Patch 4.2 PTR Notes Update - May 24th
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Dungeons & Raids
Bastion of Twilight
  • The damage modifier on Normal has been reduced for Arion, Elementium Monstrosity, Feludius, Ignacius, and Terrastra.
  • Removed one of each type of Bound elemental from the Ascendant Council chamber.
  • Arion
    • Chain Lightning damage has been reduced.
  • Cho’gall
    • Health, melee damage, Health of Corrupting Adherent, Depravity damage, Corrupting Crash damage, Flaming Destruction damage, and Unleashed Shadows damage has all been reduced by 20%.
    • Corrupting Crash and Depravity
    • Halved the amount of Corruption they give to 5 from 10.
    • Corrupted Bite effect caused by Blood of the Old God reduced.
    • Damage Taken from Corruption of the Old God per Corrupted Blood has been reduced from 3% per stack to 2% per stack.
    • Debilitating Beam damage has been reduced by 20% to 6,400.
    • The duration of Twisted Devotion has been reduced by 25%.
  • Dragon Siblings
    • Health, melee damage, Twilight Meteorite damage, Devouring Flames, Blackout damage, Unstable Twilight damage, Twilight Zone damage, Twilight Blast damage, Fabulous Flames damage, has all been reduced by 20%.
  • Elementium Monstrosity
    • Electrical Instability damage has been reduced.
  • Feludius
    • Damage due to being Frozen while Waterlogged has been reduced.
  • Halfus
    • Health, melee damage, Fireball/Fireball Barrage damage, Furious Roar damage, Scorching Breath damage, Shadow Nova damage, has all been reduced by 20%.
    • Nether Scion, Slate Dragon, Storm Rider, Time Warden, and Orphaned Emerald Whelp health has been reduced by 20%.
    • Shadow Nova base cast time has been increased.
  • Ignacious
    • Rising Flames now increases damage by 3% per stack, down from 5%.
  • Terrastra
    • Harden Skin now increases Physical damage dealt by 20% (down from 100%.)

Blackwing Descent
  • Atramedes
    • Health, melee damage, modulation damage, Roaring Flame Breath damage, and Searing Flame damage has all been reduced by 20%.
    • Modulation no longer causes Sound in normal difficulty.
    • Sound given by Sonar Pulse has been reduced to 3 (from 5.)
  • Chimaeron
    • Health reduced by 20% and melee damage reduced by 10%.
    • Chimaeron will now only cast two caustic slimes per 30 second cycle, at second 17 and second 23.
  • Drakeadon Mongrel
    • Time Lapse no longer stuns.
    • Frost Burn silence is now 3 seconds
  • Dwarven Kings
    • Whirlwind no longer drops threat.
    • Execution sentence now deals damage only.
    • Shield of Light absorption now reduced.
  • Magmaw
    • Damage and hit points reduced by 20%.
    • Lava Parasites have been diminished
    • Lava Spew damage, Magma Spit damage, Massive Crash damage, and Infectious Vomit damage have all been been reduced.
    • Mangled Lifeless no longer instantly kills, and damage has been reduced.
    • Parasitic Infection has been decreased.
  • Maloriak
    • Health, damage, Aberation health/damage, Arcane Storm damage, Prime Subject damage, Flash Freeze/Shatter damage, and Scorching Blast damage has all been decreased by 20%.
    • Aberration stacking damage buff decreased.
    • Prime Subjects no longer fixate, and are no longer immune to taunt.
  • Nefarian
    • Animated Bone Warriors take 33 seconds to fall over, (down from 50.)
    • Blast Nova cast time increased.
    • Chromatic Prototype Health reduced 20%.
    • Electrocute damage reduced 30%.
    • Fewer Animated Bone warriors spawn.
    • Magma Stacking debuff effect reduced 75%.
    • Nefarian health and melee damage reduced by 20%.
    • Nefarian's Shadowblaze cast frequency cannot increase beyond 1 per 15 sec.
    • Onyxia health and melee damage reduced by 20%.
    • Shadowflame Barrage damage reduced 20%.
    • Tail Lash damage reduced 50%.
  • Omnotron Council
    • Barrier absorb amount increased by 100%.
    • Increased the cooldown on Power Conversion (Converted Power chance).
    • Health, Melee damage, Electrical Discharge damage, Lightning Conductor damage, Health of Poison Bomb, Incineration Security Measure damage, Arcane Annihilator damage, has all been reduced by 20%.
    • Flamethrower damage has been reduced by 40%.
    • Static Shock caused by Unstable Shield damage and Poison Bomb damage has been decreased by 50%.

