Update - For the record, the international codes 009 and 041 only seems to appear on Blizzard's online games trademarks. This isn't a book or anything like that. It appears incredibly likely based on previous trademarks obtained by Blizzard that this is the next expansion.


Mists of Pandaria
Blizzard just trademarked a very interesting "Mists of Pandaria".

This article was originally published in forum thread: Mists of Pandaria started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. AnteroXX's Avatar
    i cant believe humanity is seriously this retarded.

    patches dont get trademarked

    blizzard has nothing to do with the TCG

    you're stupid if you think this is warcraft 4

    you're stupid if you think this is Titan

    you're retarded if you complain about pandas being to childish when there are gnomes and werewolves

    etc.. etc...

    i'll enjoy my panda expansion collector edition while you rage about it on forums

    tl;dr :you're stupid
  1. mmoc498c90669a's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by AnteroXX View Post
    i cant believe humanity is seriously this retarded.

    patches dont get trademarked

    blizzard has nothing to do with the TCG

    you're stupid if you think this is warcraft 4

    you're stupid if you think this is Titan

    you're retarded if you complain about pandas being to childish when there are gnomes and werewolves

    etc.. etc...

    i'll enjoy my panda expansion collector edition while you rage about it on forums

    tl;dr :you're stupid
    well said.
  1. mmoc4fd64f6c8d's Avatar
    I still love how everyone thinks the list is bullcrap: Draenor Set Azuremyst Isle - 1 to 10 Bloodmyrk Isle - 10 to 20 Eversong Forest - 1 to 10 Quel'thalas - 10 to 20 Hellfire Peninsula - 58 to 62 Zangarmarsh - 60 to 64 Terokkar Forest - 61 to 65 The Deadlands - 63 to 67 Nagrand - 64 to 68 Blade's Edge Mountains - 66 to 70 Netherstorm - 67 to 70 Shadowmoon Valley - 69 to 70 - Northrend Set Borean Tundra - 67 to 70 Howling Fjord - 67 to 70 Dragonblight - 69 to 72 Grizzly Hills - 70 to 73 Crystalsong Forest - 72 to 75 Zul'drak - 73 to 76 Sholazar Basin - 75 to 79 Storm Peaks - 76 to 80 Icecrown Glacier - 78 to 80 - Maelstrom Set Gilneas - 77 to 80 Grim Batol - 78 to 81 Kul Tiras - 79 to 82 Kezan - 81 to 86 Tel Abim - 83 to 85 Zandalar - 84 to 87 Plunder Isle - 86 to 88 The Broken Isles - 87 to 90 The Maelstrom - 89 to 90 - Plane Set Pandaria - 1 to 10 Hiji - 10 to 20 Wolfenhold - 1 to 10 Xorothian Plains - 10 to 20 The Green Lands - 88 to 91 The Dying Paradise - 91 to 94 The Emerald Nightmare - 94 to 97 The Eye of Ysera - 97 to 100 Deephome - 88 to 91 Skywall - 91 to 94 The Abyssal Maw - 94 to 97 The Firelands - 97 to 100 - Legion Set K'aresh - 96 to 99 Argus Meadowlands - 97 to 100 Mac'Aree - 99 to 100 Maw of Oblivion - 100+ The Burning Citadel - 100+++ Google for: wow "the list" and there's plenty of reference from 2007 onwards. A few bits have been changed (especially now, this far in) but it seems we can expect a mix of bits from the maelstrom and plane set from that list (stuff we've seen in small font): - Maelstrom Set Gilneas - 77 to 80 Grim Batol - 78 to 81 Kul Tiras - 79 to 82 Kezan - 81 to 86 Tel Abim - 83 to 85 Zandalar - 84 to 87 Plunder Isle - 86 to 88 The Broken Isles - 87 to 90 The Maelstrom - 89 to 90 - Plane Set Pandaria - 1 to 10 Hiji - 10 to 20 Wolfenhold - 1 to 10 Xorothian Plains - 10 to 20 The Green Lands - 88 to 91 The Dying Paradise - 91 to 94 The Emerald Nightmare - 94 to 97 The Eye of Ysera - 97 to 100 Deephome - 88 to 91 Skywall - 91 to 94 The Abyssal Maw - 94 to 97 The Firelands - 97 to 100
  1. mmoc4fd64f6c8d's Avatar
    Oh look, the list that lots of people try and shoot down each time it's posted is correct again.... funny that. Copy/pasted from a 2008 forum post, you'll find older references to it if you dig hard enough. Accepted some bits have changed order and the "+" and "++" of path of the titans was scraped for cata expansion but still....

