Patch 4.2 Valor Points Rewards, Firelands Ragnaros Video, Blue Posts, Artworks

Patch 4.2 - Justice and Valor Points Rewards
The latest PTR patch updated the Justice and Valor Points vendors and we finally know what to expect from them in the next patch. A couple of important things:


  • Old epic ilvl 359/"Valor" gear is now available from the Justice Points vendor at the same prices.
  • "Old" rare/Justice Points gear is still for sale at the same price.
  • When Patch 4.2 is released, your existing Valor Points will be converted to Justice Points.
  • Normal versions of Bastion of Twilight, Blackwing Descent, and Throne of the Four Winds will be nerfed and will only reward Justice Points.

Level Type Spec Slot Name Price
378ThrownMeleeThrownMorningstar Shard700 x
378ThrownMeleeThrownGiantslicer700 x
378ThrownTankThrownDeflecting Star700 x
378WandSpell DPSRangedTrail of Embers700 x
378WandSpell SpiritRangedScorchvine Wand700 x
378PlateMeleeWristGigantiform Bracers1,250 x
378PlateSpell SpiritWristBracers of Imperious Truths1,250 x
378PlateTankWristBracers of Regal Force1,250 x
378MailPhysical DPSWristBracers of Forked Lightning1,250 x
378MailSpell SpiritWristBracers of Misting Ash1,250 x
378LeatherMeleeWristFlamebinder Bracers1,250 x
378LeatherSpell SpiritWristSmolderskull Bindings1,250 x
378ClothSpell DPSWristEmberflame Bracers1,250 x
378ClothSpell SpiritWristFiresoul Wristguards1,250 x
378NeckMeleeNeckStoneheart Choker1,250 x
378NeckPhysical DPSNeckNecklace of Smoke Signals1,250 x
378NeckSpell DPSNeckAmulet of Burning Brilliance1,250 x
378NeckSpell SpiritNeckFiremind Pendant1,250 x
378NeckTankNeckStoneheart Necklace1,250 x
378FingerMeleeFingerSerrated Brimstone Signet1,250 x
378FingerPhysical DPSFingerSplintered Brimstone Seal1,250 x
378FingerSpell DPSFingerCrystalline Brimstone Ring1,250 x
378FingerSpell SpiritFingerSoothing Brimstone Circle1,250 x
378FingerTankFingerDeflecting Brimstone Band1,250 x
378RelicMeleeRelicRelic of the Elemental Lords1,250 x
378RelicPhysical DPSRelicCovenant of the Flame700 x
378RelicSpell DPSRelicSoulflame Vial700 x
378RelicSpell SpiritRelicSinged Plume of Aviana700 x
378RelicTankRelicDeathclutch Figurine700 x


Ragnaros Testing on Test Realms
Players had a chance to test the fight against Ragnaros last night and a couple of guilds released videos of the encounter. No kill videos yet, but a couple of 40-20% wipes. If you have no idea what's going on, you can always check out the details of the fight in our Encounter Journal Preview.





BlizzCon Benefit Dinner Tickets On Sale - Saturday, May 28 at 10 a.m. PT
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Before the BlizzCon festivities begin, we're inviting you to join us for an evening of good food and good conversation -- all for a good cause. Approximately 200 tickets to a special pre-BlizzCon dinner to benefit Children's Hospital of Orange County will be going on sale tomorrow, Saturday, May 28 at 10 a.m. PT. Keep your eye on the ticket sales page tomorrow for the chance to get yours. For more information on the BlizzCon Benefit Dinner, visit the official BlizzCon website at www.blizzcon.com.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Need roll makes items soulbound in Patch 4.2
It's in 4.2 (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Anti Ninja Loot System
I think what you want is a system that keeps people from rolling on the gear you want because you don't believe they deserve it to the same degree you do. There are already restrictions in place that keep people from rolling on items they can't use. We don't want to begin restricting what people can roll on based on current spec, because that's not a black or white situation, which is how the system would need to be set up to work how you'd like.

There are some surefire ways to avoid or seriously cut down on situations like this, but it should be understood that if you enter into Dungeon Finder your rolls can go up against the rolls of someone else, regardless if you think you should get preference or not.