Throne of the Four Winds
  • Al’Akir
    • Acid Rain now stacks every 20s (up from 15s.)
    • Electrocute now pulses every 1s (up from 0.5s.)
    • Feedback duration increased to 30s (from 20s.)
    • Health, damage, and Wind Burst damage have all been reduced 20%.
    • Lightning and Lightning Rod recast time has been increased.
    • Lightning Strike friendly chain damage has been halved.
    • Will no longer use Static Shock on normal difficulty in phase 1 or phase 2.
  • Conclave of the Four Winds
    • Gathering Strength cast time has been increased
    • Ice Patch slow is now 5% per stack, up to 10 stacks (down from 10% per stack, up to 30 stacks), damage reduced by 20%.
    • Rohash, Anshal, Nezir melee, Ravenous Creeper health/damage, Ravenous Creeper toxic spores damage, Hurricane damage, Sleet Storm damage , Permafrost damage , Slicing Gale, and Wind Blast damage have all been reduced by 20%.
    • Wind Chill damage decreased by 20%and now increases damage taken by 5% per stack.

Classes: General
  • Dodge: Death Knights, paladins, and warriors no longer receive any bonus to their chance to dodge from Agility. Their base chance to dodge is now a fixed 5%.
  • Parry: Death Knights, paladins, and warriors now receive 27% of their Strength bonuses as parry rating, up from 25%. This conversion still only applies to Strength above and beyond their base Strength.

Mage (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
  • Pyroblast: The version of this spell cast when Hot Streak is not active did slightly less damage than the Hot Streak version. Its damage has been increased so that both versions of Pyroblast now do the same amount of damage.
  • Spellsteal mana cost has been increased 100%.

Fire
  • Impact: When Living Bomb is spread via this talent, it will only be spread to two additional targets. The net effect is that if the Mage’s most recent Living Bomb target is the same as their Impact target, that target will no longer lose the Living Bomb effect. If Living Bomb is active on multiple targets when the Impact effect is cast, Living Bomb will remain active on the most recent Living Bomb target, and will be added to two other nearby targets.

Frost
  • Deep Freeze and Ring of Frost will now cause diminishing returns for each other.
  • Ring of Frost now has a 1.5-second cast time.
  • Spellsteal now has a 6-second cooldown.

Paladin (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
  • Seal of Righteousness – now can be proc’d by any melee ability, not just single target melee abilities. This adds Hammer of the Righteous (the physical component) and Divine Storm to the list of abilities that can proc it. In addition, Seal of Righteousness procs can now crit.

Holy
  • Walk in the Light now improves Word of Glory healing by 30% in addition to its current effects.

Protection
  • Guardian of Ancient Kings now uses the ‘Assist’ pet stance functionality.

Retribution
  • Seals of Command: This talent now makes Seal of Righteousness hit an unlimited number of melee targets, instead of only 2 additional targets.

Glyphs
  • Glyph of Seal of Truth: The expertise bonus granted by this glyph now also works when Seal of Righteousness is active.

Priest (Forums / Talent Calculator / Skills/Talents)
  • Shadowfiend now uses the ‘Assist’ pet stance functionality.

Shadow
  • Sin and Punishment’s Vampiric Touch backlash Fear effect no longer has diminishing returns.

