Firelands Raid Changes Incoming

Originally Posted by Zergal

Really not sure whats your point, please quote a post of anyone caring about normal mode nerfs in this thread.

maybe read mine

well i think this is good for guilds who are around 1-5/7 HC's.this nerf means content is gonna end soon and get your 391's before 4.3 and make a fair start with 6/7 or 7/7 guilds.and i am happy for this.we killed 1/7 hc 10m (started raiding 3 weeks ago) and we are so close to kill majordomo hc and lord hc but its like impossible to get at least half 391 gear until next patch on 10m.so with this nerf's at least we can have our 391 set ready for next content.but doesnt makes sense to nerf 4.2 hc's before 4.0 hc's

Originally Posted by tinu

@Barinthos, This game belonged to skilled and good players before the likes of you and your "give me pro lootz without doing shit" band wagon jumped on, keep teir gear in raids....all of it, stop the hand out of 3 bits from running shitty hc's and tbh, blizz made money with out you casual QQ'ing fags so tbh stfu and go play something else.

Congratulations on assuming I'm one of those people you appear to hate so much. It just goes to show that anyone that doesn't agree with your idiotic super hero hardcore elitist mind is a "casual" or "scrub" or QQer.

Originally Posted by d3sign8t3dDruNk

Scrubs don't need to see the content. You wonder why people quit Blizz? This is why. Stop nerfing shit into the ground so terrible players can kill shit. Firelands isn't hard if your not a moron. Casuals who complain about the content being hard, need to just go in a corner and die. GTFO out of our game. You belong playing mario kart!

The number of people who quit the game because they're narcissistic assholes who don't think anyone else should be allowed to complete the content that they do is dwarfed to insignificance by the number of people who stay because they aren't so mentally damaged that they use a video game as a tool for measuring their value as a human being.

I don't really understand why they're going to nerf hardmodes? They didn't nerf heroic T11 content.

I think this is a pretty good change and shows that 4.3 isnt far off. If it becomes a problem im sure it will get addressed by the devs or changed. Also not gonna get involved with this QQ fest. It gonna be crazy. -.- (All complaints on the issue are the same as they always are in this given situation. Just like the T11 nerf. Not ruining my gaming experiance dont care.) For those who care, get in there and beat rag up before the hotfix! GL.

Originally Posted by d3sign8t3dDruNk

Scrubs don't need to see the content. You wonder why people quit Blizz? This is why. Stop nerfing shit into the ground so terrible players can kill shit. Firelands isn't hard if your not a moron. Casuals who complain about the content being hard, need to just go in a corner and die. GTFO out of our game. You belong playing mario kart!

LMAO!

Not only does WoW not "belong" to any one person, it certainly doesn't belong to self-entitled freaks like you who apparently need this game to justify why they are still breathing.

Nearly all the raid guilds who actually stood a chance at downing H Rag have done it. Only tryhards are mad, because they don't like being reminded that their best wasn't good enough.

Originally Posted by Barinthos

Congratulations on assuming I'm one of those people you appear to hate so much. It just goes to show that anyone that doesn't agree with your idiotic super hero hardcore elitist mind is a "casual" or "scrub" or QQer.

Cheers bro, i can tell you agree

If you were farming the content prior, this won't have any impact on you. Prime example of people bitching just to bitch.

Imo it's a sign of desperation to get players into Firelands since they're realizing that the "difficulty" is a bit over the head of most players. This has been one of the least received raid tiers in quite some time. It's easier and probably a better option as a business to reduce the difficulty on content the hardcores are already destroying and will continue to do so whether you nerf it 20% or buff it 20%, than it is to not have people see your content at all.

I don't blame Blizzard so much and it's not their fault their playerbase are a bunch of unskilled whiners but they have to do what's in their best interest as a business. People will threaten to quit just to throw a temper tantrum like a child regardless of their decision.

Leave it hard, players QQ and quit. Make it easy, the hardcore players QQ and threaten to quit.

Originally Posted by raintrees

man...people acting like downing a super hard boss justifies their self worth. chill the eff out.

Why do you think it justifies someone self worth? It's more what makes this game fun, it's what makes any game fun really, challenges, it's fun to do something thats somewhat hard. It's what makes any game just that much better really.

Originally Posted by Bizarro55

Talking to Blizz huh? You know what the odds of getting a blue answer is on MMO-Champ?

Probably 0, but the odds of a Blizz employee reading it is what he would be after and that's not as low as you would think, this is after all the biggest fan site for the game.

Good decision. Carry on Blizz!

Originally Posted by Seezer

There are just as many d-bag whiners out there. And it doesn't BELONG to them either.

That's exactly my point Seezer. It doesn't BELONG to anyone except Blizzard. THEY decide what to do. Don't like it? Stop playing. It's that simple. And yet everyone that thinks because they can make a pixel filled bad man/dragon/beast/thing empty out his HP bar and other can't, they think they're better than others and determine the course of the game?

All the whiners aren't any better. And no, i'm not a whiner. I'm a realist. My opinion can't change what Blizzard ultimately decides to do with their game. So i just sit back, and let the WoW-car take me where it's going.

i am SO happy that the type of people that are so angry right now....are angry, just for having that dumbass mentality they deserve to feel shit on.

Well, I guess Heroic Rag isn't gonna feel super epic after all

This in no-way fair to raiders in general too... My guild lost a main tank n healer due to the game being too boring to them now, because we cleared 7/7 on mains in 2 hours, and in 3 hours on alts. We did some hcs but due to these people leaving we can't really do them now, These nerfs won't bring them back. It's even more of a reason for them not to return and for more of us to quit

Originally Posted by tinu

and your progression ?

Uh 6/7 heroic? your point? Am I bothered by this at all? Sure aint bud.

Wonder if this will push firelands raiding this week?

There are about 1300 guilds at 6/7 heroic according to WoWProgress. 1300 guilds. I'd say that covers the majority of the "good" guilds, no? All these guilds are obviously stuck on Ragnaros. Are nerfs to the other 6 bosses affecting these people at all? Doubt it, it'll make it quicker so they can get to Ragnaros faster for more attempts. Then it sort of spirals down to guilds with progress between 5 and 3 out of 7 on heroic. Sure, maybe it sucks for these guilds who are on the verge of kills, but, honestly, were they going to make it 7/7h anyway? I doubt that, at least not until t13 was out, which would have nerfed it in terms of gear regardless. It shouldn't be such a huge outcry!

Now, granted, I think a 20% global nerf to the heroics is over the top, but 10% or so wouldn't really be so crazy, would it? Honestly, it just seems that the people who would have gotten the stuff cleared pre-nerf, have. Or should have. It's been over two months now, is it really that fun to work on one boss for that long? Yes, the final kill feels great, but it also is a pretty good burn-out. :/

Originally Posted by tinu

@Barinthos, This game belonged to skilled and good players before the likes of you and your "give me pro lootz without doing shit" band wagon jumped on, keep teir gear in raids....all of it, stop the hand out of 3 bits from running shitty hc's and tbh, blizz made money with out you casual QQ'ing fags so tbh stfu and go play something else.

Lol didn't they ever teach you at school not to put people down. Anyways if you were as skilled as you're claiming to be you'd already be done with the content and would be welcoming these changes to make farming content less tenuous.