If you're looking for a certain item, I'd let the group know before the first pull and ask if anyone else is going to roll need on it. If nothing else it'll show everyone your intent, and put anyone on display who (at the consensus of the group) isn't playing by what you'd consider to be fair.

[...] To bring one more to the table (or reiterate one, I haven't read all 20 pages), and it's one that is a big reason why the system works as it does: if only tanks can roll on tank gear, then it becomes really hard for anyone else to build up the gear they need to be able to tank. We would end up with a bunch of undergeared tanks ("Sorry guys, but this is the only way I can get armor,") or worse, fewer tanks in the system overall because nobody can get gear. People would be forced to gear for healing or tanking through other means because they wouldn't be able to move fluidly from leveling as DPS to Dungeon Finder and begin acquiring the gear they need to fulfill their role. Or, the Light forbid, one day someone decides they want to try healing or tanking and needs to begin building a set.

At some point systems become so 'helpful' that they're a detriment. For that reason we have to reach a point where we're making sure we're stopping the majority of negatives, but not squeezing the egg of problems so hard that we create four messier ones. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blizzard Art Gallery Update
The World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Art gallery has been updated with 4 new pieces of TBC Art.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 4.2 Valor Points Rewards, Firelands Ragnaros Video, Blue Posts, Artworks started by Boubouille View original post
Published on 2011-05-28 07:15 AM
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  1. mmocafd6fe3fae's Avatar
    Is there a blue post somewhere saying if the Living Embers will be available for Valor points or not, please ?
  1. crsh1976's Avatar
    I honestly wonder why it took Blizzard that many years to add a simple anti-ninjaing such as the one they're putting in.
  1. good diu bro's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by highnaga View Post
    So all my Valor will be justice when patch comes?

    So if i have 2000 Valor, its 2000 justice?
    You mean if you have 2000 valor and justice, you get 4000 justice or capped at 3000?
  1. woxingma's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by AVPaul View Post
    Add need for MS and OS buttons and "unique item"-like mechanic, that would prevent people from rolling need for MS on item if they already have the same or better one in slot. And don't say that "tank isn't my main spec, but I like to go to dung as tank cuz I don't want to wait at 40 min queue - so I'll roll dps gear". MS in that case - is a spec you specify when queuing to LFD. And yes, I think ppl who queued as specific spec to LFD has a priority to roll on "their" type of gear. And only if they don't need this item - only then other specs may roll for OS.
    FYI, this is the very suggestion that he was replying to.
  1. Dawnseven's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by wiIdi View Post
    Tanks rolling on dps gear makes it harder for dps to gear up and dps rolling on tank gear makes it harder for tanks to gear up.

    Lets say you kill a raid boss and a tank item drops, who deserves it more? The mage, the rogue, the other dps or the tank?

    Thats why only tanks should be allowed to roll on tank gear and dps on dps gear, if the tank hits greed/disenchant/pass, then and only then would the need button unlock for the other plate-wearing dpsers.
    I think all the needing is a byproduct of the disenchant option coming into play. Need if need, greed for offspec, worked pretty well. Now if you don't need it there's a 80% change you're going to watch it turn to dust/essence/shards for someone else. With gogogogogogo there isn't time to stop and have a conversation about it.
  1. VanishO2's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by zearrow View Post
    as said earlier if they were to put in a staff it would have to be a hunter only staff because it would be up for grabs for feral druids, which would make it unfair for the rest of the classes
    2H wayyyyys better than a tiny Relic.

    The choose to put relics as emblem items so they don't need to spread it trough bosses. It's a small item only used by a few classes that need too much itemization and became useless drop most of the time in Ulduar (or for some ppl, ridiculous hard to upgrade for never dropping the correct relic). They even transform all of them in universal Relics (used to be Idol, Librams and Sigils and totems if I'm not mistaken).
  1. Dawnseven's Avatar
    Would like a definitive answer on what happens to current JPs when 4.2 drops. Are your current VPs converted and *added* to your current JPs? Or do your VPs become JPs and your JPs converted to gold or something?
  1. mmocedc3ab95b5's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by wiIdi View Post
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Anti Ninja Loot System
    If only tanks can roll on tank gear, then it becomes really hard for anyone else to build up the gear they need to be able to tank.
    Tanks rolling on dps gear makes it harder for dps to gear up and dps rolling on tank gear makes it harder for tanks to gear up.

