Cross-Realm Dungeon Feature Coming Soon

Originally Posted by Duster505

They will force it upon ppl just like they did with pets and storemounts.

It's NOT BEING FORCED UPON YOU...it's OPTIONAL.../facepalm

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Originally Posted by Granyala

And so it begins, Premium money affectting actual gameplay. NOT a got development.

How does this affect actual gameplay any more than queueing as tank does?

Originally Posted by Kragragh

I don't understand why this is any different than a cell phone bill (paying a base amount, then more for more services), cable bill (you get basic channels, pay for certain ones), or half the other bills I pay.

You just picked two of the bills most typically associated with being corrupt and nickel-and-diming customers. I would never use cell phone bills as an example of how something can be done.

Originally Posted by Kragragh

Sigh...you're missing my point...like I SAID, I'M not, YOU'RE not, THEY are...and I've made the point multiple times here that yes, we have to pay for things outside the monthly sub fee - so why is this any different?

Thanks for making my point for me.

Because I pay 40 bucks for access to a new world, new classes, new this new that... I do not pay for an expansion with ONE MB worth of fucking patch to a current system that will add one tiny feature.

Thanks for making your nonsensical thought-process to twist anyone else's wording into your ideal point...point. That reealllyyy proved something.

Also, if you've been making that point multiple times, you gotta do it directly and with every post if you wish to not be called out on it while you're harassing someone else about it.

Originally Posted by bloodwine77

You just picked two of the bills most typically associated with being corrupt and nickel-and-diming customers. I would never use cell phone bills as an example of how something can be done.

Funny, I don't see anyone saying they're going to cancel their cell and cable, because they're not going to, just like all you guys aren't going to cancel.

And I'm sorry you picked a cell and cable provider you feel is "corrupt and nickel-and-diming customers" because I sure don't. I left Comcast for that reason and I'm quite happy.

You guys need to take this arguing to the real forums if you want your voices to matter. If enough people stand up against this then there's a chance just like with the Real ID forum change, that Activision-Blizzard will change their mind on this dumb idea. People NEED to be vocal about this so they know it's wrong. If you don't complain now then why the finally do cross the line they can say well no one seemed to mind... etc

Originally Posted by Keosen

What if they did? how could you blame Blizzard since the feature was never there before they implemented it?
If you buy a car and the company produces the same model with optional airbags should give them to you for free?

Ok so by your logic we should pay for the LFG system, the Guild Finder, patches, Firelands, etc. I'd better get my wallet out if I want to raid next tier.

I'll offer the dissenting opinion. I'm happy to pay for this. Lots of friends on my old server who I'd love to run 5 mans with. Additional charge for additional functionality. It's not like Blizzard's operating costs are going DOWN with every year that passes, and their monthly fee is staying the same. Optional perks like this allow them to keep the base price the same.

I'm happy with it.

Sadly, I haven't played the game in over 24 hours since I cancelled my subscription since I've been paying such close attention to this situation and waiting for more official word from Blizzard. *sigh* They could've have announced this shit next week so I wouldn't have had 10 days of playtime left.

Originally Posted by Knirps

Because I pay 40 bucks for access to a new world, new classes, new this new that... I do not pay for an expansion with ONE MB worth of fucking patch to a current system that will add one tiny feature.

Then don't pay for this. Simple as that. Did you also miss the point that it's going to be more than "one tiny feature"?

Originally Posted by Kragragh

Easy to defend - "(2/20/2008)"

So they're not allowed to change their minds over three years later? Good thing they do, otherwise we wouldn't have LFD (don't act like it was better screaming for a mara run in /2 for hours), phasing, BC, LK...

BC came out in February 2007.

Nice! got lots of friends who I would love to play with from other realms but obviously since we are all in decent guilds we don't want to transfer away, I really like this idea - I am sure blizz will offer other benefits as well perhaps as it seems a bit strange just to offer ONE service like this for a premium account or whatever.

Originally Posted by Kragragh

Then don't pay for this. Simple as that. Did you also miss the point that it's going to be more than "one tiny feature"?

That isn't the point. This is a slippery slope and you can whine about hating that phrase and make fun of people for being doomsayers etc, but it's true. They keep adding more and more until finally we're going to be paying for real in game benefits. THAT is why people need to complain now to hopefully stop them before they continue.

Originally Posted by Keosen

What if they did? how could you blame Blizzard since the feature was never there before they implemented it?
If you buy a car and the company produces the same model with optional airbags should give them to you for free?

Not comparable.

You don't pay the whole cost of your car up front and then a subscription fee for it monthly to get access to the latest bug fixes, features, etcetc... And if you did, airbags would be a bugfix or a security improvement. New engine or something would be an expansion pack.

