken out of context" to people who just go to blue trackers. Forum posts also tend to be fairly quickly written by one of us without much in the way of peer-review, and anything written off-the-cuff like a reply to a thread can tend to be more precarious than a more substantive outlet that has an official process of review and correction before its posted (like the blogs). Much to the dismay of many forum goers I'm sure, there's just an infinitely smaller chance we'll say something stupid or mess up in a fully published blog post.

As with anything we do, we never believe we're perfect. There's always room to improve. The blogs may not be the best outlet but we're continually working to improve upon the content we're delivering, and have some pretty exciting stuff planned. We're also working to make the comment system for the blogs a bit more like the forums so conversation can be held there more easily, as well. Of course you've no doubt see we're running a recurring global Ask the Devs Q&A. It's one way where we're hoping to fill that gap of direct developer interaction that the blogs probably just can't hit. We think the Q&A's are going to be extremely popular and fill a big part of what made GC's interactions on here so useful. And we’re going to continue collecting feedback and posting when appropriate, but we'll also be trying to come up with additional ways to facilitate the communication between the developers and players. (Source)

Recycling content in future patches
There definitely is not a hard and fast rule about updating existing content. If we feel revamping existing content makes sense in the current state of the game and lore -- and we think it will be fun -- sure, it's a possibility. You definitely shouldn't expect this every patch though. In the grand scheme of World of Warcraft's history, we've reintroduced very little existing content per patch and expansion. (Source)

And let's get real - we know why you're recycling old content. With the next Starcraft 2 expansion, Diablo 3, and an "unannounced MMO" all in production, I'm guessing the art team has its hands full. Recycling old content is an easy way to create a "new" instance with old art assets.
There isn't a singular Blizzard Entertainment art team. Each franchise has its own art department. We don't just pull resources from one project to give more attention to another in the sense you're suggesting. This is why we have multiple development teams (which include art teams for each) and can work on multiple franchises simultaneously. (Source)

That wasn't at all the context of the post to which I was responded. That player was suggesting that a singular art team directs their attention away from WoW to work on art for our other games. That's not true.

Now, if an individual person does move onto a new project, their position is filled. Therefore, the resources are still there (which is why I said "in the sense you're suggesting"). This is how career advancement works at any company. How else do you account for a company's growth? You bring in new talent (or move them up from within the company) and train them under the current folks so they can eventually fill the vacancy.

This talk about losing WoW developers, or that WoW is left to a "B team" is getting tiresome. There is no finite pool of talent and we have every intention of making sure WoW development remains very strong.

All of this is practically besides the point anyway. All you've been told is some talented people who helped build WoW into what it is today have moved over to another project to help bring it to fruition. You don't know who those people are, what positions they held on the WoW team, or how many of them have moved onto other projects. Most of them, in fact, are programmers working to develop the systems and tech for a new project. And the programmers WoW has now are amazing. They've taken the original systems and improved upon them many times over.

Just as an example, think back to how slowly UI improvements would be implemented in vanilla and TBC. Now there are scores of great UI improvements nearly every patch. That team is incredible and very experienced. Just the same, the class design team has hardly changed in years, save for a couple of additions (read: not subtractions).

Every department at Blizzard has expanded immensely over the years to accommodate the growing playerbase, as well as our ambitions for the future of the company. You can look at our job opportunities page just to get an example for the talent search we have constantly going on.

Bringing in new talent and growing the company from within is far from a bad thing. It's a great thing and has allowed us to develop several projects simultaneously without short-changing any of them. Anyone who says otherwise is working on an incredible amount of speculation and assumptions.

And even still, the WoW development leadership remains largely unchanged. Every time I stop by to chat with these people -- the same people I've been interacting with for years now -- I'm inspired by their creativity, their talent, and their dedication to making this game mega-awesomesauce. (Source)

Ragnaros Model
The problem is that you have no context or perspective on the model you've seen a static image of.