Items
Tier 11 Set Bonuses
  • Restoration druid Tier 11 2-Piece: This set bonus has been redesigned to work with the new Restoration druid mastery. Druids with this bonus now receive the bonus to Spirit while the Harmony mastery bonus to periodic healing is active.

Tier 12 Set Bonuses
  • Hunter 4P: The effect which makes Shots cost no focus now also makes Kill Command cost no focus.
  • Mage 2P: This set bonus can now also be triggered by Frostfire Bolt.
  • Mage 4P: The portion of this bonus referring to Arcane Missiles have been removed. Instead, the set bonus now makes Arcane Power reduce the cost of Mage spells by 10% instead of increasing their cost.

PvP
Arenas
  • The Ring of Valor has been added to the Arena rotation once again.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 4.2 PTR Notes Update - May 24th started by Boubouille View original post
Comments 674 Comments
  1. Starlightt's Avatar
    fine imo, after we finish with the content nerf if for the casuals. better than having nerf'd content from day1 so i wouldn't complain to much
  1. Edradour's Avatar
    Well im glad they didnt nerf it while i was still raiding it...i dont really agree with it seeing that even pugs could do everything but nef on our server ( especially not if the nerfs really target only nonhc )
  1. mmocf470930503's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin Racoon View Post
    The problem I have with these nerfs is its not just 20% here and there. Entire mechanics are being removed.

    Al'akir
    Will no longer use Static Shock on normal difficulty in phase 1 or phase 2.

    May as well just hug indefinitely and ignore wind burst entirely.

    Poison Bomb damage has been decreased by 50%.

    May as well just soak the damage instead of dpsing the adds.

    A nerf here are there to make content more accessible is understandable. Making fights braindead encourages people to maintain a terrible standard. Can't wait to run heroics for some VP come next patch "NO SOZ I DON'T DO MECHANICS THATS FOR NUBS HURR DURR I R RAIDER K"
    +1 on this comment.

    This basically sums up what the nerfs will lead to.
  1. mmocf51ce64535's Avatar
    Even bads have a right to see content i suppose. While we hardcore raidres have t12 to have fun with. The bads have t11 as new content to play. Its fair as hell. Tier 11 is old content. The bads deserve being able to see it for the monthly fee they pay.

    The sense of progression shouldnt only be for the elite.
  1. Barinthos's Avatar
    The sheer amount of kids QQing about OLD content being nerfed is just...baffling. T11 = Old and busted. T12 = New Hotness.

    It makes about as much sense as someone complaining about being able to faceroll the hell out of ICC at level 85. Of course you can! It's OLD content!

    Get off your high horses and get your panties out of that ginormous wad and get over it. The other 10+ million people that pay $15 a month want a chance to see what the game has to offer, regardless of how it's delivered to them.
  1. Venteus's Avatar
    This "everyone should see the content" mentality is garbage. If they aren't good enough to play through the game's content then they shouldn't be playing it to begin with.
  1. starkey's Avatar
    When ever a new raid comes into play the old one gets a nef so the people that are still progressing through can now get through it faster too get too the new content, whats the problem? people been bitching about this for how long now?g et over it, and too the ones that say bads or not hardcore, just please gfto honestly this game hasn't been hardcore since vanilla and 80% of you drop kicks never set foot in vanilla, let alone knew where mc,bwl was and these are the kids that want vanilla back even though they never witnessed how shit it was
  1. Ranikotar's Avatar
    Heh this is a pretty funny read in here...

    Who cares if they're nerfing t11? If you're good you won't even be doing that content until you've cleared Firelands or you don't have enough of your good core players on for Firelands progress. I like the changes since it means my alts can do more than 8-10 bosses while having some less skilled players in the raid and while my alts are in t11 my main will be in t12.
  1. nyhcjedi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by trunkrollah View Post
    wow why all the t11 raids nerfed hard? the content will already be a joke with t12 gear


    whos gonna have t12? I barely have a single piece of t11.
  1. lilbuddhaman's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sodant View Post
    Even bads have a right to see content i suppose. While we hardcore raidres have t12 to have fun with. The bads have t11 as new content to play. Its fair as hell. Tier 11 is old content. The bads deserve being able to see it for the monthly fee they pay.

