Valor Points Changes to 4.3 PTR, 4.3 BG Conquest Rewards

nice , we will only need to go for pre-mades normal bgs now , instead of rateds and win everything

Conquest change is great. There's only a handful of rated BG teams out there, they're all decked out, and Arenas blow. Finally I can get a reliable source of Conquest points without needing to convince nine other people to join me or having to step into *gag* Arena.

Why on earth should you be able to get conquest points without doing any arenas or RBG's at all? I tought the whole point of conquest points were to reward you for doing arenas and RBG's. Guess this just means you can use a battleground bot to get full conquest gear now too. Three cheers for more bots in battlegrounds!

Conquest change is the last straw for me.

Originally Posted by rektlol

Conquest change is the last straw for me.

well, bye

I love this change. Now I can get Conquest without having to depend on an Arena partner/team or RBG team. yay

This is the death of 2v2 (there's even an easier way to earn CP + no rewards at high ratings) as well as lower-mid tier RBGs. I know they're trying to help "casuals" but they are destroying a large portion of this exact audience. How is the game going to be fun when you can't find an RBG group that suits your level of skill, or need to be completely dedicated to 3v3 or 5v5 to enjoy competitive PvP?

100CP per day is fine. Unlimited CP from winning random BGs is not.

I dig the conquest change, Blizzard is finally starting to understand that this is a game they are running, not an olympic competition.

this is awesome,hate relying on people for my cap

Originally Posted by casserole

100CP per day is fine. Unlimited CP from winning random BGs is not.

It's the same system as with random dungeons, if you want all your weekly cap in one day, you can, but with slower rate. And btw what's the difference when you get your conquest with random or with 2v2 unbalanced arena matches?!?

Originally Posted by rabbimojo

Easier to schedule, which makes it easier to get more attempts in overall? :P Less stress on the raid leader to coordinate the individuals, making it easier to cope with the demands of repeated wiping on a high-difficulty encounter?

Just food for thought.

I know about this already. Just curious if it was the opinion of 10-man guilds that this is the ONLY reason that 25-mans go 10-mans, with nothing else at all. Also, if you want less organization, why are there guilds running 2-3 10-mans instead of 25-mans for H Rag and stuff?

Love the changes personally.Those whinging about the death of 2v2, have you not noticed Blizzard moving focusing away from it for a long time now?

Originally Posted by Tenethon

Love the changes personally.Those whinging about the death of 2v2, have you not noticed Blizzard moving focusing away from it for a long time now?

At the beginning I was also pissed at that change. I play R-BG, 2vs2 and 3vs3. But then I thought, having to go through random bgs is a BIG pain.. huge.. ok, I can go if I need some points or nobody has time to play or I don't have time on play day. But is not that bad.. just think about all the pain in random bgs and you are fine

bullshit, first they make us go rbg to get our last points to reach a cap and now every bot in a bg can get a fucking full new pvp tier by just running it on a daily basis. blizzard, you are retarded!

Awesome I can get Conquest Points now without RBG or Arenas. I hate elitism.

Originally Posted by Heppu

Why on earth should you be able to get conquest points without doing any arenas or RBG's at all? I tought the whole point of conquest points were to reward you for doing arenas and RBG's. Guess this just means you can use a battleground bot to get full conquest gear now too. Three cheers for more bots in battlegrounds!

this... COMPLETELY THIS@!

Originally Posted by greyghost

Incomming 25-man raider "I DESERVE MORE THAN 10-MAN RAIDERS" crying.

But yeah. If they really want to slow down the aquisition rate of items-through-Valor points, they'd reduce the weekly cap. Reducing the amount of points per boss kill just forces raiders to use the random LFG tool.

It's almost like the Conquest and Valor changes contradict each other. Allowing PvPers more options to get their Conquest, then making PvE raiders have to do LFG dungeons over and over to cap if they aren't able to progress through a raid completely in a single lockout.

I agree, the general theme though is to force all of the players to utilize the random group tools, be they for pve and pvp. I strongly disagree with this sort of movement. Adding in convenience is fine, forcing people to use that tool is an entirely different matter. The real life equivalent is for the government to add in a network of busses that literally service everywhere in the country, and then ban the usage of cars on freeways and highways. Now individuals have lost the option to travel at their own pace and are forced to share a ride with a bunch of strangers which most of the time they would have rather not of met. Not to mention wait for the service to actually service them and to have to accommodate by the luggage rules of the bus.

Originally Posted by SirTrollingsworth

So sad how blizz keeps killing 25 man raids. People already run the 10 mans cause they are easier.

all those who are whining about 25 vs 10 man raids

you know ... you cannot buy set items with VP anymore

25 raids still get 3 T-Tokens vs 1 in 10, so its still a bit more

Originally Posted by Heppu

Why on earth should you be able to get conquest points without doing any arenas or RBG's at all? I tought the whole point of conquest points were to reward you for doing arenas and RBG's. Guess this just means you can use a battleground bot to get full conquest gear now too. Three cheers for more bots in battlegrounds!

People like you make me curious. If you Pvp for reward, shouldnt the motivation be to be competitive?

Easier gear closes the gear gap. Less gear gap means a more even playing field. The more gear is normalized, the more skill is enforced (within comp).

If you only Pvp for the shiny gear, you can do that. If you enjoy Pvp to prove you are better than others based on skill, this should be welcome.

who cares if Pvp gear is easier to obtain, both casuals and hardcore benefit from this directly.
The only people who this hurts are the wannabes. You know, the people who claim to love pvp for the challenge, but whine when challenge can occur.

You know, cuz anyone at a respectable level of pvp will have this gear anyways, right?

It mostly helps alts

Originally Posted by rektlol

Conquest change is the last straw for me.

Funny, my account is currently frozen, but I'm thinking of reactivating JUST because of the BG conquest change. I like doing BG's, I hate arena, and it takes too long to get rated-BG teams formed. Awesome change.

Just remove honor ... Rly there is no need anymore for honor.