  • 1) Standing next to the full-sized, animated model will give you a very different perspective when you're looking up from his toenail
  • 2) Knowing that he will only come out of his lava pool to reveal his full figure in a Heroic-only phase of the fight will give you a bit more context

He's not just going to be running around the moment every raid reaches him.

I don’t think a lot of you understand; perspective is a large part of art design. The designers probably designed the model looking upwards from his feet. I bet you Rags’ll look epic when you see him in person
This is sort of what I was getting at with my first point. The perspective is completely different when a player character is standing near him. The proportions were designed with that in mind, which is why the screenshot of the model really doesn't do Ragnaros justice at all. (Source)
This article was originally published in forum thread: Zul'gurub and Zul'aman Loot List, Blue Posts started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 246 Comments
  1. Necrotica's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondTear View Post
    Can we get a screen of Rag from the "proper" perspective, Bibi?
    I found a screenshot of what it might look like:

  1. Divinelolz's Avatar
    Waaaah Waaaaah waaaaah theres no pleasing this snot nosed 12 year old community
  1. HikariOblivion's Avatar
    Jin'do's Verdict is absent from this list. Yay, a second Hunter/Druid two-hander!
  1. Baikalsan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinelolz View Post
    Waaaah Waaaaah waaaaah theres no pleasing this snot nosed 12 year old community
    "Sure lets remove recup so that EVERYONE can kill a rogue in seconds after they break stealth and stuns wear off"

    Thread: Recuperate..
    by Divinelolz

    "I guess blizzard felt like oh well no ones gonna be playing a paladin next season anyway

    Results 1 to 3 of 3"

    Thread: Season 10 Armor Models, Art Gallery Update, Comics
    by Divinelolz
  1. iorcedurmother's Avatar
    UMm, they set up this gear orry horribly, what is with every leather physical piece having expertise? It seems the only set that getting all the gear would be good for is the tank sets
  1. Divinelolz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Baikalsan View Post
    "Sure lets remove recup so that EVERYONE can kill a rogue in seconds after they break stealth and stuns wear off"

    Thread: Recuperate..
    by Divinelolz

    "I guess blizzard felt like oh well no ones gonna be playing a paladin next season anyway

    Results 1 to 3 of 3"

    Thread: Season 10 Armor Models, Art Gallery Update, Comics
    by Divinelolz
    Complaining about retarded things like mounts and adding legs to a boss is one thing, complaining about removing an ability that helps a classes shitty survivability and a paladins recycled arena set is another nice try though
  1. Ser Arthur Dayne's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nivyan View Post
    seems to me we'll be back at the welfare epics from wotlk - why would you even get exalted or bet expensive crafting epics when u can just steamroll through ZA/ZG ?

    gg blizz

    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    I LOL at the people, who doesnt want anyone else get their bear, because THEY got it long time ago...
    Most bear owners got the mount by bribing a better guild for a raid spot, they got the mount with bought Chinese gold... then they jumped around outside AH with their epeen pretending they did something extraordinary. Now that the mount is coming back, their epeen isn't amused. That's what all this whine is about.

    The whiny posts is a hint how they got their 'deserved' mount.
  1. Not A Cat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiro View Post
    No, sheeple need to stop defending blizzard like they're their 5-yr old lil brother. Recycling has gotten out of hand and is getting even worse as time marches on. I don't want this old content revamped anymore, I want NEW content. This "theme" for Cata with the old world coming alive again is a spectacular fraud pulled off by blizzard to cheap out on the art and development teams, that's it, and that's all. Just like their "item model" teams too, the amount of recycled gear is disgusting. Druids looking like Tiered Rogues... DK's looking like Tiered Wars... It's ridiculous how the "leader" is cheaping out, ripping the consumer off.


    Whew, thankfully you took an elitist stab at these no good forum goers, blizzard really needed you to get these posters off their back. For your reward, enjoy the adventures and treasure of Wailing Caverns in 4.3.

    Well, not that many people will die from this, so I'm fine with that.