    Draenor Set

    Azuremyst Isle - 1 to 10
    Bloodmyrk Isle - 10 to 20

    Eversong Forest - 1 to 10
    Quel'thalas - 10 to 20
    Hellfire Peninsula - 58 to 62
    Zangarmarsh - 60 to 64
    Terokkar Forest - 61 to 65
    The Deadlands - 63 to 67
    Nagrand - 64 to 68
    Blade's Edge Mountains - 66 to 70
    Netherstorm - 67 to 70
    Shadowmoon Valley - 69 to 70

    - Northrend Set

    Borean Tundra - 67 to 70
    Howling Fjord - 67 to 70
    Dragonblight - 69 to 72
    Grizzly Hills - 70 to 73
    Crystalsong Forest - 72 to 75
    Zul'drak - 73 to 76
    Sholazar Basin - 75 to 79
    Storm Peaks - 76 to 80
    Icecrown Glacier - 78 to 80

    - Maelstrom Set

    Gilneas - 77 to 80
    Grim Batol - 78 to 81
    Kul Tiras - 79 to 82
    Kezan - 81 to 86
    Tel Abim - 83 to 85
    Zandalar - 84 to 87
    Plunder Isle - 86 to 88
    The Broken Isles - 87 to 90
    The Maelstrom - 89 to 90

    - Plane Set

    Pandaria - 1 to 10
    Hiji - 10 to 20

    Wolfenhold - 1 to 10
    Xorothian Plains - 10 to 20

    The Green Lands - 88 to 91
    The Dying Paradise - 91 to 94
    The Emerald Nightmare - 94 to 97
    The Eye of Ysera - 97 to 100

    Deephome - 88 to 91
    Skywall - 91 to 94
    The Abyssal Maw - 94 to 97
    The Firelands - 97 to 100

    - Legion Set

    K'aresh - 96 to 99
    Argus Meadowlands - 97 to 100
    Mac'Aree - 99 to 100
    Maw of Oblivion - 100+
    The Burning Citadel - 100+++
  1. Throrion's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Imamage View Post
    Oh look, the list that lots of people try and shoot down each time it's posted is correct again.... funny that. Copy/pasted from a 2008 forum post, you'll find older references to it if you dig hard enough. Accepted some bits have changed order and the "+" and "++" of path of the titans was scraped for cata expansion but still....

    Draenor Set

    Azuremyst Isle - 1 to 10
    Bloodmyrk Isle - 10 to 20

    Eversong Forest - 1 to 10
    Quel'thalas - 10 to 20
    Hellfire Peninsula - 58 to 62
    Zangarmarsh - 60 to 64
    Terokkar Forest - 61 to 65
    The Deadlands - 63 to 67
    Nagrand - 64 to 68
    Blade's Edge Mountains - 66 to 70
    Netherstorm - 67 to 70
    Shadowmoon Valley - 69 to 70

    - Northrend Set

    Borean Tundra - 67 to 70
    Howling Fjord - 67 to 70
    Dragonblight - 69 to 72
    Grizzly Hills - 70 to 73
    Crystalsong Forest - 72 to 75
    Zul'drak - 73 to 76
    Sholazar Basin - 75 to 79
    Storm Peaks - 76 to 80
    Icecrown Glacier - 78 to 80

    - Maelstrom Set

    Gilneas - 77 to 80
    Grim Batol - 78 to 81
    Kul Tiras - 79 to 82
    Kezan - 81 to 86
    Tel Abim - 83 to 85
    Zandalar - 84 to 87
    Plunder Isle - 86 to 88
    The Broken Isles - 87 to 90
    The Maelstrom - 89 to 90

    - Plane Set

    Pandaria - 1 to 10
    Hiji - 10 to 20

    Wolfenhold - 1 to 10
    Xorothian Plains - 10 to 20

    The Green Lands - 88 to 91
    The Dying Paradise - 91 to 94
    The Emerald Nightmare - 94 to 97
    The Eye of Ysera - 97 to 100

    Deephome - 88 to 91
    Skywall - 91 to 94
    The Abyssal Maw - 94 to 97
    The Firelands - 97 to 100

    - Legion Set

    K'aresh - 96 to 99
    Argus Meadowlands - 97 to 100
    Mac'Aree - 99 to 100
    Maw of Oblivion - 100+
    The Burning Citadel - 100+++
    ... Except the reason it gets shot down over and over is because it's blatantly fake and the guy who posted it in the first place even admitted it himself.