THESE COMPARISONS ARE RETARDED, PLEASE PEOPLE, STOP MAKING THEM.

Originally Posted by Kragragh

It's NOT BEING FORCED UPON YOU...it's OPTIONAL.../facepalm

Yes they are forcing it upon their playerbase. If not the mounts would be ingame feature collected with gameplay features.

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How does this affect actual gameplay any more than queueing as tank does?

Gameplay is not just how hard you hit or how much you healed. Limiting the game in any way based on extra charge is affecting the gameplay. If you can or can not play with your friends based on extra charges - is directly affecting gameplay.

How does this affect actual gameplay any more than queueing as tank does?

Hmm let me think...

Queuing with incompetent randoms, vs queuing with RL friends, who play on different servers.
I bet my ass on the fact that you DO feel a difference there. Only thing is: for the first time in the game you have to actually pay for that.

Don't get me wrong: I will never use the service, because I have alts in place where my friend is, but I don't like the Box Blizzard is opening here... (or rather, what's inside the box). I people are getting used to the fact that premium money offers better gameplay, the distance to buyable epics is one step smaller.

Originally Posted by bergmann620

This pretty much the exact same as a car lease... The car isn't yours, the account isn't yours...

You leased the 2010. You could have chosen the "Luxury AH/Chat Package" but you wanted to save a few bucks. Now, the 2011 is out with some new options. You don't get them.

If you want to pay for the "trade in" (Cata) and the higher monthly payment (Premium) you can have them.

You know what the only real difference is? Blizzard doesn't inflate your monthly payment every time you upgrade to the newer model, and there's no commitment, so if you are dissatisfied, you can walk away.

Sounds like they're really screwing you to me.

Well we are kinda paying for the expansions arent we? Stuff that should be in the expansion is now getting implemented outside it with an additional fee. Thats like buying the luxery expansion for your car to find out a few months later that the stuff of the expansion you bought is only available to you if you pay the monthly fee.

I love this. I honestly hope, WITH ALL MY HEART AND SOUL, that they'll put a price on raids from now on. That would be awesome, simply for the pleasure of reading what ignorant fools like the ones agreeing with this feature would say then.

Just imagine this (God, i really really really hope this will happen, maybe then WoW might actually knock itself off its perch):
- Firelands -> 9.99$, heroic: 12.99$
- *In-between Deathwing and Firelands raid* -> 14.99$, heroic: 17.99$
- Deathwing raid -> 19.99$, heroic: 22.99$
- optional heroic-only final boss for each raid: 1.99$ each

Blizzard anally probing their customer's assholes with huge cocks and the customers asking for more: PRICELESS.

Originally Posted by Kragragh

Maybe not to you. Works for me.

You all do also realize that they've weathered years of "I'M GONNA QUIT" and they realize all you whiners aren't really going to quit, right?

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Then that's the risk they're willing to take...again, 95% of you people threatening to quit aren't going to.

I've quit and resubbed several times over the years, mostly during major content patches or during new expansions. If you don't think that millions of people doing this affects their bottom line, you're a schmuck.

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Originally Posted by Kragragh

Feel free to disagree all you want...but when your point is that this "should" be included in your price, then yes, you don't agree with them, and they're the ones in charge. So to just say what "should" and shouldn't be included is relative, and unfortunately for you, there's only one RIGHT answer - theirs.

They can always backtrack and change their minds like they have in the past on so many other issues that the player base has disagreed with them on. Another inane pointless post.

Originally Posted by laur0511

I love this. I honestly hope, WITH ALL MY HEART AND SOUL that they'll put a price on raids from now on. That would be awesome, simply for the pleasure of reading what ignorant fools like the ones agreeing with this feature would say then.

Just imagine this (God, i really really really hope this will happen, maybe then WoW might actually knock itself off its perch):
- Firelands -> 9.99$
- *In-between Deathwing and Firelands raid* -> 14.99$
- Deathwing raid -> 19.99$

Blizzard a**lly probing their customer's a**hole with huge co*** and the customers asking for more: PRICELESS.

Yeah I gotta say you're right. The fact that ANY of their customers love this crap and support it makes me sigh. This makes me so very scared for D3. I wondered why the hell it's taking them longer to make D3 which is an action rpg than it takes most companies to make an MMO, and now I'm wondering if its because they're thinking of features like this crap to justify it being free to play online.

Sucks =\

Blizzard anally probing their customer's asshole with huge cocks and the customers asking for more: PRICELESS.

Crude language here, but to a certain degree every company does that. It's called "maximizing profits". You have to determine how far you can go some how...