    The Sheeple are on attack today boy I'll tell ya!
    Hey look, another one that tries to justify their bitching by calling anyone who disagrees with their opinion a fanboy (or sheeple)! Here's how it works for you folks who don't quite understand the concept of video games and free will. If the makers of a game implement something that you don't like, you can always quit, and it's even alright to go out with a bang, and insult the crap out of the companies mother! However, for those of us who will continue to pay for the game because we may actually like the changes (GOD FORBID!!), we would prefer not to be insulted by some immature forum goer on an ego trip who thinks his/her opinion is almighty.

    I'm not defending Blizzard, but you're merely insulting people for liking something you don't, and that makes you a not nice person, don't be one of those....
  1. sabrelime's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ddk View Post
    I'm always amazed at how little people understand about rogue DPS.
    Well this particular dagger speed does not fit either hand correctly. 1.8 are usual main hands and 1.4 are usual off hands. Using that dagger as an off hand would be less dps than using a green level 85 dagger. As a MH i'm fairly sure blue daggers would still be better if they were 1.8's.
  1. MusikDisaster's Avatar
    I hope it's not final, not much leather healer gear there. =(
  1. The Glitch's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MusikDisaster View Post
    I hope it's not final, not much leather healer gear there. =(

    Like I said before, I am hoping this isn't a full list, as stated by Boub too, it doesn't seem to be, I'm a moonkin and while the spirit to hit conversion is nice, there doesnt seem to be much haste/mastery spell leather, all spirit/crit... didn't even notice spell leather shoulders, the cloth list looks alot more filled out.

    But this is just a start, I am sure there will be more leather spell items than what we see the now. At least I hope so
  1. Embla's Avatar
    In reference to reading this and my previous cries to Blizzard of "get Rogues more than one goddam MH option" here is a summarization of my feelings.


    Seriously, what kind of crack are they on? Every other class has multiple options, albeit not all are the best, but OPTIONS none the less for primary weapon. Combat has a bunch of options for some reason, but there remains ONE raid MH. One that hasn't dropped for my guild since we've been killing Omnotron, 14 weeks in a row. And we have 3 good and active rogues. Does nobody else see a problem here? Don't even get me started on offhands. One on the last boss of a raid, and the only other an exceptionally rare trash drop in the raid that has almost no trash? HHHHHNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG.
  1. bullseyed's Avatar
    353 loot? Really? Cmon. It's not epic unless its 359.
  1. Exerionx's Avatar
    Praying to god this isn't the start of WotlK all over again with this easy epic gear >.<
  1. mstieler's Avatar
    I'm hoping the item list isn't finished, as I don't see a new 2h weapon for Cat Druids/Hunters.
  1. Master Guns's Avatar
    [email protected] clowns talking about how easy epics will be to get when you have NO idea how hard these heroics will be. lol.
  1. Tomsboll's Avatar
    Meh, so much QQ on welfare epix, for starters they are not better/equal to current raiding epix. so why wine? pvp epix are still better. and when it comes to them being enabled to be disenchanted, i really hope they do. spending 5-10k for an enchant is not good anywhere.
    The new amani bear will prolly noy be so close to old one in appearance, reskin/colored. keep in mind that other new mounts dont look exotic anywhere, the bear will prolly not either.

    And raggy should NOT have legs. nuff said

    PS. there will be 3 new instances in upcoming patch, so all the casuals who only do dungeons can stop complaining bout some specific loot not being in the table, cus it will most likely be in the third dungeon.
  1. chrisisvacant's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Prag View Post
    I'm excited that they're bringing back an awesome mount model. I wasn't playing much when it was available in TBC, so really looking forward at another shot at it.

    To the haters: You had plenty of time to feel unique. Get over it. It's a mount.

    Also, sweet loot for the alts!
    Umm, but they aren't bringing back the awesome mount model. It's a new one. Try again,
  1. CaptainArlong's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Neglesh View Post
    Praying to god this isn't the start of WotlK all over again with this easy epic gear >.<
    4.2 all Tier 11 is moved to Justice Points vendor. This was announced before Cataclysm launched, so what's you excuse for not knowing?

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