WoW Down to 10.3M Subscribers, PTR Build 14966, Class Balance Q&A, TCG Art

Well WoW *could* end early, though I honestly doubt that. No real worries for Blizzard though. They should just take my money now for HotS and D3. I'm bored as fuck and there is little on the horizon that seems interesting to me. About the only other game I know of coming out that seems like it could be fun is Skyrim. I also feel so much better lawls from venting, fuck WoW is a fun game but I should not have to bend over backwards to have fun.

Originally Posted by fateswarm

On lost numbers, very frankly, we're at a global financial crisis, they have to drop the price. Here in EU we give almost 16 dollars. That's what most people pay to have a full communication service like 24/7 internet.

Well, here in France it's more like 41,5$ for 24/7 internet so :/

MoP will focus on the 12-20 year old players. Average age of WoW players is 28. So there is a 10 years younger bracket they have not fully monetized.

they say it was in china, i call it bs. imo and i say IMO (may be wrong) the losses were from other countries except china, and blizz made all the one year payment diablo/beta MOP thing cause they already had these results in, and they knew they are gonna get f*** in the money department if they dont do smthin about it even if its just a litle loss, because lets face it they just cant aford to lose that one dollar, i mean who would pay for their new car they just bought this week? i sinceraly hope blizz shapes up and actualy puts smthin into wow worthwhile that most of the population can enjoy for long periods of time else more and more people are gonna keep quiting.

Originally Posted by 420rogue

really? cause my internet is 49.99 USD a month and that is internet alone.

yes, basic net is pretty cheap, even cheaper with packs with TV/Telephony/Net in one package.

My provider rates:

Cable;
10EUR = 1024/512 Kbit/s
15EUR = 6/1 Mbit/s
20EUR = 13/1.5 Mbit/s
30EUR = 20/2 Mbit/s
40EUR = 28/2.5 Mbit/s
50EUR = 50/5 Mbit/s
60EUR = 120/10 Mbit/s

Optics;
20/20 Mbit/s= 30EUR
50/50 Mbit/s = 40EUR
100/100 Mbit/s = 50EUR

Packs;
150+ TV channels
50/5 Mbit/s
5 Telephone numbers
Free calls in most local networks
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65EUR

After the announcement of MoP, I want nothing more than WoW to burn to the ground. I welcome these numbers.

Though I want Blizzard to survive, 'cause Diablo looks awesome... at least until they release the xpac for it in a couple years adding a new panda/kitten/other bullshit childish animal class that doesn't kill demons (because killing is wrong), but turns them into stuffed animals, and instead of looting gold (GREED IS WRONG) all recently teddy-bearified demons will drop candy as the new currency.

anyone noticed their account got frozen and didn't take payments after they opted in for the year contract?

At least 2 new major releases next year. So Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2: HTS. Mists in 2013 or late 2012? So we possibly have another 9-12 months of killing Deathwing. I'm going to be a sad panda

Originally Posted by Rageissues

After the announcement of MoP, I want nothing more than WoW to burn to the ground. I welcome these numbers.

Though I want Blizzard to survive, 'cause Diablo looks awesome... at least until they release the xpac for it in a couple years adding a new panda/kitten/other bullshit childish animal class that doesn't kill demons (because killing is wrong), but turns them into stuffed animals, and instead of looting gold (GREED IS WRONG) all recently teddy-bearified demons will drop candy as the new currency.

Your reasoning is super cool, cause everyone knows Panda bears are held as pets by the majority of people. They are not really bears, they are more like plush animals you buy in a store. Or maybe it is, that they are one of the most ferocious bears to walk this planets surface, right next to polar bears.

But lets ignore the fact, and enjoy the game with so ferocious gnome warriors who tank dragons 100 times the size of themselves. They are acceptable tho, cause they have pink pig tails - I see now.

Awww that sucks

Originally Posted by Rageissues

After the announcement of MoP, I want nothing more than WoW to burn to the ground. I welcome these numbers.

Though I want Blizzard to survive, 'cause Diablo looks awesome... at least until they release the xpac for it in a couple years adding a new panda/kitten/other bullshit childish animal class that doesn't kill demons (because killing is wrong), but turns them into stuffed animals, and instead of looting gold (GREED IS WRONG) all recently teddy-bearified demons will drop candy as the new currency.

I'm glad too see you doing the adult thing and throw a temper tantrume on ze webz followed petty vengance because you didnt get exactlly what you wanted. You know, you being so grown up and all.

Still no moonkin changes.. wow.

You people who want WoW to die are sick and shouldnt be browsing this website, you bring nothing but hate, on a lighter note im looking forward to MOP. Also yes WoW will continue to lose subs, its past its peak but it will survive and still reign as MMO king for years to come.

Not surprised by the subscriber loss. You've got Cataclysm which was too much of a leap in difficulty from WotLK, the world economy is deep in the bucket... It's not just a bunch of people who ragequit.

Originally Posted by Byrthor

At least 2 new major releases next year. So Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2: HTS. Mists in 2013 or late 2012? So we possibly have another 9-12 months of killing Deathwing. I'm going to be a sad panda

More likely D3 and MoP next year. SC2 expac will be pushed because it doesn't have any sustained revenue built into it. It's only profit on units moved. If WoW has a prayer MoP has to be next year and no later than July.

Fail Blizzard lol. Funny to see suck a drop when 4.3 isn't even over. Half my guild is quitting after we've killed Deathwing.

The Replica armor change made me think of something I'd totally forgotten about: Does the item's required level afftect transmogrification? I was totally looking forward to my level 1 bank alt finally running around in a full set of soulforge gear...but if the level req. kills it, I'll be sad :-(I know the level req. was added because of twinks...had they released them as they were, twinking would've gotten ridiculous. I have nothing against this change, unless it affects transmogrification!

Originally Posted by chaud

Large graph

Just saying. WoW's not in that bad of a state.

Very nice graph kuddos

Originally Posted by Roose

cheers!

Are there really that many investors on this site? Why do people care so much unless it affects their money?

I am one of those investors. I do find it funny how people think 10.3 million people playing wow (and remember, they ONLY count those subscriptions with creditcards as active) as 'WoW is dying'. That is still well over 10 times as many people that have an active subscription on Rift and more than all the other Pay2Play mmo's out there combined, currently.