Cross-Realm Dungeon Feature Coming Soon

Originally Posted by Kaeleena

It's easier for him though. As he lacks the ability to think critically, the entire world is printed in black and white. Blizzard would never charge you for other in-game feature beyond this because they haven't told you that they will charge you for other in-game features besides this, yet.

It's easier for him, more than likely, because WoW is a friggin video game. If it gets to the point where he feels Blizzard's actions are unacceptable, he will cancel and find other entertainment. There are things to actually worry about, and then there is WoW.

Originally Posted by bergmann620

It's easier for him, more than likely, because WoW is a friggin video game. If it gets to the point where he feels Blizzard's actions are unacceptable, he will cancel and find other entertainment. There are things to actually worry about, and then there is WoW.

That still doesn't explain why he's here shilling for Blizzard. You think he'd take a hint... oh wait.. nevermind.

Originally Posted by Lansow

Good. I'll pay for it. I'll also enjoy all the tears from the people that claim the game is broken for them because they can't afford a couple extra dollars a month to access features like this. Why? Simple. Not everything in life is included in the purchase price, kids. I love when schmucks learn valuable lessons.

Yup and if people learn the lesson that when you don't speak, you are not heard, then it would be fine...
If you allow them to rip your wallet, don't be surprised they do take it.

Originally Posted by rogie

Yes, and it's not even a far-fetched or imaginary slippery slope. Blizzard seems to be replicating the airlines' business model. A ticket used to be all you needed. Now, a ticket gets your butt into the worst seat on the plane, that's it. Taking luggage, pay extra. Don't want to sit next to the toilet or engines, pay extra. Want a can of soda, pay extra. Want to get into a shorter line in the airport, pay extra. Want the stewardess not to fart on you, pay extra. (OMG did I just give the airlines another idea?).

A ticket ( subscription ) is still all you need. Want to take EXTRA luggage? Pay a little more. There is a set luggage limit. Want another can of soda instead of the one they already provided for you? Pay extra, you've already gotten what you've initially paid for. Want to wait in a shorter line? Be a little proactive and don't wait until last minute to make a decision or purchase. Want the stewardess not to fart on you? Follow forum guidelines and you can avoid all the farts you want. Blizzard bends over backwards for everyone that pays to play this game and people still whine and complain. If anything, this premium service is going to be bundled into a package of other premium services ON TOP of the fact that only one of your friends needs to have the service to invite you.

Anyone who has even a slight background in networking and server maintenance knows that what they're allowing with this new RealID cross realm grouping is going to be a HUGE task for everyone involved.

Originally Posted by Hugglebug

Source? You're really good at pulling things out of thin air.

As this is a fairly complex service to develop, we don’t have a release date to share quite yet. It’s important to note that as with some of the other convenience- and connectivity-oriented features we offer, certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based, though only the player sending the invitations will need to have access to the premium service. We'll have more details to share with you as development progresses -- in the meantime, you may begin to see elements of the feature appear on the World of Warcraft PTR.

So far all premium based features have been one fee for all. I also said "I believe" and "it seems". The trend so far is to put new premium features into their "Premium" package. This may or may not be the case this time - but this is what they have done so far. This community is about as friendly as a pack of rabid dogs these days :s

Originally Posted by patcherke

Yup and if people learn the lesson that when you don't speak, you are not heard, then it would be fine...
If you allow them to rip your wallet, don't be surprised they do take it.

+1 Internetz for you.

When you leave your front door open, burglars WILL come and rob you blind, all this because you were too lazy to close it when you left.
And no, this is not doomsday talking, simple facts IRL. Preventing bad things is better than suffering and then fighting them.

Here are some extra services that take time and effort, that dont hinder your ability to progress in the game or be competitive, its an added bonus to players should THEY WISH TO UNDERTAKE THE OPTION

Optional, not mandatory.

And they want to charge on it, because i would imagine it takes alot of manhours and hardware to make this possible, so of course they will chagre a premium.

If you dont want it, dont buy it, and stop talking shite.

Originally Posted by Kaeleena

I liked TBC and some things in Wrath. Maybe I've been deluded by their constant propaganda though.