    Lets say you kill a raid boss and a tank item drops, who deserves it more? The mage, the rogue, the other dps or the tank?

    Thats why only tanks should be allowed to roll on tank gear and dps on dps gear, if the tank hits greed/disenchant/pass, then and only then would the need button unlock for the other plate-wearing dpsers.
    copy+paste
    its so true. i mentioned this before on official site but i c there was more "i want my tank gearz now" then logic..

    once a warrDPS needed a tankthingy in BRC normal, i was in gearing progress on my bloodDK, he pulled 500dps throughout the instance and won it.
  1. Sinister Knight's Avatar
    RE: warrs taking Abil pieces, yes it does make them tards. There are pleny of Str ranged wpns avail to them for use tanking and dpsing. It just takes a little work, and if you're that impatient that you'd rather buy an agility ranged weapon, you make the rest of the Warrior nation wish you'd reroll. Proper stats far > taking an agil item just for the ilvl. 4 2v2 arena wins at 0 rating = thrown wpn with str on it that's nearly identical to the BoE Carbine gun. It's like when I see people in Zul Pugs asking if they can need on leather (as a hunter) or cloth (as a druid), which would mean breaking their armor bonus for their class. Makes no sense at all, some people just see purple and marginally higher ilvl and get stupid.

    RE: VP conversion making your JP go over the 4k cap: I hope they do this, but at the same time if you're planning on buying things with JP that you can get with VP, you might as well buy them with VP now because the cost won't change. And if you are hoping to buy tradeskill mats or something, it's really not worth saving 4k VP just for a few stacks of herbs or ore or what have you, it would take you far less time to farm the mats than it did to get the VP. And if you've already purchased everything you could possibly want with VP for MS and OS's, well then you probably don't care if the conversion goes over cap or not.
  1. mmocd0826a5fa6's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by highnaga View Post
    So all my Valor will be justice when patch comes?

    So if i have 2000 Valor, its 2000 justice?
    Yes.
    But there's 4000 cap on Valor.
    So if you have, let's say 6000 Valor you will only get 4000 justice, everything above 4000 is gone.
  1. Bizarro55's Avatar
    Wrong, there is no cap on Valor, only justice.
  1. thunderdragon2's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bizarro55 View Post
    Wrong, there is no cap on Valor, only justice.
    wrong theres is a valor cap only that its per week and its 1250 per

    and dont the items seem kinda cheap to anyone else?
  1. mmoc10bda09cc4's Avatar
    Like someone said already, Ragnaros looks quite bad and dull from the waist down.

    lvl 60 Raggy had a better swirl around him.
  1. ClavellBC's Avatar
    What? No nerdrage on needing on BoE's making the item soulbound if you win it in 4.2?
  1. Confessor Kahlan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Baikalsan View Post
    ???

    Full T9 and t10 was available in wrath through emblems, what are you talking about?
    Tiers 9 and 10 also had 3 different item levels, where 7 8 and 11, all have 2.
  1. Spammeister's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ClavellBC View Post
    What? No nerdrage on needing on BoE's making the item soulbound if you win it in 4.2?
    The only people who would whine about it are the people who would /need on anything and everything anyways. They don't have an argument.
  1. Daedius's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Truefacts View Post
    It's kind of stupid that they keep doing this. EVERYBODY gets a relic/ranged slot from valor points! Except hunters.
    Yeah... I'm sure we use them for a direct improvement on DPS [aka, a weapon]... right?
  1. Kromtar's Avatar
    For the people asking about whether any T12 will be buyable with valor, in the Patch 4.2 - PTR Build 14179 post farther down on the item list you can see that all 5 slots have a token, with 2 slots having a second type of token. This would be the same as T11 where head/shoulders have a reg and heroic token and everything else has a heroic token, so it should be the same system as T11 with 3 pieces via valor on reg.
  1. Madcaptn's Avatar
    what will be the amount of valor points possible per week? 7 bosses + 7 5mans + 7 zandalaries per week = ??
  1. Balkir's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Madcaptn View Post
    what will be the amount of valor points possible per week? 7 bosses + 7 5mans + 7 zandalaries per week = ??
    As far as I know the weekly cap is still 1250.
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