    The sense of progression shouldnt only be for the elite.
    I'd *might* be ok about this if:
    -All achievements related to the content were removed and/or modified.
    -There was an option to play the encounters in their original forms.

    Sadly, it is not. There is no achievement, safe for Server/World Firsts that aren't beaten by waiting 3 months. And so the risk vs reward factor gets further flushed away.
  1. Biggiej's Avatar
    Pretty surprised to see these nerfs for normal mode, I mean it was pretty easy from the get go. I guess they want to let pugs see it, but even pugs doing just 6k dps still arent gonna get a kill. You would have to nerf the bosses right in half for the much worse players to be able to do it.
  1. Barinthos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Venteus View Post
    This "everyone should see the content" mentality is garbage. If they aren't good enough to play through the game's content then they shouldn't be playing it to begin with.
    Being good enough is only a portion of why some people are unable to see end game content. Full time jobs, full time student, full time parent, outside social life to prevent a game from taking over are a few others besides the "baddies can't play" portion.

    Blizzard is running a business first and foremost, not making a digital playground for the "cool kids" to have fun in. $15 a month spread across a mere fraction of the population of the game that CAN play at the top of their class and plow through content is only a drop in the bucket compared to the "casuals" some of you seem to hate so much. So, since it's Blizzard's IP/Game/World/Playground, they deem it necessary, right and just plain "because we said so" to nerf older content.

    I understand it, i support it and the age old adage "you can't please everyone" will always be prevalent with WoW and pretty much every MMO on the planet.
  1. Kidies's Avatar
    If the nerf's for normal only, fine, Defender of Shattered World never is a good title anyway.
    If they decide to nerf heroic too that's a different story. I hate it when they make LoD available even now.
  1. Ghosty's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by zephid View Post
    Well what would you call a 20% damage/health nerf of all encounters if not catering to casuals?
    Catering to bads ;P

    Plus you can now pug t11 with your alts and actually have a decent chance of clearing the dungeon.
  1. radical's Avatar
    Why should I care if they nerf t11? I've been 13/13hm for a while now and only been raiding for 1 day a week for the past months. The true hardcore players will not care if the rest of the bads get to see the content.
  1. skylla05's Avatar
    I do not see why people are complaining about content that will be nerfed. Most of the people complaining wont be coming back to the old content anyways.
    Exactly. Most people complain for the sake of complaining.

    For the people that are struggling, it's good and provides a smoother path to get into current content. For everyone that pretends their above the ease/difficulty, they'll be wiping in Firelands.

    Nobody loses except people whos only sense of gratification is being cool in a video game.
  1. Crucialus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kidies View Post
    If the nerf's for normal only, fine, Defender of Shattered World never is a good title anyway.
    If they decide to nerf heroic too that's a different story. I hate it when they make LoD available even now.
    The nerfs are for normal-mode only.

    And honestly, why is everyone complaining? T11 content is NO LONGER THE MAIN THING. << Read that? Yes. I think it's fair to make it easier for those who haven't cleared the content yet. -_-
  1. Sammonoske's Avatar
    I'm not QQing or anything, but that is one serious sweep of raid nerfs. In the end it is moot because T12 is available by then.
  1. Strakha's Avatar
    If you haven't cleared all the raids by now, chances are you never will.
    If you have cleared the raids, you have your pre-nerf achievement.

    Dunno why anyone is mad about this, it happens in every content patch since ZG vanilla.
  1. marinos's Avatar
    Who the fuck cares if old content is getting nerfed?
    What matters is new one to be competitive and fun.

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