I liked TBC too, that's why I said since.
Wrath was a joke since they started with Naxx, Ulduar was good, except I got bored when my guild would only run the heroics that our MT wanted.
Didn't really do ToC at all, and with the bi-weekly buffs to usher the casuals through ICC was hilariously poor judgement.

The start of Cata was good, the raids may have been hard and with the exception of Nef, new.
Then they claimed "the player base isn't progressed enough" which, somewhat was true, but at the same time they claim "Players are defeating content at a pace we've never seen before" ... so which was it? Oh, right, they weren't anywhere close to being done Firelands and just blamed us.
Firelands being 7lol bosses will also put another big dent into their subscription numbers. Most of the community doesn't consider 'heroics' content, and when the majority are done killing Rag, they'll leave (at least I know I will).

Anyway, dunno why I went on that long but w/e

Jeeze, people like a cry and a conspiracy theory don't they?

Today, you have all the normal wow stuff and can't queue with specific people from other realms. When this comes in, you have all the normal wow stuff and can't queue with specific people from other realms, unless you take this option.

So, you gain an option, sure it costs, but you're no worse off if you choose not to take that option.

Originally Posted by bergmann620

It's easier for him, more than likely, because WoW is a friggin video game. If it gets to the point where he feels Blizzard's actions are unacceptable, he will cancel and find other entertainment. There are things to actually worry about, and then there is WoW.

It's easier for him, because ignorance often leads to happyness. The more you think about what's happening all around you and about the future, the less happy you are. But saying that that's the smart thing to do and that's dumb to worry about what could happen in the future is plain wrong, no matter if its a game or not.

Originally Posted by ZyngaFail

Ok, let's say you want to play Guild Wars 2 instead. Then you have to pay for:

- the base game

And that's it.


So Blizzard acknowledges players are leaving their MMO due to lack of value, oh what will they do? Add more premium options that add virtually nothing to the game other than decreasing its value even more for the majority of the playerbase.

Yep they are adding a feature that was never possible before, offers no gameplay advantage over anything that is currently available, and they are subsidizing by making the people who actually use the service pay for it.

You can whine and bitch all you want, but you are no way entitled to this. So point me to the multitude of messages from people bitching and complaining that they can't play the game with their friends because they are all trapped on other servers. It never happened.

Blizzard is offering something that pretty much no one game offers in this type of an MMO. Hell once upon a time you couldn't even transfer servers period. Should we go back to the days that you had to start over if you wanted to play with your friends on a different server? I'm sure there was 0 cost associated with the multitude of accounts that got hacked and had characters transferred all over the place.

So yes, if you want to play with your friend, THAT YOU COULDN'T PLAY WITH AT ALL BEFORE NOW, you'll have to pay a little extra. In fact not even everyone in the group has to pay, just the inviter. Unless you'd rather pay $25 every time you want to transfer to your friends server to play with them.

Originally Posted by Prem

Jeeze, people like a cry and a conspiracy theory don't they?

Today, you have all the normal wow stuff and can't queue with specific people from other realms. When this comes in, you have all the normal wow stuff and can't queue with specific people from other realms, unless you take this option.

So, you gain an option, sure it costs, but you're no worse off if you choose not to take that option.

All true, except well it's false. You are worse if you don't take it, because you don't have the same options as everybody else who paid.
What do I pay sub fees every month for ? To get another cool feature every now and then, but o wait, its extra "premium" only. So, what, my 15$ goes only for rehashing instances and paying the electricity and maintenance for game servers ? A little bit too expensive ? Why did we get new stuff for "free" (free if you pay your sub) until now ?

Originally Posted by hollycrapp

All true, except well it's false. You are worse if you don't take it, because you don't have the same options as everybody else who paid.
What do I pay sub fees every month for ? To get another cool feature every now and then, but o wait, its extra "premium" only. So, what, my 15$ goes only for rehashing instances and paying the electricity and maintenance for game servers ? A little bit too expensive ? Why did we get new stuff for "free" (free if you pay your sub) until now ?

And name change costs how much?
Also how much do you pay to send a SMS? because guess what, it costs the phone companys nothing at all.