    Read up on things before spreading misinformation and stop posting that list altogether, thanks.
  1. bohapjut's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Throrion View Post
    ... Except the reason it gets shot down over and over is because it's blatantly fake and the guy who posted it in the first place even admitted it himself.

    Read up on things before spreading misinformation and stop posting that list altogether, thanks.
    ...or did he just say ​it was fake because Blizzard's secret police broke in and forced him to?!?!?
  1. mmoc4fd64f6c8d's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by vertex705 View Post
    ...or did he just say ​it was fake because Blizzard's secret police broke in and forced him to?!?!?
    Well - as it happens, i'm the guy that leaked it originally - some other dude said it was fake.


    seewhatIdidthar?

    It's been largely accurate for the last 2 expansions and seems to have the next one corrrect too and you STILL want to bash it? Ok - enjoy that. Your choice of course.

    It's so fake it made scarilly accurate "guesses" 3 years in advance - clearly completely fake. The fact that most of us expected something naga/maelstrom related and we get the pandaran as this predicted despite all the "blizz can't do panda's as china won't like it" - clearly just someone clever working it out and making good guesses THREE YEARS IN ADVANCE. Totally fake, clearly.
  1. mmocef71e99c15's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Imamage View Post
    It's been largely accurate for the last 2 expansions and seems to have the next one corrrect too and you STILL want to bash it? Ok - enjoy that. Your choice of course.
    It's accurate for the two expansions ALREADY ANNOUNCED/RELEASED by Blizzard when the list appeared.
    It is amusingly inaccurate for Cata - the so called "maelstroem set is so far off the mark that any random octopus with a pair of dice could have predicted it better than "the List".

    So far "The List" has not managed to predict anything except things that were already known, but it has made a lot of remarkably inaccurate "predictions". Even Nostradamus did a lot better than that.
  1. bryroo's Avatar
    I wish Blizzard would drop all of their cloak and dagger policies and just be straight forward for once and stop with the mystery hype machine.

    I guess that doesn't sell Blizzcon tickets though.
  1. mmocef71e99c15's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Imamage View Post
    Well - as it happens, i'm the guy that leaked it originally - some other dude said it was fake.


    seewhatIdidthar?

    It's been largely accurate for the last 2 expansions and seems to have the next one corrrect too and you STILL want to bash it? Ok - enjoy that. Your choice of course.

    It's so fake it made scarilly accurate "guesses" 3 years in advance - clearly completely fake. The fact that most of us expected something naga/maelstrom related and we get the pandaran as this predicted despite all the "blizz can't do panda's as china won't like it" - clearly just someone clever working it out and making good guesses THREE YEARS IN ADVANCE. Totally fake, clearly.
    Anyone who didn't expect Pandaria to be part of an expansion at some future point was just clueless and unable to put obvious pieces together. A lot of people were already discussing the possibility of a Pandaria expansion a week before the MoP trademark popped up:

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/944214-Cataclysm-is-underway-but-what-comes-next-New-Potential-expansions-thread?p=12404326#post12404326

    P
    ersonally I was expecting Pandaria to be the feature of the xpac after the next (which I expected to be a South Seas one), not already the next one, but don't tell me a Pandaria expansion came out of the blue for everyone, because anyone able to put hints from Blizz together already knew it would probably happen at some point.

    ---------- Post added 2011-08-07 at 12:08 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by anyaka21 View Post
    actually, the "LORE" surrounding the list has never really been proven or disproven. Everything about it, at this point is pure speculation.

    Once Blizzard understood that the game would be big, they probably did develop a guideline for the future. That's just good business. And as thus something like them making "A LIST" is highly probable. However, it's the past. It's not cut in stone, it doesn't and they never did have to follow it as gospel truth either.

    So yeah, I'd imagine Blizz had a plan for the future of WoW, what expansions they had in mind and how they wanted to implement them. Still doesn't mean it's fake. Still doesn't mean it's true.