Originally Posted by Oni

Just one question, what happens when you try to trade items/gold with someone from another realm via the LFG dungeon? Yeah...

What could happened if someone does that for real money? How is blizz going to stop that?

Originally Posted by Jaerin

So yes, if you want to play with your friend, THAT YOU COULDN'T PLAY WITH AT ALL BEFORE NOW, you'll have to pay a little extra. In fact not even everyone in the group has to pay, just the inviter. Unless you'd rather pay $25 every time you want to transfer to your friends server to play with them.

O rly ? So I must pay extra EVERY month for a few hundred C++ lines which every programmer can write ? When do I get the new stuff I pay for every month with my sub ?

I was excited about the new feature until I saw it was going to be a paid service. Yet another cool thing I won't be getting for this game. I'm not paying extra for features I should have as part of my monthly subscription. Poor move, Blizzard.

Originally Posted by Oni

Just one question, what happens when you try to trade items/gold with someone from another realm via the LFG dungeon? Yeah...

By the way people saying "time is money", defending that this service is way better then just reroll, I have another question... isn't WoW a video game, isn't the main objective of a video game have fun while burning our free time? Unless you decide to skip your job to reroll, I don't really see how this works =X

You cant trade over x-relm

Originally Posted by Toonaphish

A ticket ( subscription ) is still all you need. Want to take EXTRA luggage? Pay a little more. There is a set luggage limit. Want another can of soda instead of the one they already provided for you? Pay extra, you've already gotten what you've initially paid for. Want to wait in a shorter line? Be a little proactive and don't wait until last minute to make a decision or purchase. Want the stewardess not to fart on you? Follow forum guidelines and you can avoid all the farts you want. Blizzard bends over backwards for everyone that pays to play this game and people still whine and complain. If anything, this premium service is going to be bundled into a package of other premium services ON TOP of the fact that only one of your friends needs to have the service to invite you.

Anyone who has even a slight background in networking and server maintenance knows that what they're allowing with this new RealID cross realm grouping is going to be a HUGE task for everyone involved.

Been a while since you took a flight, eh? Or maybe you've never flown? Or maybe you're 13, and your parents handle everything?

Whether it is or is not a "HUGE" task is irrelevant. Isn't designing a raid a huge task? Isn't adding a cross-server LFD tool a huge task? Aren't lots of things that they do huge tasks?

Simply saying that something is difficult doesn't MEAN anything. Our $200 per year includes certain things. Sometimes, in exchange for this money, Blizzard will need to do "huge" tasks. They have a choice. Coast, stop putting money into WoW, and make (almost) pure profit until the last subscriber quits. Or keep putting money in to retain and attract subscribers. But this is a profit-driven company, like most others, so they are in between those two options. The goal is to extract the greatest possible amount of money from us, at the lowest possible cost to themselves.

If we were buying toothpaste from Blizzard, it would be an easy decision to dump them. But we have invested our own time and emotions into this game; extricating ourselves from this exploitative relationship is much more difficult. Cutting one's losses is something we put off, hoping our abusive partner will change. But they never will.

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Originally Posted by Cassidin

So far all premium based features have been one fee for all. I also said "I believe" and "it seems". The trend so far is to put new premium features into their "Premium" package. This may or may not be the case this time - but this is what they have done so far. This community is about as friendly as a pack of rabid dogs these days :s

Well, this community is largely made up of wow players. And wow players are about the sh*ttiest, scummiest people on earth. Present company excepted, of course...

Originally Posted by goozen

And name change costs how much?
Also how much do you pay to send a SMS? because guess what, it costs the phone companys nothing at all.

Sending SMS has nothing to do with WoW.
But I will bite. Sending SMS actually costs part of the connection towers the phone company has built, some electricity, also paid for your SMS and additional taxes on your phone company's profit behalf. Really not free. The actual price of every product is somewhere between the real price for production and the maximum price the customer is ready to pay for it. The more, the better, but not for you. The could as well tax you 100$ for an SMS but no one will use one then.

Stuff like this just keeps me playing Rift. That game is more fun than WoW at this point anyway.

It's was a fun ride Blizz, but I think the time to uninstall and never look back has finally come.