    Personally, I've always felt that there was a logical grain of truth to it, but as said, if they depart from it, doesn't mean the list was any less real or fake either.
    Except, the guy who first posted the list came forward (in the same topic he posted it) admitting that he was just messing around and explaining it was a hoax for lolz:

    http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21&mid=119012268058738816&h=50&p=3#145

    T
    his is like if Ron L. Hubbard had come out and admitted he was just trolling when he created the Church of Scientology and all he wanted to do was take everyone's money. Like with the list, die-hard believers would still claim it was true and completely ignore the eveidence against it.
  1. Nathanyel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by vertex705 View Post
    ...or did he just say ​it was fake because Blizzard's secret police broke in and forced him to?!?!?
    And they took two years to find him, and meanwhile allowed to have the list spread around the world after Sep 2007, which they had somehow successfully prevented in the four years before, leaving only vague memories in people's brains, so vague they couldn't repost them, but their subconscious preserved it, so they could instantly say "I've seen this in 2004!" when encountered with the list again.
    Also, Kalgan went back in time to alter the list to include two starter zones for WotLK, which had only one starter zone in the list of the original timeline, but after BC's launch had players clogging up Hellfire Peninsula, he had to do something about it. Whether he used the same time travel or another trip to remove Azjol-Nerub as a full zone, my sources didn't tell me.
    So, they did not continue to remove all mentions of the list after Sep 2007, but they did indeed "change their plans" for the expanions after WotLK, so that the newly created Cataclysm did not resemble the "Maelstrom set" too much, in an attempt to invalidate the list. The better half of the developers rebeled against that, though, so they had to be removed from WoW's team, exiled to Blizzard's own version of SkyNet, veiled as "Titan". What that meant for the quality of today's WoW, everyone knows.

    [Tinfoil-free version of the above]
  1. mmoc1f998e34da's Avatar
    Update: Recently on Sons of the Storm, Samwise posted new concept pieces featuring a new race of Panda men, the Pandyr. The Pandyr drop the East Asian flavor for a Norse theme, and if you think that Viking Pandas sounds awesome, it truly is: http://sonsofthestorm.com/viewer.php...ersonal&art=57 http://sonsofthestorm.com/viewer.php...ersonal&art=45 http://sonsofthestorm.com/viewer.php...ersonal&art=37 http://sonsofthestorm.com/viewer.php...ersonal&art=62 Now it's getting interesting. Pandyr for the Horde? Pandaren for the Alliance? Might just be
  1. Nathanyel's Avatar
    Could also be just personal art, as the URLs state "cat=personal". Even though Samwise is closely connected to Blizzard, his works are not to be taken as anything remotely canon by default. The "Pandyr", both as a name and race, sound like an amalgamate of the Pandaren and the Vrykul/Kvaldir, and could just be a personal idea, a mix of both races. Possibly with the knowledge that both Pandaren and Kvaldir will appear whatever MoP is, he went on to elaborate on this idea, creating some images.

    PS looking at the image IDs, they could be very old.
    PPS couldn't find dates on the sots pages, but the term "Pandyr" is as old as 2007: http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?ti...&oldid=1092000 (in reference to http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer...ersonal&art=28 )
  1. G l o w y r m's Avatar
    It's not an expansion. It's something else like a Cell Phone or some kind of handheld game. International Class 9 can be so many things. Here is a list of over 3000 of them.

    Class 009 Trademark Descriptions
  1. cmilla's Avatar
    WHHAAAAAA?! If we are going to get a fat cute animal race, i want TUSKARS! or walrus men, w/e they are called!
  1. kamikaze148's Avatar
    Ok. Im actually sold on this Pandyr idea...KICK ASS!!!.

    And they are seperate enough in looks and, well presumably lore to be feasible as a Horde race. And different enough to solve the PvP silhouette issue so frequently mentioned.

    Although i somewhat doubt that they will go with the Pandaren/Pandyr idea for each faction...its still insanely cool ^_^
  1. mmoc12f047576e's Avatar
    I already saw a lot of kitties being killed by this thread, stop bringing up the list about zones and levels, It is FAKE, F-A-K-E.
    The original poster admitted it was a fake, so stop using it.

    OT: I really like the idea that this is the next expansion, seeing the ideas some users have. The idea behind the Pandaren being a neutral race, and you choose which side you support while leveling your way up.
  1. Nathanyel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze148 View Post
    And they are seperate enough in looks
    The first picture Samwise did that used "Pandyr" (as far as I can follow them) had Pandas that still looked pretty much Asian-themed. It's just a variation of the name and later theme he came up with for personal paintings - years ago.
  1. kamikaze148's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    The first picture Samwise did that used "Pandyr" (as far as I can follow them) had Pandas that still looked pretty much Asian-themed. It's just a variation of the name and later theme he came up with for personal paintings - years ago.
    Well, give or take they are slightly different.

    All that you would need to do is make the Pandyr slightly taller, less round, more physically intimidating/rugged than the Pandaren and they would be able to be told apart.

    Again, dont think in a long shot this will EVER be implemented, but its cool all the same.
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